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Apple's upgraded wireless media streaming feature, now known as AirPlay, will soon offer video and photo streaming to Apple TV directly from iOS 4.2 devices, and allows users to send music and album art to third-party hardware.

Announced on Wednesday, AirPlay is the improved and rebranded AirTunes, which allows users to stream music from their computer to other locations in their home. Previously, that streaming required an Apple-branded AirPort Express or another computer running iTunes.

With AirPlay, users will be able to stream to speaker docks, AV receivers and stereo systems from companies including Denon and Bowers & Wilkins.

Like with AirTunes, AirPlay allows users to simultaneously stream music to multiple devices in different rooms throughout the house. All of this is done via a computer running iTunes and connected to a network over Wi-Fi or Ethernet.

As before, users can select "Multiple Speakers" in the bottom right corner of iTunes to stream to multiple locations throughout the house. Users can also control the volume for individual AirPlay devices by using the free Remote application for the iPhone and iPod touch.



AirPlay also streams information about music to external devices, including song titles, artists, album names, elapsed and remaining time, and album artwork. AirPlay-enabled speakers with graphical displays can then show this information as a track plays.

In addition to Denon and Bowers & Wilkins, featured partners with AirPlay include Marantz, JBL and iHome.



And listed as "coming soon" is the ability to stream music and video from an iOS device to the new Apple TV. During his keynote Wednesday, Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs demonstrated this by streaming the movie "Up" instantly from an iPad running iOS 4.2 over Wi-Fi. iOS 4.2 is set to ship for the iPad this November; no date was given for the iPhone or iPod touch.

Users can start watching a movie or TV show on their iPhone, iPad or iPod touch, and tap the AirPlay icon in the video. By choosing Apple TV, whatever they are watching will instantly begin streaming to their widescreen TV.
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Anyone able to download iTunes 10 yet? Not available where I'm looking...

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Apple's upgraded wireless media streaming feature, now known as AirPlay, allows users to send music to third-party devices, and soon will offer video and music streaming to Apple TV from iOS 4.2 devices.......

AirPlay, especially with the iPad, could be a biggie. We'll have to see how it's implemented.

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As before, users can select "Multiple Speakers" in the bottom left corner of iTunes........

Doesn't the 'multiple speakers' option show on the bottom right?
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A little disappointed not to see Sonos on that list but it's a start i suppose.
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I can't believe more people aren't curious about this, given how many people wanted iOS and apps on Apple TV.

If AirPlay can stream video from third party apps on iOS devices, you don't really need apps on Apple TV because any app could transmit the video to Apple TV and you would have all the controls on your multitouch iOS device...
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Anyone able to download iTunes 10 yet? Not available where I'm looking...

Nope. It'll be here when 160 million iTunes users stop trying to download it all at the same time.
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Curious to know if the promised features for the *new* AppleTV will be available on the *existing* AppleTV. Any references about this on the Apple site?
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This will be huge for all Apple products now that they opened up Air Tunes to 3rd party manufacturers. I hated that any time I wanted to add another Air Tunes spot I had to buy another Airport Express. Apple TV, meh. Air Play, woo!
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I guess it's NOT a no-brainer, so I have to ask: will I finally be able to stream music from my iPhone directly to my two ($79 each) Airport Express base stations?

Or is Apple going to require me to buy another device to perform this apparently simple function?
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I'm curious when we'll start seeing products from the referenced companies that are AirPlay-ready. This could help simplify and improve some things in my house.

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Wish Apple would open up Airplay so it can work on computers and other devices. That would make Apple TV really the hot item.
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Doesn't the 'multiple speakers' option show on the bottom right?

Yea but in the UK it's just the opposite...
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I'm curious when we'll start seeing products from the referenced companies that are AirPlay-ready. This could help simplify and improve some things in my house.

And put lots of super expensive whole house audio systems right out of business...
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Anyone know if this will allow streaming from an iDevice to a Mac?

