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post #81 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:08pm
Downloaded iTunes 10 and encountered an issue with the installer. Now Apple's website has iTunes 9 only available for download again. I think someone is in trouble at Apple.
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post #82 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:11pm
The interface does seem a lot more color-less. I also noticed the artwork in Album List view is a lot smaller than before.
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post #83 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:11pm
I just had the same thing happen to me.

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Originally Posted by jabohn View Post

I just checked and it said 10 was available for download. I clicked download and it was downloading 9. Then I reloaded the download page and it went to saying 10 was coming soon. Reloaded a minute later and now I'm downloading 10!
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post #84 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:15pm
So, should one update to iTunes 10 or just stick to 9.2.1?

iMac mid 2011 • 27 in • 3,4 GHz Core i7 • 32 GB RAM • AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB VRAM

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iMac mid 2011 • 27 in • 3,4 GHz Core i7 • 32 GB RAM • AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB VRAM

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post #85 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:16pm
I refreshed twice more and now I've installed 10 and everything seems fine.
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post #86 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by bdkennedy1 View Post

I refreshed twice more and now I've installed 10 and everything seems fine.

Yep just hit refresh a few times, seems to default to 9, but a few refreshes shows the 10 download.

Thanks.
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post #87 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:22pm
does anyone know if the 16mb video ram requirement is real?
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post #88 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:23pm
Just got it downloaded and its running. No bugs so far except there is still no 64-bit version on Mac OS. With exceptionally large libraries (such as with stock sound effects libraries in addition to video and music, and piles of PDF as ebooks) it gets sluggish as 32-bit and i was hoping 64-bit would give it a bit of a boost due to the additional registers that offers. But apparently still no 64-bit mac version of iTunes.
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post #89 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:39pm
Anyone know how to enable ping? I don't see it in the sidebar in 10.0
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post #90 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by gcarswell View Post

Anyone know how to enable ping? I don't see it in the sidebar in 10.0

Nevermind, it's under the STORE in the sidebar when you login to itunes
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post #91 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:51pm
... and using ping. Does anyone else feel like its Just a public "History" page? Meaning your profile is just a history of what you have downloaded or rated on iTunes, with the option to follow your favorite artists. Am I missing something here?
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post #92 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:53pm
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Originally Posted by jabohn View Post

The interface does seem a lot more color-less. I also noticed the artwork in Album List view is a lot smaller than before.

You can resize the Album artwork with the little slider at the top of the page, right hand side. Also, if you have album artwork being displayed in the left hand bottom corner try clicking on it while its playing. It now has play options!
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post #93 of 106
9/1/10 at 7:57pm
Did anyone ever notice that after iTunes 9 was released, when you pause your music then skip to the next song, the song/artist/album go blank?

I used to like to pause my music and have it on shuffle, then skip through until I found a song that I liked, then press play. Since iTunes 9, I've had to have the music playing while skipping through songs, resulting in me hearing the first split second of every song.

A small thing, but one of those things I had gotten used to ever since early versions of iTunes.
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post #94 of 106
9/1/10 at 8:58pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Ping.... Bing... Really?

It's good to see that Apple is finally adopting a few of the ZUNE Marketplace's social networking features,

this was a major feature on lala.com. probably one of the main reasons Apple bought them.

and it's one peeve I have. I had several follows and followers on lala but I don't know their facebook etc to find them again. it would have been great if I could put in my old lala.com info and be linked together. so if they start up Ping we'd connect again.

as for those saying 'they should have gone with twitter' give them time. Remember they can't just put in the links without the other side agreeing to it. give it a month or so and we'll have itunes 10.1 'now with twitter too'
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post #95 of 106
9/1/10 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by azjay View Post

... and using ping. Does anyone else feel like its Just a public "History" page? Meaning your profile is just a history of what you have downloaded or rated on iTunes, with the option to follow your favorite artists. Am I missing something here?

Actually, it will be really cool to see what everyone's listening to. The artist pages seem pretty cool. It's another way to interact with them. If you ask me, this replaces myspace/twitter for artists. It will also lead to more music downloads.
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post #96 of 106
9/1/10 at 9:54pm
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...is iTunes 10 on OS X 10.6 64 bit yet?

Nope \
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post #97 of 106
9/1/10 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by mercivic View Post

The artist pages seem pretty cool. It's another way to interact with them.

All 12 of them?

Am I missing the list of artists with Ping pages? All I see are the same recommended artists, over and over again
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post #98 of 106
9/2/10 at 12:51am
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Ping.... Bing... Really?

It's good to see that Apple is finally adopting a few of the ZUNE Marketplace's social networking features, though admittedly, iTunes is looking in serious need of an aesthetic makeover, especially when compared to the elegance of MS' Zune Marketplace.

Actually, when you look at some of the announcements, it almost seems like Apple is a bit afraid of MS and Windows Phone 7, or at least concerned about WP7.

Today, Apple announces Ping, which as you point out is very similar to the Zune social networking that was present in 2006.

Today, Apple announces Game Center, which seems to be very similar to Xbox Live which has been around for several years.

