Originally Posted by AsianBob
This argument will become a double-edged sword soon. The Android tablets are coming and there are a few MP3 players using it too, so hopefully future numbers like these will take that into account and will be a bit more "balanced".
Question I have is what happens when Android starts showing up in all kinds of kitchen appliances and home media devices? Will the usual people who call these numbers "FUD" and "skewed" continue to do so if the analysis starts counting those appliances too?
I didn't mean it as an argument-- just to correct the OP that the thread was discussing OSes not devices.'
I am all for discussing the benefits and popularity of A vs B-- but I don't think it makes sense to arbitrarily skew the comparison one way or another, e.g., these would seem to be valid and useful comparisons:
-- Usage/popularity/avg price of All Android phones vs All iOS phones
-- Usage/popularity/features/price of phone A vs phone B
-- Usage/popularity across all devices, of Android OS vs iOS vs Win Mobil OS vs WebOS...
At present, Apple has an advantage in the latter comparison because its iOS runs on more different types of devices.
I expect this to change as other OSes will be used on new types of devices coming in the near future,
I do not think it valid or useful to make comparisons like:
-- All Android phones vs iOS across all devices
-- All iPhones vs all devices Running Android OS (or any OS)
I understand that Android OS (and to some degree, WinMobile, WebOS, etc.) will, likely, be used on other devices from MP3 players, Tablets to Set Top Boxes.
What I don't know is how adaptable these OSes are to other non-phone devices.
Consider, Apple was not able to just move iOS from the phone to the iPad. They decided that it was necessary to temporarily fork iOS to add APIs and frameworks to support the larger screen size -- the iPad was announced in January, and started shipping in April. The iPad will be upgraded in November to use the same iOS as the other iDevices. That means that, for whatever reasons, it has taken Apple almost 11 months to incorporate iPad capabilities into their mainstream iOS.
It's more than just screen size-- many apps need to be redesigned to exploit the additional real estate.
For example, Apple's Mail and Calendar apps on the iPad are completely different than the same app on an iPhone, the web (Mobile Me), or even a Mac. There is more information, and it is displayed differently-- the app is a different app
than other implementations. New APIs and Frameworks were added to iOS to make this possible.I don't know enough about Android to know if this is an issue affecting its use on tablets-- though I have read a few comments that it is (or may be).
I don't have any citations or links (I will try to find some and update this post). But I read sometime, in the last few days, an article about an upcoming Android tablet-- the Samsung, I think. Noteworthy was the claimed advantage, that the mfgr. had decided that a better UI was required for the mail app on the tablet-- and that they had written their own UI similar to the iPad mail app.
Apple thought it necessary to fork iPad iOS for 11 months to make it robust enough to support this new class of device.
An honest question: has Google found the need to do the same with Android?
Finally, I agree that we will, likely, see Android (and other OSes) in home media devices. But, I am less sure that there is a need for this class of OS in a kitchen appliance (refrigerator, oven, etc.) or even in HVAC, lighting or home security.
For these "home appliances" it may be more logical to have the appliance contain a small dedicated controller/sensor hub that can interface the appliance to a more robust central hub running a more general OS. Do I really want the fridge to keep track of its contents and maintain a shopping list, budget spreadsheet, etc.
Rather, it makes more sense to do this on the combination of a personal computer/set top box/mobile device:
1) I create/update my shopping list on my computer or what ever mobile device is handy and sync to all
2) I Samba through the supermarket, checking off items on my mobile, as I drop them in my basket.
3) I ChaCha up to the checkout where the sales are rung up.
4) I Bump my mobile with the checkout terminal-- it gets my payment, I get a detailed electronic receipt (including "Use By Date" on perishables.
5) Once home, I Fandango up to the Fridge and restock it and the Pantry
6) I Mambo up to my Mac and Bump my receipt into it,
All is good! My computer, and every device synced or within WiFi range; knows what I have, where it is, how much it cost, when to use it.
Then I Danza up to the Display (or mobile) in my kitchen -- it suggest recipes based on recent meals, ingredient availability, "Use By Date", etc.
With a few quick Tango steps I Tap each ingredient as I use it-- removing it from stock.The Lambada handles the Leftovers!
Seriously, I don't really think I need a TV or a computer in my refrigerator. Why? I can buy an iPad, or similar device, probably for less money... and it is portable and more flexible. Same reason I don't buy an entertainment system for the car!