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No seperate accounts = fail.

What's that honey? You want to check your mail? Sorry the mail app is only configured for my account...

I have multiple email accounts on my phone.
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I have multiple email accounts on my phone.

Same here. About 20 on my iPad and 35 on my Mac, mostly IMAP and a few older POP3 ones. Sounds like pondosinatra is criticizing iOS without actually having seen or tried it.
post #83 of 110
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Originally Posted by pondosinatra View Post

No seperate accounts = fail.

What's that honey? You want to check your mail? Sorry the mail app is only configured for my account...

Umm, may I suggest configuring it for additional accounts? There may be a limit to the number of accounts you may have, but it's ≠ 1
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Actually I'm entirely right.

Your comment about firewire is...well, I don't know what it is because I don't know what the hell you said. I own a 13 inch MacBook that has no firewire port. Hence my comment about firewire is about as right as you can get. It was wrong for Apple to leave it off, just as it was wrong for Apple to leave USB out of the iPad.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts. Nor are you entitled to change your tune and expect not to get call on it. Here's what you actually said:

"Getting rid of firewire was a mistake made by Steve Jobs. He screwed up. That's why he put it back on."

But they didn't "get rid of it" at all did they? Just removed it from 1 model in the entire range of macbooks.

And if this was a mistake and a terrible thing to do that upsets you so badly you use it as exhibit a) in why Apple are doing everything wrong, why did you buy one anyway? Or tell me, do you, you know, not actually need it after all...?
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Umm, may I suggest configuring it for additional accounts? There may be a limit to the number of accounts you may have, but it's ≠ 1

Ya you can add additional mail accounts, Yahoo, Google etc. But what about when two people have a Shaw account which uses the same POP3 server?
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Ya you can add additional mail accounts, Yahoo, Google etc. But what about when two people have a Shaw account which uses the same POP3 server?

I don't know how things work in your neck of the Internet woods, but around here, accounts are identified by user names, not POP3 servers. I have 5 accounts on the same Roadrunner server on my iPad.
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... But what about when two people have a Shaw account which uses the same POP3 server?

Sorry I can't walk you through the steps off the top of my head pondosinatra, but the same POP server isn't relevant. Email accounts are distinguished from one another on the server their your login names and passwords. As such it's likely there are thousands of people using your same POP3 server.

POP3 is not designed to support more than one connection at a time. Perhaps that's the problem you're encountering.

The following may be helpful: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2621

This isn't a user support forum; you'll get more intelligent help on Apple's support website.
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post #88 of 110
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Reminds me of when they left the mail app off of the first iPod touch and then charged me ten bucks to download it months later.

And did you pay it?
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post #89 of 110
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post #90 of 110
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Ya you can add additional mail accounts, Yahoo, Google etc. But what about when two people have a Shaw account which uses the same POP3 server?

As long as you're not trying to check both simultaneously from the same device, which would be impressive, then that shouldn't be a problem. Make your wife an account on your phone. Problem solved. That's one 'basic feature' that has been around since launch. I have several accounts for work on 1 phone that use the same server. Never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by Bcs123 View Post

As long as you're not trying to check both simultaneously from the same device, which would be impressive, then that shouldn't be a problem. Make your wife an account on your phone. Problem solved. That's one 'basic feature' that has been around since launch. I have several accounts for work on 1 phone that use the same server. Never had a problem.

Hmmm I'll give it a shot tonight and see if I can get it to work (and I'm talking about the iPad, not iPhone btw).
post #92 of 110
As much as I want a new iPad I am going to wait for 2nd gen to come out, where we will see many new features. I'm glad Apple worked out a way to print through a simple software update, but I don't know why the ability to print was not included in the original release. Nice device for college students to read texts without having to carry 40 to 50 lbs of books all day.
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Easy is irrelevant. Basic and necessary are the correct criteria.

If this stuff was easy, everybody would have great devices. If putting basic functionality into a device is not easy for Apple, then they should get better friggin engineers; don't just leave out basic functionality!

Easy is irrelevant. Necessary is much more important as a decision factor.

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post #94 of 110
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Originally Posted by Rav Cook View Post

What I see when I think about the iPad with iOS 4.2, and the retina display, two cameras, and facetime is a amazing device that will have such a huge lead, it will take years for anyone to catch up.

