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Originally Posted by daylove22 View Post

why so long? mine took less than 5 minutes for the whole process.

Because we all have different quality of net connection and server load at the time we download the update.
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Originally Posted by super8sean View Post

Anyone having proximity issues on the iphone 4 after installing ver 4.1????

Nope. But then I've never experienced it, or the antennae issue. Nor has anyone I know. 4.1 is definitely more responsive and loving hdr pics. Everyone here (17happy iPhone users) report fast, easy update, and a continued clean bill of health.
post #83 of 131
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Originally Posted by Roos24 View Post

Clock sync not fixed. Maybe next update...

What's up with yr clock sync?
post #84 of 131
Bluetooth tethering to ipad?
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

Lol. Millions of people used a broken device? I don't think so.

If yr device was broken, you should have returned it. Millions of people with a 'broken' device would have made one very large noise in the media.

Um... can't return 3G Iphone and it's true.. we have been broken and waiting.

You are really going to claim this is the first you have heard of the problem? Come on.
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gamecenter is a VERY un-Apple UI.
kinda feels like a poker table.

This is a particularly funny comment considering the very first game in the App Store was Apple's own Texas HoldEm poker app.

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Ssl vpn?
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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z View Post

Um... can't return 3G Iphone and it's true.. we have been broken and waiting.

You are really going to claim this is the first you have heard of the problem? Come on.

I've heard that performance on the 3G was sluggish under iOS 4. I've not heard anyone claim their phone was 'broken'. You can return any device, or get it fixed or replaced if manufacturer action breaks it. Or you could have restored your phone to factory default settings and re-synced yr data. Which would have returned the os and settings to the phone as it was when bought.

Most companies don't even bother making new updates work on older devices. There were issues on older devices, there are now less issues. I think you could do with a little perspective.

If your phone was 'broken' you should have had that problem sorted by your mobile company. But I'm guessing that the phone was usable, just had some issues. These issues are now addressed and yr still complaining!
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... If yr device was broken, you should have returned it. Millions of people with a 'broken' device would have made one very large noise in the media.

I know what you're saying, but speaking as an owner of a brand-new but broken iPhone 4 that Apple refuses to replace, I don't think it's always the case that you can take something back to the Apple store. I got a defective unit straight from the factory and so far they are stone-walling me.

Most of the time you're probably right, but not all the time.
post #90 of 131
iPod app still crashes on the 3G randomly. If you use the iPod app in the background the phone becomes very sluggish and almost unusable. Loading times for certain apps still > 20 seconds. SMS still takes years to load, etc.

Great bloatware. Thank you Apple!
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

I've heard that performance on the 3G was sluggish under iOS 4. I've not heard anyone claim their phone was 'broken'. You can return any device, or get it fixed or replaced if manufacturer action breaks it. Or you could have restored your phone to factory default settings and re-synced yr data. Which would have returned the os and settings to the phone as it was when bought.

You can find massive rage posts on Apples forums... many people have been claiming broken. I would love to know where you can return a phone several years old for a software problem??

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Most companies don't even bother making new updates work on older devices. There were issues on older devices, there are now less issues. I think you could do with a little perspective.

This is true...HOWEVER...they did and it had problems. As a software developer myself I would have understood the 3G not getting the OS4.. but they made it available and it didn't work. The problem is not on me..

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If your phone was 'broken' you should have had that problem sorted by your mobile company. But I'm guessing that the phone was usable, just had some issues. These issues are now addressed and yr still complaining!

The definition of broken differs to many... the fact that I could 'occasionally' use the phone between lockups but playing movies, games and audio was almost useless is borderline broken IMHO.

The issues were addressed (today...4 months later)... who said I'm complaining?
post #92 of 131
iOS 4.1 iPhone 4
updated this with the GM release.

so far with 2 days of use:

- prox sensor issue definitely fixed.
- bluetooth seems to be better.
- garble with Microcell seems to have gone away.
- failed calls happens less.
- seems a little quicker in some app switching.

That's it so far.
post #93 of 131
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

I know what you're saying, but speaking as an owner of a brand-new but broken iPhone 4 that Apple refuses to replace, I don't think it's always the case that you can take something back to the Apple store. I got a defective unit straight from the factory and so far they are stone-walling me.

