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post #41 of 66
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The Red Sox take game 2 in extra innings.

Derek Lowe pitches today. I'm so excited about going to Fenway. It should be a lot of fun.
post #42 of 66
I love watching Ricky Henderson play baseball. He'll be collecting Social Security in a couple of years and last night he sparks the rally that wins the game. The man simply makes things happen. It wasn't just that he got on base. It's the way he did it - a slow roller that barely made it past the pichers mound but he beats it out with a head-first slide for a single. That's baseball!!

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post #43 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by spaceman_spiff:
<strong>I love watching Ricky Henderson play baseball. He'll be collecting Social Security in a couple of years and last night he sparks the rally that wins the game. The man simply makes things happen. It wasn't just that he got on base. It's the way he did it - a slow roller that barely made it past the pichers mound but he beats it out with a head-first slide for a single. That's baseball!!

[ 05-25-2002: Message edited by: spaceman_spiff ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm glad to see that he's not like he was when he was on the Mets in the beginning of 2000... I'm always going to remember when he thought he had hit a HR and it bounced off the wall and he only got a single because he wasn't running hard at all.
post #44 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by spaceman_spiff:
<strong>I love watching Ricky Henderson play baseball. He'll be collecting Social Security in a couple of years and last night he sparks the rally that wins the game. The man simply makes things happen. It wasn't just that he got on base. It's the way he did it - a slow roller that barely made it past the pichers mound but he beats it out with a head-first slide for a single. That's baseball!!

[ 05-25-2002: Message edited by: spaceman_spiff ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


the guy is the biggest ******* you culd ever meet. real scum. but he plays hard... when he wants to.

I hate the guy, probably the only player I hate in the league.


2 down, 2 to go
post #45 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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2 down, 2 to go</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm truly sorry you were disappointed today, applenut.
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post #46 of 66
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Well, I went to the game today, and the Red Sox had every opportunity to win the game, but just couldn't capitalize on those chances.

Lowe pitched fine, with the exception of one inning, and something was obviously bugging Wells.

The home plate umpire was also very conservative in calling strikes for both teams. I saw a few times where players from both sides should have been rung up, but weren't.

Any way, I'm not sure if they'll get the game in tomorrow, as it's supposed to rain, but it's an 8:00 start so they have a shot.
post #47 of 66
yea the ump was prety bad and Wells got pissed at him.

good game. missed chances on both sides.

on the replay jeter was safe at home.
post #48 of 66
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Are you sure? Wow. From where I was sitting, it looked like he was out- even the Yankee fans sitting in front of me and behind me thought he was out.

Wouldn't have changed the game any, though.
post #49 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>Are you sure? Wow. From where I was sitting, it looked like he was out- even the Yankee fans sitting in front of me and behind me thought he was out.

Wouldn't have changed the game any, though.</strong><hr></blockquote>

yea. just got in.


good series. Yankees really gave them an *** kicking yesterday. made up for those 2 losses

1 game out
post #50 of 66
Here come the next three games! I say Sox take them 2-1.

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post #51 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by Mandricard:
<strong>Here come the next three games! I say Sox take them 2-1.

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Heh... i'd be more inclined to think 1 out of 3 (tonight), but i'm somewhat of a worrywart. But if a few things go right for the Sox, the yanks could be in trouble.
1. The Sox have been hitting Yankee pitching pretty well, exceptions of late being Lilly (3 runs) and Mendoza (nuthin). I'd like nothing better than to see Nomar and Shea drive in 3 apiece and the Sox return the favor for last Sunday.
2. i assume a respectable outing from Lowe at this point, and not a good one from Frank (or, if Castillo does pitch well, the Sox get him no runs; it's a law of nature) and Arrojo. If one of them comes through, it could get the Sox a win.
3. Daubach has been doing a good job of filling in for some of Manny's production; if the other half were to appear in the person of Trot or Clark, that would be swell, too.

So, conservatively, i'll say the Sox take tonight's game, and probably drop two close ones. But i think that with one of those three things going right, it could be a great weekend!
post #52 of 66
Grand slam!

4 Homeruns including a Giambi bomb

Yanks could move into a tie tomorrow
post #53 of 66
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That was the first game where I really saw the Red Sox pitching break down.