The iPad won't be getting a "retina display" any time soon. WIth the iPhone it was doable because its new resolution (960x640) is well within the capabilities of the hardware (for comparison, many new Android models output 800x480 or marginally higher)

With the iPad, if you were to do the same thing, you'd get a resolution of 2048x1536. My Macbook Pro is currently outputting to its 1280x800 monitor and a 1920x1080 attached monitor (which is a combined resolution smaller than a hypothetical "retina" iPad), and it struggles with the Exposé animations.

iPad won't be getting such a resolution bump any time soon unless Apple implements a midway resolution that screws with existing iPad apps



As for the other listed improvements, I'm surprised that more of them didn't already exist in iOS. I don't have that much experience / time with iOS devices (I have a 32GB 3rd generation Touch that I got on the cheap with my notebook), but I am somewhat surprised that you can't do text searches on webpages.

I'm very curious to see how Apple will implement printing....unless the iPad talks directly to the printer (which seems unlikely since you'd need to have drivers), I wouldn't be surprised if Apple took the same route as Google is with its Chrome OS
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Jobs did say HDR is coming to iPad?

http://www.ankleskater.com/iphotography
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If you don't like a poster, or he doesn't say all that you would like, don't read his posts. Don't stamp your feet like a child.

Sheesh.

He's not a poster he is a troll.
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post #97 of 110
I'm going to make this quick because it's 9pm where I am and US Open tennis is starting in a few hours, plus I've got some 99c Lost Season6 HD episodes to watch... That is, I have other things to do than sit and troll AI Forums all day long...

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As far as who wants to hold an iPad, you have to since the screen can't hold itself up like a real laptop.

There are many attractive and stylish cases and stands that do all kinds of things to help the usage. In fact, if you use the iPad in landscape mode a lot, like a laptop, the Apple case folds to allow this, it's quite useable. There are other foldy-type cases from third parties that will ease your transition into the tablet world.

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You mention wireless. What's one of the points of being wireless? To keep your hands free. And Apple designs a device that you have to constantly hold in your hand.

See above. Also, one of the points of being wireless is, FFS you just grab the iPad and use it, there's no power cable, there's no USB this or that, it's more convenient. You have to constantly hold it in your hand? Well, damn, I didn't know there were laptops that floated in air? You want to use the iPad on a table or on your lap, use a case. Like I said, I recommend the Apple one, but that's only because I'm a blind deluded fanboi, right?

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Another reason why the iPad is a magical failure.

To this, sir, I truly have nothing to respond with. You clearly have high standards in what is considered a success. Reinventing an industry and selling out more devices than you can physically make while the rest of the world still wants it... is a failure in your eyes, I guess.
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Originally Posted by stelligent View Post

Jobs did say HDR is coming to iPad?

http://www.ankleskater.com/iphotography

For when the next iPad model has a camera, that's what I postulate. Let's face it. A front-facing FaceTime camera that also takes pictures is a no-brainer to be put in the next iPad.
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He's not a poster he is a troll.

Between old Blacky and his new doppelganger, Newtron, about 97 replies were directed at fending off their absurdities, out of 98 total posts. I counted the multiple quote-replies within a single post; that explains the alarming proportion. These are counted because they also steal our attention and WASTE OUR TIME AND GOOD WILL.

This thread started out as some good news, and there are some real issues we could have been discussing, such as HDR and camera(s) for the iPad. Instead we get provocations from people who PRETEND not to 'get' the tailored -- not limited -- functionality of the most useful portable web computer ever, totally surprising in all the ways and places you can use it. Only an ungracious techno-pervert would, if sincere, call it 'crippled.' Such people exist, but that's not who we're dealing with here.

It will please old Blackguard that I find myself arguing with his pretend idiocies long after I quit reading, while driving to work, etc. It will please him because he sees it as his job (or is actually paid) to poison this forum and bum us all out. And now Newtron has signed on. No amount of reasoning, insulting or shaming will reach these guys. It's their job, self-appointed or otherwise.

When they post, I suggest we only answer 'IGNORE' so that others will be less likely to quote and respond, which is what drives the thread into the ditch. Any other suggestions welcome.
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Between old Blacky and his new doppelganger, Newtron, about 97 replies were directed at fending off their absurdities, out of 98 total posts.

Sorry, change that to 'about 72' out of the 98. I just looked at my (rather rough) scorecard again.
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Sorry, change that to 'about 72' out of the 98. I just looked at my (rather rough) scorecard again.

It's been a long weekend of trolling. I do wish we could get people to use the ignore function. When you do that, you can scroll through some of the threads from the last few days and notice that they're at least 50% trolling bullshit and another 20-30% angry rebuttals.