MS is shelling out a lot of money to promote the WP7, and both the Zune and Xbox Live integration are major selling points.

You gotta wonder.
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post #99 of 106
9/2/10 at 1:07am
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Originally Posted by mercivic View Post

Actually, it will be really cool to see what everyone's listening to. The artist pages seem pretty cool. It's another way to interact with them. If you ask me, this replaces myspace/twitter for artists. It will also lead to more music downloads.

might want to give it more than 24 hours to call it a twitter replacement
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post #100 of 106
9/2/10 at 2:36am
Ping is absolute crap! One can only select profiling music from one's Library if it has been purchased via iTunes. I have 1000's of CD's burned to a HDD using Apple Lossless and about 30 tracks purchased from iTunes store. Ping profiles my music taste based on these 30 or so purchased tracks only! How can this limitation possibly reflect my taste in music, artists and culture?

Many of the bands which help to nail my musical tastes aren't even available on iTunes!

Ping's parsing recommendations and networking is thus rendered absolutely useless.

So, that's Genius and Ping which are complete failures. The Genius algorithm always produces the most absurd selections. I had hoped 10 would improve this shortcoming but it obviously hasn't been tweaked.

iTunes is Bloatware in the worst tradition of Microsoft apps and Steve Jobs should be thoroughly ashamed of the way in which this core app is developing into a hideous 32Bit monster on tortoise legs.

I can't believe just how awful iTunes has become.
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post #101 of 106
9/2/10 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by Bloodshotrollin'red View Post

Ping is absolute crap! One can only select profiling music from one's Library if it has been purchased via iTunes.

Not true. You can manually select any music that's available on iTunes, not just what you've purchased. Have you tagged your music properly?

Of course this doesn't help when the artist isn't available. Fortunately, even my most obscure favorites are. The one I was looking for that isn't is a band called "Balloon" from 1990.
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post #102 of 106
9/2/10 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by DocNo42 View Post

All 12 of them?

Am I missing the list of artists with Ping pages? All I see are the same recommended artists, over and over again

Actually, there are really very few artists with pages so far. Fewer than 12.

To see a list of all of them, I typed "" (null between double quotes) into the search field and clicked "show artists". There are currently 10.
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post #103 of 106
9/2/10 at 10:57am
Here's the entire pathetic list of artists on Ping:

Yo-Yo Ma
Dave Matthews Band
Coldplay
The New Pornographers
Lucy Schwartz
Jack Johnson
Katy Perry
Lady Gaga
Muse
Mark Ronson

It's almost as if these 10 artists were hand-picked by Steve.
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post #104 of 106
9/3/10 at 1:16am
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

Not true. You can manually select any music that's available on iTunes, not just what you've purchased. Have you tagged your music properly?

Of course this doesn't help when the artist isn't available. Fortunately, even my most obscure favorites are. The one I was looking for that isn't is a band called "Balloon" from 1990.

That's not true either. e.g. I have 25 different recordings of works by Mahler, one of those I bought from the iTunes store, when I selected to manually choose Mahler as a favourite I was only allowed to select from the selection of Mahler works available on the iTunes store. This was true for every artist where I wanted to either select a different track as a favourite work by them (if not purchasable from the iTunes store it is not available as a choice) or if they didn't have any work on iTunes at all. I couldn't add them to my favourites.

The choices of recommended artists I would be interested came back as:

Coldplay
Yo-Yo Ma
Lady Gaga
Katy Perry
Jack Johnson
and other such talentless people.

I wouldn't tolerate any one of them in my music collection.
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post #105 of 106
9/3/10 at 5:02am
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Originally Posted by Bloodshotrollin'red View Post

That's not true either. e.g. I have 25 different recordings of works by Mahler, one of those I bought from the iTunes store, when I selected to manually choose Mahler as a favourite I was only allowed to select from the selection of Mahler works available on the iTunes store. This was true for every artist where I wanted to either select a different track as a favourite work by them (if not purchasable from the iTunes store it is not available as a choice) or if they didn't have any work on iTunes at all. I couldn't add them to my favourites.

The choices of recommended artists I would be interested came back as:

Coldplay
Yo-Yo Ma
Lady Gaga
Katy Perry
Jack Johnson
and other such talentless people.

I wouldn't tolerate any one of them in my music collection.

One skilled in reading comprehension, you're not.

Again:

-->You can manually select any music that's available on iTunes, not just what you've purchased.<--

I didn't say you could select music that's not on iTunes.

And talent is relative. It may not be music that you like, but who do you know that plays cello as well as Yo-Yo Ma?

I assume you've got a band, right? What's the iTunes link?

And not being a dick is apparently a talent you haven't yet mastered.
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post #106 of 106
9/3/10 at 12:28pm
Got iTunes 10. It's okay. The gray, muted icons are blah. I really hate how they've stacked the traffic light buttons, they should be in the same position on every window. Terrible UI design. I like the new way lists with album covers are organized.

PING is absolute crap. There are less than a dozen artists you can actually follow, and the comments are overflowing with spam posts from 3 different users. I can't believe Apple would release something that seems like it should still be in development.
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