Apple reveals new cloud-centric Apple TV - Page 3

So, nothing really changes as far as the box is concerned--other than storage which was stupid anyway. I'm buying one, at last. 99 cent TV shows will be cool once more studios sign up, but, I can't drop my cable company just yet.

[QUOTE=pmz;1705556]I have FIOS cable and never use it.

1. There's nothing on TV worth watching (except maybe 3 shows which are explicitly comedy, and do not attempt to shape people's thoughts with lying subtext)

2. I never watch shows when they're first aired (almost never. i have a life, a wife, a kid, and job. Who the hell has time to catch primetime programming?)

3. I would never pay monthly for a DVR box. (don't care how much or how cheap, i wouldn't do it. neither would millions of others)

OUSTANDING POINTS!!!! We don't have cable in our house, won't ever pay for it (or a dish) when we have NO TIME TO WATCH IT. We have (don't laugh) a DVD recorder that works just fine, and use Netflix and Hulu heavily. Not to mention the networks OWN websites that stream video that might not be 1080P all the time, but looks just fine on my 55" LG LCD.

This new AppleTV plays exactly to the crowd that Apple has had such a huge success with over the past few years--the average consumer. Win the "consumer market" and you will be RICH.

This makes my decision to purhcase a 2nd xBox 360 for netflix on my other TV or buying the slightly cheaper AppleTV that much more difficult.

Thats what I was hoping for too, but no new iOS and really not that great "at least with the old model you can do just about all the same things plus if you download Atv Flash you are able to put other movies from outside your iTunes account "as some of us have other movies" as well as stream them from your computer or also add an extra drive as well .........I was really wanting more to come from this as others were as well ...I may just buy another older model to put in my guest room...as I waited to see this one but im kind of dissapointed....But the other products were great just seems as if they still arent ready to take this thing seriously, could be why they also added a HDMI plug to the new mac minis...Gheezzz thats why I brought one of those..."because as SJ said no one wants a computer in there living room connected to the tv.....ohhhh boy well just look at the sales of the new mac minis hummmm I think some of us do...

People without cable are a tiny niche market. Apple does not serve tiny niche markets. Not anymore.

They aim straight for Mr. Average, but they are even more acute: They want Mr. Average who has extra bucks to spend, wants convenience, and is not inclined to check out cheaper or higher quality alternatives.

You are not the type of person Apple counts as a potential customer.

By people you mean the privledged few who know how to do it and want to spend the time doing it. It's not easy.........so generic comments like yours don't mean much. And the fact that you use WDTV puts you in an even smaller user group.

Just pre ordered mine. Planning to use it mainly for netflix and photos.

If you're having a problems pre ordering through the website, just use the apple store app. I pre ordered with no problems.

Any thoughts on whether any of this new stuff will be a SW upgrade to the hard-drive based AppleTV? In particular, Netflix integration would be nice.

How well does it integrate with iTunes content?


If it can stream from my computer, why would I need redundant storage at the TV?

Apple customers want convenience. Simplicity. Cache and style.

You are talking to the wrong audience.

It's perfect!

I'm a single father of a special needs boy and younger daughter; I don't get to go shopping for movies much, nor to Lackluster (er... Blockbuster). But during the day at work I hear about episodes I "have to watch" though I can't afford the extended cable services (like a box or premium channels).

The aTV gives me quick access to iTunes, NetFlix, web content and stuff I put on my MacBook.

For one low price.

Oh it's easy, trust me. It can be as simple as a few clicks or you can do long manual processes where you have more control. All depends on what you want.

Makemkv, available on windows, mac, linux, is a one stop program. Pop in disc, it will scan, present you with some file options, check what you want, click make mkv. It spits out a movie file. Done.

I do remember the same being said of Android when it was first announced... Hell, I even said the same thing when I saw the first builds of Android.

If the Revue is as simple as plugging it in-line between your TV and cable/satellite box, I'm willing to give it a chance to see how it'll perform.


