Originally Posted by SockRolid
And did Apple perish with that measly 6% of the overall personal computer market? Nope. Why not?
Because Apple's 6% is the top 6%.
Apple has done okay with 6% computer market share. That doesn't mean that was how it was supposed to work out. Microsoft executed in the 90s and Apple made some very, very bad decisions. In an alternate reality, with someone competent at the head of Apple in the late 80s/early 90s, things would have been different.
Originally Posted by LewysBlackmore
So the actual question to ask is, what measure does Apple use to judge success? Obviously it isn't market dominance, SJ stated that he would be happy with 1% of the worldwide market for the iPhone. At 2.2% - this means that the iPhone has surpassed their target handily within 3 years of its inception - from here on out it's all gravy as far as Apple is concerned.
Absolutely wrong. The goal of 1% was for the first year only, not to remain fixed forever at 1%. Go back and watch the video from 2007 on Youtube.
Originally Posted by nvidia2008
Is there anyone else that can challenge Android in 2011 and 2012? Unfortunately it doesn't look like it, unless Microsoft does a Windows7-quality mobile platform.
I think Windows Phone 7 looks pretty good. In a lot of ways much better than the "open" Android. Less restrictive than Apple - more carriers, more handsets, etc. - but hopefully without turning everything over to the carriers like Android has. I think WP7 will hurt Android much more than iPhone.
Originally Posted by Wurm5150
APPLE STOPPED CARING ABOUT MARKETSHARE A LONG LONG TIME AGO. They measure success now by profits. As long that doesn't drop it's all that matters.
This is not true, and I don't understand why it keeps getting repeated here. Apple has shown their MO with the iPod. Profits are important, of course, and Apple is not going to become Dell, scraping by on a 5% margin. But if Apple can still earn a healthy margin and dominate a market, they will. The extremely low market share in the PC space is an aberration. I don't think it is how Jobs would have done it had he been running Apple, and I don't think it is applicable to the current Apple.
Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
Things are different this time:
- they continue to innovate
The iPhone 4 hardware is amazing, and the software and services that Apple controls is great. But Apple only controls half the experience. Until the iPhone is on other/all carriers - mainly Verizon in the US - innovation on Apple's side will only take them so far.
Originally Posted by anantksundaram
At some point, Google will have to
start to figure out a way to start to monetize Android (since they are not a charity, but a shareholder value-maximizing firm). That will be fun to watch......
They already are.http://hardgeek.org/how-does-google-...h-cow%E2%80%9D