Most of the time you're probably right, but not all the time.

Do you have the Apple care plan ($69), which I've found they tend to repair or replace your phone, pretty much no questions asked. I've had 2 3Gphones replaced, and one 3G repaired on the spot at the Genius Bar. Since you get the extra year of coverage, it may be worth it, but it seems strange they won't replace it. Maybe they will now since they claim the problem has been fixed with 4.1? May be worth making some noise at the store manager again.

I remember when I was originally brushed off with the antenna problem, but they were correct in sending me back to ATT, since my phone was still within the 30 day period. I did, incidentally, not only have the antenna issue constantly, but also the proximity issue, which I didn't initially recognize until others pointed out why my calls were dropping sometimes, which never happened with my 3G.

I'm still waiting for an antenna fix - I can afford to wait a little longer to see how the whole issue plays out vis-a-vis any announcement (or not) coming this month about the extension (or not) of the bumper issue. If they haven't fixed the antenna, then cancelling the bumper program will be a colosal, bonehead mistake, because folks will start reporting the antenna problem once again.

I've seen, and handled about 10 to 15 ip4's, and ALL were prone to the antenna issue - too bad, hope they just coat the damn thing, so we can move on.

Best of luck in getting your phone replaced/fixed. If you can't get it fixed, my suggestion is just to sell it on ebay - folks will buy it, even if you list potential problems you have - which amazed me when I was selling my 3G, and buying another 3GS - folks were buying them, regardless of broken screens, cracked cases, known speaker outages, etc, etc, so you can probably get enough to buy another one, and get it reactivated at ATT (who will gladly try to charge you a reactivation fee again, no doubt).
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Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post

Fine. I tried to be nice to the children here but what's the use. I should have said what I really thought.

G.O. A.W.A.Y.

You grate.
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Originally Posted by fluffylump View Post

I'm downloading for my Iphone 4.

The 590MB file is going to take about 70mins. And then my girlfriend has to download it again to the same computer.

Wouldn't be cool if iTunes looked to see if it already had the right .ipsw on my hard drive or on another hard drive on my homeLAN before downloading it from Apple's servers a second time. Even if it meant giving permission for this process in Sharing.

I get that different models have different .ipsws so, if we had different phones it wouldn't be a time saving.

You can, just hold down
Option key and it will let you choose a file instead.
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post #96 of 131
I was hoping they would enable HDR on my 3GS, but sadly, no. Just on the iPhone 4. Would be nice if they would at least give you the option. Sigh...
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Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post

Fine. I tried to be nice to the children here but what's the use. I should have said what I really thought.

Apple should be ashamed of themselves and their inability to execute anything.

Yes, Apple doesn't have the ability execute anything?! Apparently, they executed enough to get you to spend your money on their products! Would you like some cheese with that wine?
post #98 of 131
I agree with Pennywise. Although the 4.1 software update may fix the 3G (I can't say, because iTunes has been stuck displaying "Contacting the iPhone software update server..." for more than 20 minutes), Apple should never have released iOS 4 for the iPhone 3G if it wasn't ready for that phone.

It's been months that I've had a nearly unusable phone. I understand that this hasn't been the case for everyone, but for those who didn't experience it, please believe the ones who have suffered through endless waiting for a fix. With no official statement from Apple, we have felt like we were left twisting in the wind.

This is not how a company that prides itself on customer service and products that "just work" should operate.
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Originally Posted by storneo View Post

Yes, Apple doesn't have the ability execute anything?! Apparently, they executed enough to get you to spend your money on their products! Would you like some cheese with that wine?

No thanks. How would you like a hawaiin punch?

Respect you're elders or I'll send you to bed without you're apple pie. Fanboi.
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Originally Posted by Landnsea View Post

I agree with Pennywise. Although the 4.2 software update may fix the 3G (I can't say, because iTunes has been stuck displaying "Contacting the iPhone software update server..." for more than 20 minutes), Apple should never have released iOS 4 for the iPhone 3G if it wasn't ready for that phone.