Of course the media renting/buying will be where they'll make their money. I was thinking of more of just the option of letting me watch live TV through the device so I can:

1. Seamlessly switch between content without having to change the TV input
2. Not view the awful interface my cable box uses

Ripping Blu-Ray is incredibly easy now. I bought an ASUS Blu-Ray drive for $150 at Amazon and followed these instructions using free software:

http://www.macworld.com/article/1457...y_ripping.html

I wish it were also a router so I could buy it instead of an Airport Express. Still, at $99, this has me seriously thinking about dumping cable and getting a netflix account. How many movies a month could I watch via this box for an $8.99 a month Netflix plan? How good are the movies Netflix has available for streaming? The free movies that Comcast has on demand usually suck. They have hundreds available, but it's hard to find one worth watching.

Spot on.......

1/2 the networks i record now with my DVR are broadcast in 720p. i'd rather see a focus on better content at 720p than shitty content at 1080.

I won't buy this for one reason. No 1080p.
Even if Apple doesn't provide content over 720p, Netflix does.
This version is worse than the last IMO.

not what i expected, but also not bad at all...i think this could be the foundation for something that can grow into the main living room device...

just add some hulu, maybe apps, and games (they would have to make a controller first of course), and other companies will be shaking....

Seems to me that some of the millions who would never pay monthly for a DVR box may have issues with paying for broadband service as well. I'm not saying that's the case with you, but I'd bet that's the reasoning behind why some of those "millions" don't have DVR boxes.

BTW, for someone with so little time on his hands, you'd think a DVR would be the ideal thing for you. Then you could watch what you wanted to watch when you wanted to watch it (after it's been initially recorded that is).

Your prior purchases do not make new profits for Apple.

And then not be able to watch any live broadcasting on traditional "cable" channels? No sports channels, CNN, etc? If all you're interested is pre-recorded broadcasts, and from a more limited number of networks, go for it. Much too limiting for me.

Hey genius, did you miss the part where I said 'the direction things are moving in'?

Never.
What does the price in the UK have to do with the price in the US?
They are not exported from the US to the UK at US prices.

It makes sense because not everyone pays $130/month to their cable companies (or even has cable/satellite). It's ridiculous the amount of "fluff" channels I pay for to get the few channels I want. There's one network that I pay $10/mo for because it has one single series that I like. I never watch movies or other series on it. I could instantly save $6/mo by canceling it and renting from iTunes for $4/mo.

For anyone who doesn't A) watch large numbers of series/movies per month and B) don't watch the same shows over and over and over again, it's cheaper. Purchases can still be done in iTunes and then streamed to the device if you want to buy (my biggest complaint about ATV itself).

And despite the 720P source video, the upscaling (in my current ATV) is phenomenal. It looks great/almost indistinguishable compared to "true 1080P" content on my 56" 1080P TV.

HDMI is probably a requirement from the networks, so they can ensure HDCP lockdown on their content....

My WDTV Live streams just fine from my Mac using a program called Playback.

Exactly what I did, except I have an EyeTV tuner plugged into my Mac using over-the-air HD signals for some content (i.e. completely free to me now). For those shows that aren't broadcast OTA, I buy them from iTunes or Hulu.

The thing I don't get is how many people want to keep watching old episodes of TV shows. Once I am done, I am unlikely to go back and watch them again. Of all the shows I've purchased, I don't think I have rewatched a single one. Thus, for me, the $0.99 rental model is fantastic, especially since they are in HD. For the HD version, the rental price is less than 1/3 of the purchase price. I could rent it three times and still come out less, but I can't fathom actually watching any of them three time.

I wasn't being hostile. I was just pointing out a simple fact that everyone seems to miss.

I can understand that people may want one device to rule them all, but bashing something for what it's not or ever intended to be is in fact whining. However, the "whining" comment wasn't directed at you, it was directed at all the posts. These comments and the attitude in general are the exact same as when the original AppleTV came out. It doesn't do this, it doesn't do that, it can't do whatever, it's useless, blah, blah, blah. "It's going to FAIL because it's not what I want or need." Makes me think people are just spoiled and have some unjustified sense of entitlement. If you don't like it, don't buy it! Who really cares one way or another?

Personally, looks like a great little device and I can definitely see how it could be useful to some people. I doubt I'll ever buy one as I don't own a TV anymore.

Not really, the Mac prices are still way worse. The US price doesn't include tax so you deduct VAT from the UK price i.e 99 / 1.175 = £84 -> exchange rate = $130. So we get screwed by $30. On the new Mac Mini it's $155. The ATV should be around £75 but £99 is a fair price that people would be willing to pay.