First, you had Arrojo pitching his first game in the rotation instead of Oliver. Than, when called in to relieve Arrojo, he through a major attitude around. Then, he was relieved by Garces who gave up the grand slam. El Guapo lost a ton of weight in the off season, but after some poor performances in spring training, he was told to put the weight back on. I'm not sure what's going on with him now, but he used to be one of the best setup guys in baseball. I'm hoping he's not injured because that's the thing that killed us last year- injuries.

I have one question for the Yankee fans- who is this Thurman guy who's pitching today? I don't think I've ever heard of him before.

It wasn't Clemens turn to pitch was it? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

At least the Red Sox have proved one thing over the course of this last big road trip. People said that the Sox were going to falter once they played some 'real teams', but they haven't- and this without Manny Ramirez.

Do you know how hard it is to lose the best hitter in baseball (he was leading the majors before he was put on the DL), and keep winning? It just shows the depth of the Red Sox and I think that they will continue to play good baseball.

BTW, I'm looking at the schedule, and after the Red Sox play 4 games against the Detroit Tigers (hehehe), it's Interleague Play. I hate Interleague play, it's completely pointless and nothing but a gimmick. Instead of playing these games, you could have more series against teams in your division, or at least in your league where you compete for first place and the wild card. Anyone else agree with me here?
post #54 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
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I hate Interleague play, it's completely pointless and nothing but a gimmick. Instead of playing these games, you could have more series against teams in your division, or at least in your league where you compete for first place and the wild card. Anyone else agree with me here?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I hate interleague play, the designated hitter, astroturf, the wild card. They're all gimmicks.

And I thought Red Sox fans were the only ones who got excited about the rivalry anymore? What's applenut doing, dancing around after just one win? It didn't even move them into a tie for first. The Yanks are playing such good ball too. The Sox will just have to slam the door shut today.
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post #55 of 66
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I have one question for the Yankee fans- who is this Thurman guy who's pitching today? I don't think I've ever heard of him before. <hr></blockquote>

he was brought up for Pettite. Only has a few appearances. Don't reall know how he is

[quote]
Do you know how hard it is to lose the best hitter in baseball (he was leading the majors before he was put on the DL), and keep winning? It just shows the depth of the Red Sox and I think that they will continue to play good baseball.<hr></blockquote>

do you know how it is when 4 of your 6 starters have been having injury problems. pettite has been out for months, Wells' back acts up occasionally, and Hernandez well no one ever knows what is wrong with him, and the Hitchcock just did not come back strong from surgery.

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And I thought Red Sox fans were the only ones who got excited about the rivalry anymore? What's applenut doing, dancing around after just one win? It didn't even move them into a tie for first. The Yanks are playing such good ball too. The Sox will just have to slam the door shut today. <hr></blockquote>

I get a little giddy when the Yankees demolish a team like that
post #56 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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do you know how it is when 4 of your 6 starters have been having injury problems. pettite has been out for months, Wells' back acts up occasionally, and Hernandez well no one ever knows what is wrong with him, and the Hitchcock just did not come back strong from surgery.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Dustin Hermanson hasn't pitched an inning for us yet. He was supposed to battle Burkett for the number 2 slot. (He won 20 for St. Louis last year.) As for Wells' back, the Yanks knew about that when they got him. He missed half of last season with the Chisox because of his back. Anyway, injuries are a part of the game. At least the Sox aren't getting hammered with them like they did last year.

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post #57 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by spaceman_spiff:
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Dustin Hermanson hasn't pitched an inning for us yet. He was supposed to battle Burkett for the number 2 slot. (He won 20 for St. Louis last year.) As for Wells' back, the Yanks knew about that when they got him. He missed half of last season with the Chisox because of his back. Anyway, injuries are a part of the game. At least the Sox aren't getting hammered with them like they did last year.

[ 06-02-2002: Message edited by: spaceman_spiff ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


that's my point. we have 4 of our 6 starters not 100% and we are still 1 game behind you. possibly tied after today.

just think when we only have 2 of the 6 hurting or even all 6 firing on all engines.

bring back Manny. He gets 3-4 at bats a game. may win some ball games but he isn't gonna be as effective to success as when we get our starters healthy
post #58 of 66
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[quote]that's my point. we have 4 of our 6 starters not 100% and we are still 1 game behind you. possibly tied after today.<hr></blockquote>

Actually, that's pretty sad, really. The Red Sox have injuries, the Yankees have injuries, and both teams are STILL the best in baseball. It just goes to show you the divide of talent between the 'haves' and 'have nots'.
post #59 of 66
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The Red Sox take 2 out of 3 from the Yankees in New York, raising their lead to 2 games.