It's been months that I've had a nearly unusable phone. I understand that this hasn't been the case for everyone, but for those who didn't experience it, please believe the ones who have suffered through endless waiting for a fix. With no official statement from Apple, we have felt like we were left twisting in the wind.

This is not how a company that prides itself on customer service and products that "just work" should operate.

I think you meant to say you agree with me since I said it first.
post #101 of 131
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Originally Posted by Bagman View Post

What do you mean by performance increase? Does it still take forever to load, which is a sign of bloatware (at least on my WinXP PC)? Thanks.

Hela fast now. Initial startup 4 seconds; subsequent about 1 second. (MBP, 4GB ram, 5200 songs [25 GB]).
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

G.O. A.W.A.Y.

You grate.

Your spell check must be turned off. You meant to say "you are great."
post #103 of 131
i downgraded to 3.x
NOW....should i upgrade to 4.1
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What does WOOT mean? Is that the sound a fanboi makes when he creams in his pants?

I bet I get another point for that one.
post #105 of 131
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Originally Posted by NOFEER View Post

i downgraded to 3.x
NOW....should i upgrade to 4.1

I wouldn't, not on day one.
post #106 of 131
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Originally Posted by fluffylump View Post

I'm downloading for my Iphone 4.

The 590MB file is going to take about 70mins. And then my girlfriend has to download it again to the same computer.

Wouldn't be cool if iTunes looked to see if it already had the right .ipsw on my hard drive or on another hard drive on my homeLAN before downloading it from Apple's servers a second time. Even if it meant giving permission for this process in Sharing.

I get that different models have different .ipsws so, if we had different phones it wouldn't be a time saving.

If you hit the option key while clicking restore you can choose a previously download ispw file
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post #107 of 131
I am new to Appleinsider forums..

Here is my report on 4.1

Proximity issue is fixed, at least improved significantly, haven't had any issues yet.

Love the HDR photos, and yes it is a bit slower.

Game centre should have facebook connection... Same as ping.

Bluetooth is working great

Once i plug my phone, the amount of time it takes to tether is reduced.

THANKS APPLE, IT WAS WORTH GIVING UP MY JAILBREAK...
post #108 of 131
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Originally Posted by Blackintosh View Post

Fine. I tried to be nice to the children here but what's the use. I should have said what I really thought. And here it is:

Oh! An update for the iPhone 3G? Well how nice. My old 3G has been hobbled for months and Apple has finally gotten off their collected asses and fixed their screw up? What, they finally got their A team off of the stupid Ping project and got them on something important, like fixing their flagship product?

Apple should be ashamed of themselves and their inability to execute anything.

I liked you better when you were playing nice with us, but I can't say that I don't agree with your true thoughts. I'm really glad that screw up (or screw over) is over.
post #109 of 131
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Originally Posted by JohnnyKrz View Post

If this is exactly the same as the GM, which I believe it would be, then the proximity sensor has not been fixed. In fact, I think it is a little worse than the 4.1 beta 3.

I noticed this too.

Running beta 3 I had no issues whatsoever with the proximity sensor but after going to the GM build the issue had returned. Having been through all of the previous betas I knew that when going to the GM build it is always best to restore but I couldn't be arsed this time.

The fix:
Now, rather than go through a full restore I just reset all settings and voila, the sensor is now working again. All I can assume is that the iPhone was holding onto a setting from the beta.

Hope this fixes it for you
post #110 of 131
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Originally Posted by Mr Underhill View Post

All done. Loving the HDR.

This iP4's camera capabilities are getting closer to those of my Sony compact for general snaps.

Looking good

It'll never be as good as long as the lens is the size of a pencil eraser. As Jobs likes to say "photons." You just can't gather enough of them for a good picture when the lens is so small. That's why cellphones will never replace pocket point and shoot cameras.
post #111 of 131
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

Lol. Millions of people used a broken device? I don't think so.

If yr device was broken, you should have returned it. Millions of people with a 'broken' device would have made one very large noise in the media.