This would work great for me, as I have a Mac mini as a media center - that way, if a friend comes over and says "hey, check out this cool movie!" we could watch it on the big screen.
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Curious to know if the promised features for the *new* AppleTV will be available on the *existing* AppleTV. Any references about this on the Apple site?

The old ATV was based on an intel CPU I think and running a highly modified version of OS X... The new ATV is based on the Apple A4 and almost assuredly iOS in some incarnation... Some will scream NIT NECESSARLY but let's be honest... What is Apple more likely to do.

1 - Invent some brand new OS for the AppleTV?

2 - Port that highly modified version of OS X to the A4?

3 - Use iOS and have their developers write a ATV like media player?

Oh and if you do pick 1 or 2 then remember that they'd have to have custom versions of Netflix and the Youtube apps developed totally on the down low.. Interesting no?


Something just came to me... What if Apple were to rerelease an Airport Express that did HDMI out and then they released this new iOS based ATV front end to iPad devices...
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If Apple let Panasonic, LG and Samsung build airplay into their televisions, for streaming not just music but also photos and videos, Apple would see their itunes video sales and rentals explode.
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I can't believe more people aren't curious about this, given how many people wanted iOS and apps on Apple TV.

If AirPlay can stream video from third party apps on iOS devices, you don't really need apps on Apple TV because any app could transmit the video to Apple TV and you would have all the controls on your multitouch iOS device...

As I read it, you can't do anything but stream out of iTunes, no 3rd party apps. The website is a bit misleading the way it says, if its on your iPhone/iPad/iPodTouch you can stream it to your AppleTV. But the fine print implies nothing about 3rd party apps and seems to imply "if its in iTunes".
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Anyone know if this will allow streaming from an iDevice to a Mac?

This would work great for me, as I have a Mac mini as a media center - that way, if a friend comes over and says "hey, check out this cool movie!" we could watch it on the big screen.

Wow, a geek with friends;-)
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If Apple let Panasonic, LG and Samsung build airplay into their televisions, for streaming not just music but also photos and videos, Apple would see their itunes video sales and rentals explode.

Apple doesn't make anything from iTunes movies or music... It's nothing more than a necessary evil to safeguard it's iDevice sales. Which is why Netfix is showing up on iDevices... Apple kept them off as a gesture of goodwill to the studios... Since the studios are still giving apple the cold shoulder Steve said SCREWEM welcome aboard Netflix and soon Directv, FiOS and HBO ... If the studios aren't gonna sell their crap direct then there's plenty of other sources stepping up to bat.

To steal a line from a really great movie..

"if you think that by threatening me you can get me to be your slave... Well, that's where you're right. But - and I am only saying this because I care - there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing."
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If Apple let Panasonic, LG and Samsung build airplay into their televisions, for streaming not just music but also photos and videos, Apple would see their itunes video sales and rentals explode.

Even more fun. Once GoogleTV adds Apps, there is bound to be some developer who'll create an AirPlay client app so you can stream from your Mac or iOS device directly to your GoogleTV set top box.
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I can't believe more people aren't curious about this, given how many people wanted iOS and apps on Apple TV.

If AirPlay can stream video from third party apps on iOS devices, you don't really need apps on Apple TV because any app could transmit the video to Apple TV and you would have all the controls on your multitouch iOS device...

This sounds like a giant win. I think you need the individual app to decide what to display on the big screen and what to show on the little one. I know there are currently some restrictions on what goes to video out on an iOS device (presumably because of worries about illegal copying of content), but this isn't a problem when it's just one apple device talking to another.
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As I read it, you can't do anything but stream out of iTunes, no 3rd party apps. The website is a bit misleading the way it says, if its on your iPhone/iPad/iPodTouch you can stream it to your AppleTV. But the fine print implies nothing about 3rd party apps and seems to imply "if its in iTunes".