The Red Sox are now the only team without 20 losses or more in baseball.
post #60 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>The Red Sox take 2 out of 3 from the Yankees in New York, raising their lead to 2 games.

The Red Sox are now the only team without 20 losses or more in baseball.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The Yankees played horrible today. Just a pathetic performance all around.

Good amount of Red Sox fans at the game today. Sitting in front of me were a group of 5 or 6 Boston College geeky kids. one of em was just annoyng as hell and screamed throughout the whole game. Pretty funny because he was so nerdy looking but annoying. Got a few things thrown at em
post #61 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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Good amount of Red Sox fans at the game today.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Beautiful day for a game. Not like it was the time I went to the Stadium ealier this year. It snowed.

I hope Henderson wasn't hurt too bad. Castillo really had the Yankees off balance today.
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post #62 of 66
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[quote]Sitting in front of me were a group of 5 or 6 Boston College geeky kids. one of em was just annoyng as hell and screamed throughout the whole game. Pretty funny because he was so nerdy looking but annoying. Got a few things thrown at em<hr></blockquote>

Yeah, I was sitting with a lot of Yankees fans when I went to the game. Loud and annoying as hell. The worst was the giant (as in size) Yankees fan who sat next to my little cousin. Took up not only his own seat, but half of the ones next to him as well. He got piss drunk and acted like a giant loser throughout the game.

Don't mind the BC kids. 90% are preppy rich kids. Mommy and Daddy probably paid for them to go to the game.

As for Rickey Henderson, he's fine. No broken bones, he just wanted attention. That's Rickey for you though. He'll be with the team against the Tigers.
post #63 of 66
one thing is true, with the exception of Sunday (for the Yanks) and Saturday (for the Red Sox) both teams are playing very good baseball.

It's gonna be an exciting race I think.
post #64 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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It's gonna be an exciting race I think.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It would be even better without the damn wild card. I'm old enough to remember '78. That didn't turn out so good for the Sox but there's just nothing like it when two teams play at that level (100+ wins) and one of them is going to come up empty handed. A seven game playoff doesn't come close to the pressure cooker environment that existed when there were pennant races like that. They didn't happen all that often but when they did every game was crucial.
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post #65 of 66
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[quote]It would be even better without the damn wild card. <hr></blockquote>

Well, I'm not sure what to think of this. You have to have the wild card as long as you have interleague play. It's not right for teams to not play more games in their division to determine their own fate.

Not only do the teams have to go play in the other league, but then they have to make adjustments to play there. For example, in an AL park, the NL team has to come up with another good hitter to bat DH, and when in the NL park, the AL team loses their DH and the pitchers have to hit (basically automatic out).

Plus, interleague play used to be: AL East plays NL East. AL Central plays NL Central, etc.

Now, it's Boston plays what appears to be NL West, but doesn't play the Giants and does play the Braves. (WTF?) That means in June, the Red Sox play games on the west coast which is an extra road trip. I personally hate those because that means games aren't on until 10:05. If I have to be at work early and get up at my normal time (in the middle of the night), I can't watch the game (unless I catch the end of it at work. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> )

Plus, the owners and players make a lot more money off of the playoff games, so having 7 series instead of 3 makes them better off. Plus, if you only had 4 divisions, there are so many teams now that 3/4 of the teams in baseball would be out of the running within the first week. Actually, that's nearly the way it is now, but I'd say maybe half would still have a chance at the wild card today.
post #66 of 66
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
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Well, I'm not sure what to think of this. You have to have the wild card as long as you have interleague play. It's not right for teams to not play more games in their division to determine their own fate. </strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't like interleague play either.

[quote]<strong>Plus, the owners and players make a lot more money off of the playoff games, so having 7 series instead of 3 makes them better off. Plus, if you only had 4 divisions, there are so many teams now that 3/4 of the teams in baseball would be out of the running within the first week. Actually, that's nearly the way it is now, but I'd say maybe half would still have a chance at the wild card today.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Baseball is losing fans in part because of all the gimmicks. If there were real pennant races you'd have basically the same teams in contention. They'd just be after fewer post season slots. In the AL you'd have Seattle and Anaheim battling it out in the West with Minnesota right behind and Boston and NY in the East. What's a 162 game season for if you're not going to have real pennant races? With the way it is now you have teams knowing that if they can just clear a lower threshold, they'll still make it into the playoffs.

[ 06-03-2002: Message edited by: spaceman_spiff ]</p>
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