Maybe they would have. I think "broken" is not so far off a description for the way it worked under iOS 4.0. I for one did not make a huge noise. If I had been asked, I would have said don't upgrade to 4.0. I researched the process for returning to 3.1 but decided that it was too risky. I trusted that Apple would fix it, but they did take too long. I also reasoned that I would soon buy an iPhone 4. I don't know if millions had upgraded and were just limping along with that defective version of the os, but there must have been quite a few people like me.
post #112 of 131
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Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post

Messages still get stuck in the Outbox when e-mailing photos.

Do you have two different gmail accounts set up in mail? Perhaps one for exchange and one for syncing notes? That's what caused that issue to happen for me. Deleting the IMAP (note syncing) gmail account fixed it for me. Exchange is good enough for me.
post #113 of 131
I think that I will stick to 3.1.3 on my iPhone 3G. I had to downgrade from 4.0 because we all know how 4.0 was awful on the 3G. So, until I see a few comparisons between 3.1.3 and 4.1, I won't upgrade. It is expected that 4.1 is better than 4.0, but it's really 4.1 vs 3.1.3 that really matters.

And please, spare me the "but 3G specs are not high enough to handle iOS4+." I mean come on, the only thing that the 3G got is the folders. Don't tell me the 3G is too old to handle that.

So let's wait and see how things go.

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post #114 of 131
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I think that I will stick to 3.1.3 on my iPhone 3G. I had to downgrade from 4.0 because we all know how 4.0 was awful on the 3G. So, until I see a few comparisons between 3.1.3 and 4.1, I won't upgrade. It is expected that 4.1 is better than 4.0, but it's really 4.1 vs 3.1.3 that really matters.

And please, spare me the "but 3G specs are not high enough to handle iOS4+." I mean come on, the only thing that the 3G got is the folders. Don't tell me the 3G is too old to handle that.

So let's wait and see how things go.

Yeah, unless you have too many apps to fit on the pages, the folders are a pain - just creates an extra step to open up and select the one you want. I don't need the folders, as it takes no time at all to scroll over to the screen you want and activate it directly, plus you get to see the app itself, not some made-up name for a folder, which you will have to memorize to know which apps are inside - I find it needless fluff. Also, if you don't use multi-tasking that much, if at all (I rarely do), then the whole update from 3.1.3 is pretty much a waste of time for 3G, unless I'm forgetting something.
post #115 of 131
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Yeah, unless you have too many apps to fit on the pages, the folders are a pain - just creates an extra step to open up and select the one you want. I don't need the folders, as it takes no time at all to scroll over to the screen you want and activate it directly, plus you get to see the app itself, not some made-up name for a folder, which you will have to memorize to know which apps are inside - I find it needless fluff. Also, if you don't use multi-tasking that much, if at all (I rarely do), then the whole update from 3.1.3 is pretty much a waste of time for 3G, unless I'm forgetting something.

Yes, I too have found that the folders can be a pain, especially if I don't use some of the apps for a couple of weeks and forget where I put them. (I like flipping through the various screens on my iPad, and may leave it as is - i.e., no folders - even after the promised software update).

Similarly, I have used multitasking all of once or twice, despite thinking that it might be a highly useful feature.

Remember when folks were (for the record, I wasn't one) screaming for both features, and going on about how backward Apple was to be not offering it?
post #116 of 131
upgraded today after having proximity sensor issues since day one with my iPhone 4.

The display STILL comes on unexpectedly, and my cheek will inadvertently depress the "Mute" button, and the caller is saying "hello? can you hear me?"

I thought this was suposed to be addressed and fixed in 4.1. What now?
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post #117 of 131
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Please somebody - is it snappy on 3g?

Yes it is.
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It has also fixed my scrolling on my 3Gs, which used to freeze constantly.
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@Bagman @anantksundaram Multitask on a 3G? How did you guys manage that?

I totally agree with you. I prefer the scrolling. and my Spotlight only searches for Apps. So if I'm lazy and don't want to scroll, 3 letters are enough.

So I think that I'll stick to 3.1.3 on my 3G unless there is a huge security threat that I can't avoid or all the reviews says that it's worth it because 4.1 is comparable to 3.1.3

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post #120 of 131
My Appointments now display in purple, before they were blue.

Anybody else had this?
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