Yea but that's not to say 3rd party apps can not take advantage of this AirPlay. Currently I have Airfoil on my iMac and with the current AirTunes I can stream "any" audio from my iMac to my Apple TV. So I am hoping that Airfoil is updated to use the AirPlay API and allow me to stream practically anything to my new Apple TV!! This can be great news. Remember if Rouge ameba's AirFoil can use Apple's AirTunes than I doubt Apple is chaining this technology down!!
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I can't believe more people aren't curious about this, given how many people wanted iOS and apps on Apple TV.

If AirPlay can stream video from third party apps on iOS devices, you don't really need apps on Apple TV because any app could transmit the video to Apple TV and you would have all the controls on your multitouch iOS device...

Technically speaking, the video on the display isn't being transmitted, the video file (movie, tv show, etc) is being streamed to the AppleTV.

So what you mentioned isn't possible.
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Technically speaking, the video on the display isn't being transmitted, the video file (movie, tv show, etc) is being streamed to the AppleTV.

So what you mentioned isn't possible.

So the app has to stream a video file that Apple TV can read, I don't see how that makes it impossible. Any app that opens up the video player on an iOS device is reading a compatible video file isn't it? Why couldn't it stream that video to Apple TV?
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Something just came to me... What if Apple were to rerelease an Airport Express that did HDMI out and then they released this new iOS based ATV front end to iPad devices...

On that note, the Airport Express is $99, same as the AppleTV.
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So the app has to stream a video file that Apple TV can read, I don't see how that makes it impossible. Any app that opens up the video player on an iOS device is reading a compatible video file isn't it? Why couldn't it stream that video to Apple TV?

The original question was about streaming games and apps anything else that's being displayed on the iPad's screen to the AppleTV. I assumed what was being asked is something similar to "Remote Desktop" on OS X. So, whatever is being displayed on the iPad screen would then appear on a TV through the AppleTV.

While it is possible to do, it takes a lot of horse power to encode the image and transmit it "on-the-fly". I don't see how the CPU in the iPad could do that and still have enough power left to do process whatever the current app is doing?
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Nope. It'll be here when 160 million iTunes users stop trying to download it all at the same time.

They must be rolling it out in zones to avoid crushing their bandwidth.

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post #28 of 50
I haven't seen any evidence that you can send video from itunes on your computer to your iOS device. It seems like an obvious function, but unless I missed something, they didn't mention it.
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How is the B&W Zeppelin going to take advantage of this? You think they're going to come out with new hardware? I can hardly believe this as it's a big expense for them to do so. My thought is that they are going to sell a USB powered wireless that you can just stick in the back to allow wireless playing of music from your devices? Anyone have any thoughts or additional information?
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And put lots of super expensive whole house audio systems right out of business...

Funny you should mention this, I just last week spent 700$ on a Sonos system, I used AirTunes before but was looking to upgrade to something better... Was actually on the fence before the keynote today, don't get me wrong, Sonos is great, in a lot of ways it out performs AirTunes but for the price of one S5 (speakers sonos uses) and one zone bride that allows me to listen to music in one room I can hook up my entire apartment with airplay.

At this point I am pretty sure I am taking it back to the store, at least until I can see what speakers come out with airplay and to see if apple upgraded the technology.
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Wish Apple would open up Airplay so it can work on computers and other devices. That would make Apple TV really the hot item.

Why wish? Re-read the article and be happy!
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Originally Posted by cmf2 View Post

I can't believe more people aren't curious about this, given how many people wanted iOS and apps on Apple TV.

If AirPlay can stream video from third party apps on iOS devices, you don't really need apps on Apple TV because any app could transmit the video to Apple TV and you would have all the controls on your multitouch iOS device...

Yes! This is the Trojan Horse! Apple doesn't need to negotiate content deals for ATV anymore. Once they get it for iPhone, it's on TV. iOS will be amped up to include airplay gaming. The secret of ATV is that it's no longer a pc peripheral, but an iPhone peripheral!
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Anyone know if this will allow streaming from an iDevice to a Mac?