The biggest aspect of these developments for me is instant streaming to the desktop. I don't like using a torrent for a TV show and waiting to download and really a couple of quid a day isn't going to break the bank. Plus, Apple will maintain a far larger selection of old shows.

I prefer the pay as you watch model rather than pay first to start watching because some shows I decide to watch and then get bored of them and grudge being charged the full price for something I didn't enjoy nor watch entirely but I guess the TV networks prefer the pay to start watching to get more revenue. I guess it's good they even went with the 99c per episode to begin with.

I think the new ATV design is nice. Just a plug would have saved finding space to position it but it needs line of sight for the IR remote so it makes sense the way they did it. With a bluetooth remote, it could have been a plug but it's no big deal.

I'm slightly disappointed by the lack of a motion wand and no apps or browser but it's sort of true that people don't expect TV to be computers, just dumb old content providers so this direction makes sense. The new price point is so much better.

For that, get a VuDu subscription.........

That's what some said about the original AppleTV when it came out. We know where that went.

no its not
i have rotund most of the good stuff from starts is low quality
they are always pushing you onto amazon hd buying or rentals

apple TV gives you a perfect hd show and a smaller version if you buy it
AND YOU VCAN FINISH THE SHOW ON YOUR pod > touch >nano > iphone 160G CLASSIC !!

I AM SHOCKED AT ALL THE DOLTS HERE TO DAY
THiS IS A GRAND SLAM FOR APPLE
you guys really suck a big hairy pineapple

AND streaming for free from netflix will rock !!!!
i own roku for my upstairs netflix stuff
and version fios netflix down stair's
FIOS gives ME 19g up and down
so the apple tv will rock my 42 in plasma
and the hd quality on apple itunes is fantastic

somehow i feel i will buy 4 things this week
apple tv
my first ipod touch !!yayyyyyy !!!!!!!
maybe 2 nano's
and i will buy the 160 g classic just to bury it forever


can the beetles be far behind ?????

terday
All my troubles seemed so far away
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe
In yesterday

Suddenly
I'm not half the man I used to be
There's a shadow hanging over me
Oh, yesterday
Came suddenly

Why she
Had to go I don't know
She wouldn't say
I said
Something wrong now I long
For yesterday

Yesterday
Love was such an easy game to play
Now I need a place to hide away
Oh, I believe
In yesterday

Why she
Had to go I don't know
She wouldn't say
I said
Something wrong now I long
For yesterday

Yesterday
Love was such an easy game to play
Now I need a place to hide away
Oh, I believe



sads john can't be here to rock with us any more
and poor boy two

I'm curious about this as well. All iTunes HD shows are 720P, but my current Apple TV upscales them to 1080P for my 56" 1080P TV. They look amazing, almost indistinguishable from the "true 1080P" shows on select cable channels that actually broadcast in 1080P. And I am really picky.

For me, 720P is not a problem whatsoever on the current Apple TV...but I don't see 1080P upconversion in the tech specs for the new ATV...

You can do what I did and reduced the cable packages. The good thing with an AppleTV is Itunes pretty much offer all shows of all networks, including cable only networks like Disney and HBO. The only problem was pricing. But if they reduce it, you could probably go with a cheaper cable package and ultimately go with just over the air digital signal and AppleTV.

nice post
you rock dude


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There is a lot of content that I would prefer to own rather then rent (mainly music videos that I watch over and over again.) They will probably do that because bringing the iOS to the Apple TV makes sense and you need a hard drive for that.

I will give you $1, you give my £1.

That's all completely understandable. Like I said, I was just in the opinion that Apple was going to trump Google TV in some way, seeing as they saw Google's hand months ago. If anyone can, it's Apple.

I'm a little disappointed that there wasn't an app interface; however I'll bet there will be more apps available later on. If anyone owns Roku, the ROku player has 50+ apps you can download. If the Roku player can handle it then the new Apple TV should be able to take care of it as well.

Don't bash the aTV product until you've used it; I was quite skeptical until I purchased one; I ripped all my DVDs to it and now I watch more of my older movies then I ever have.

How Many of you buy a DVD watch once then put on your DVD book shelf and never watch it again? By having a interface you can easily select the movie and start watching it. I paid $200 for mine, now that its only $99 I'll pick one up for the bedroom too and ditch my roku player