Which means some reasonably interesting topics are getting completely swamped out, with no real discussion possible. Shame.
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post #102 of 110
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As long as you're not trying to check both simultaneously from the same device, which would be impressive, then that shouldn't be a problem. Make your wife an account on your phone. Problem solved. That's one 'basic feature' that has been around since launch. I have several accounts for work on 1 phone that use the same server. Never had a problem.

It doesn't Effin work!!!

I cannot create ANY POP3 account on the iPad. The only way I can get email to work properly is by synching my email account info from iTunes. And I've triple checked that all the settings are the same as in Mail on OS X. Ok, so I'll just do the same with the wife's account right? Nope. "The information on the iPad ... is synched with another user account. Do you want to synch this iPad with the information from this user account instead?"

Bloody POS! About ready to toss it through the window.
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It's been a long weekend of trolling. I do wish we could get people to use the ignore function. When you do that, you can scroll through some of the threads from the last few days and notice that they're at least 50% trolling bullshit and another 20-30% angry rebuttals.

Which means some reasonably interesting topics are getting completely swamped out, with no real discussion possible. Shame.

Ok, I'll give it try. Better for blood pressure anyway.
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Originally Posted by pondosinatra View Post

I cannot create ANY POP3 account on the iPad.

There's your problem. This is not normal. You either have a defective iPad or you're doing something wrong. Is you iPad on the same wireless network? Does your wireless network allow multiple logins? It's entirely possible the mail settings on your iPad are the same as those on your Mac, but are still the wrong settings for the iPad.
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Originally Posted by Eye Forget View Post

Perhaps you should consider those of us who actually take our ipads away from the sofa and travel with it. It's a complete pain to print when you can't configure a network.

I don't dismiss the need for a USB port, such a port would make the current iPad compatible with FaceTime for example. The problem is we have not seen Apples printing solution for iOS yet. They might actually require a print server of some sort to reduce the need for printer drivers on the iPad. That is they could default to using PDF as the document format and transfer that to whatever printer might be open on the network. That would greatly reduce the need for drivers on the iOS device itself thus saving RAM and Flash space. The fact that there are many ways to approach this means that we can't be 100% sure that it will be liked by everybody.

It is the question of drivers that makes the use of USB printers a big question in my mind, especially on a portable device. Maybe somebody with SDK access can comment but, I'd be surprised if printing support will come in the usual way. The reality is that when traveling you have no idea what printer you might be connecting to, so the problem isn't much different than the issues you have with networks.

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Originally Posted by Newtron View Post

Cut and Paste too. You would have thought it was some sort of innovation instead of a standard feature to listen to the hype.

Its not about the feature, its the implementation. And the hype had substance to it. Cut/Paste as implemented on other mobile platforms simply don't reach the standard that UIKits does.
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November is too late

For what?

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post #108 of 110
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

There's your problem. This is not normal. You either have a defective iPad or you're doing something wrong. Is you iPad on the same wireless network? Does your wireless network allow multiple logins? It's entirely possible the mail settings on your iPad are the same as those on your Mac, but are still the wrong settings for the iPad.

Ok, so I got it working. I did exactly the same thing I did before except that this time it allowed me to create the accounts. Bizarre. Still pissed off however
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Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post

You wouldn't need wireless printing if the iPad had a USB port.

Gotta love Apple. Leave a key feature off of a device and then make a big deal when they give it to you months later. Reminds me of when they left the mail app off of the first iPod touch and then charged me ten bucks to download it months later.

Why keep pining for an actual USB port when you can accomplish the same thing through the dock port with an adapter?

Not enough people are going to use USB with an iPad to justify complicating the design process. For the rest of you, get the adapter.

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Originally Posted by Newtron View Post

Instead, he is complaining about basic features that every device has or should have. That is what you are missing.

Indeed, he is complaining about the lack of a USB port, and he is implying that it is a basic feature that every device SHOULD have. For the record, I disagree. Here's my stance: not every device should have a USB port. And iPad is one of those that SHOULDN'T.

But, let's take the discussion to a more subjective level. Leaving aside the concept of "should" or "shouldn't", customers will vote with their wallets. If the iPad sells well without a USB port (and the evidence suggests that it is) then there is room in the market for such a device. All of this blather about "should" or "shouldn't" becomes moot. We find out as we move forward. Apple is gambling one way, and they will either win or lose that gamble.

(FWIW, my money is on Apple to win, not Blackintosh.)

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