This would work great for me, as I have a Mac mini as a media center - that way, if a friend comes over and says "hey, check out this cool movie!" we could watch it on the big screen.

This, mostly. I recently replaced the AirPort Express in my living room with a Mac mini; fantastic upgrade, but does mean that I've lost the ability to stream from my main computer (a MacBook Pro) to my sound system. Similarly, since I almost exclusively use the Remote App to control playback from the mini, it would be good to cut out the middle man and stream straight from the iPhone.
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i think this is the first step (well second... cos first was AirTunes :P )... towards the idea that iPhone/iPodTouch/iPad can be stream everything onto Apple TV.

Imagine being able to actually view ur stuff on the tv!? playing games, using ur applications! etc etc ...

WHOA that would be humongous! NICE... i would LOVE to see this happen!!

What say guys!?
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I guess the BIG question is "How much have Apple licensed AirPlay"?

For example have they also licensed the ability to play DRM protected tracks (i.e. those that still have Apple FairPlay DRM attached).

I still have many thousands of tracks in my iTunes library that have FairPlay DRM on them.
Will they stream to 3rd party devices, or will we be limited to DRM free tracks only?

I'm not buying a 3rd party device until this is 100% clear!
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To me, airplay seems like the biggest thing that was announced. I don't think that the masses have quite grasped the significance yet.

iApps aren't needed on the appleTV if an iPad/iPhone/iPod is used as a touch based remote. With that in mind, the appleTV merely needs to play video streams.

I can only hope that this is the paradigm that apple will be pushing...

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Sorry, didn't mean to imply that nobody gets the significance. Clearly many people are already dreaming about what this could become. The masses, they'll catch on soon too.
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Yea but that's not to say 3rd party apps can not take advantage of this AirPlay. Currently I have Airfoil on my iMac and with the current AirTunes I can stream "any" audio from my iMac to my Apple TV. So I am hoping that Airfoil is updated to use the AirPlay API and allow me to stream practically anything to my new Apple TV!! This can be great news. Remember if Rouge ameba's AirFoil can use Apple's AirTunes than I doubt Apple is chaining this technology down!!

The problem is that encoding an audio stream into Apple Lossless (the format AirTunes uses) is relatively trivial and can be done in realtime by your computer. Encoding a video, especially with a processor limited device like an iPhone or iPad is a bit more challenging. It can be done (after all, these devices can record 720p video from their cameras), but then the video needs to be retransmitted to the playing device. All that would leave little if any CPU bandwidth to actually run any application.

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I guess the BIG question is "How much have Apple licensed AirPlay"?

For example have they also licensed the ability to play DRM protected tracks (i.e. those that still have Apple FairPlay DRM attached).

I still have many thousands of tracks in my iTunes library that have FairPlay DRM on them.
Will they stream to 3rd party devices, or will we be limited to DRM free tracks only?

I'm not buying a 3rd party device until this is 100% clear!

I'm wondering the same thing. Apple must have licensed FairPlay. Even if you had all DRM-free music, all the video from the iTunes store is still FairPlay encoded.
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HD is 1080p. 720p is the cheap knockoff from the HD transitional period and is a dinosaur.

I can see the difference on my Mac.

I can see the difference on my TV.
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Come on apple why would you need a damn computer to stream?

Why not streaming from a nas with an itunes library....??????
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Originally Posted by dfiler View Post

To me, airplay seems like the biggest thing that was announced. I don't think that the masses have quite grasped the significance yet.

iApps aren't needed on the appleTV if an iPad/iPhone/iPod is used as a touch based remote. With that in mind, the appleTV merely needs to play video streams.

I can only hope that this is the paradigm that apple will be pushing...

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Sorry, didn't mean to imply that nobody gets the significance. Clearly many people are already dreaming about what this could become. The masses, they'll catch on soon too.

yes this is indeed the biggest thing announced, but it needs more options.
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