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The head of Nokia's smartphone business announced Monday that he will leave the company, a revelation that came just days after the company's chief executive announced he would resign, as the Finnish handset maker struggles to compete with Apple's iPhone.

Anssi Vanjoki, head of the mobile solutions unit at Nokia, announced Monday that he will resign from the company. Vanjoki will remain in his current position for the time being, and has a six-month notice period.

"I felt the time has come to seek new opportunities in my life," Vanjoki said in a press release. "At the same time, I am 100 percent committed to doing my best for Nokia until my very last working day. I am also really looking forward to this year's Nokia World and sharing news about exciting new devices and solutions."

The announcement comes just three days after Nokia's CEO, Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo, announced that he will leave the company later this month. The new chief executive will be Stephen Elop, head of Microsoft's business division.

Nokia's executive-level shakeup comes as the company has failed to successfully compete with Apple's iPhone. Though Nokia remains the dominant handset maker worldwide, the company has lost share and profits as competitors like the iPhone and smartphones based on the Google Android operating system have taken off.

The company hopes its fortunes will turn this week at its Nokia World event in London, where it will present its latest smartphone lineup, including the Nokia N8. The company is also prepared to launch updated versions of its mobile operating systems, Symbian and MeeGo.
post #2 of 85
Burn the mast. Fire the chef.
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The head of Nokia's smartphone business announced Monday that he will leave the company, a revelation that came just days after the company's chief executive announced he would resign, as the Finnish handset maker struggles to compete with Apple's iPhone.

It looks to me like Nokia is cleaning house. From the top down. I expect the new guys to bring in whole teams of new execs.

Likely it will be a VERY different company a year from now.
post #4 of 85
He probably expected to be named CEO. He got pissed and resigned rather than answer to a Canadian..
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Likely it will be a VERY different company a year from now.

You got that right!

I do hope they have enough lifeboats this time.

C.
post #6 of 85
Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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Kind of throws more than a little cold water on the recent Gartner "predictions", with Nokia in such disarray. Who knows what they'll be doing in 2014. Maybe making rubber boots again.
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Kind of throws more than a little cold water on the recent Gartner "predictions", with Nokia in such disarray. Who knows what they'll be doing in 2014. Maybe making rubber boots again.

Yep. I agree that it will be a VERY different company in the future!
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The head of Nokia's smartphone business announced Monday that he will leave the company, a revelation that came just days after the company's chief executive announced he would resign, as the Finnish handset maker struggles to compete with Apple's iPhone.

is doing the whole "Abandon ship!" thing
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It looks to me like Nokia is cleaning house. From the top down. I expect the new guys to bring in whole teams of new execs.

Not really, if they were cleaning house, he would no longer be working there.
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is doing the whole "Abandon ship!" thing

Apparently, all the women and children resigned last month.

C.
post #12 of 85
Prediction, all the position will be filled with people who are somehow related to Microsoft and then in the next 12 to 18 months you will see all their smart phones having Microsoft Mobile 7 on them.

This is the only way MS is going to get their OS back into the market place, this or they would buy RIM which is still a distinct possibility, however, it looks like MS got their hands into Nokia's board and the firing has begun.
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Prediction, all the position will be filled with people who are somehow related to Microsoft and then in the next 12 to 18 months you will see all their smart phones having Microsoft Mobile 7 on them.

This is the only way MS is going to get their OS back into the market place, this or they would by RIM which is still a distinct possibility, however, it looks like MS got their hands into Nokia's board and the firing has begun.

I too wonder what this means for the future of Meego.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them make handsets with WM7 or Android. If they abandon Meego that's a pretty big loss for Intel.
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Prediction, all the position will be filled with people who are somehow related to Microsoft and then in the next 12 to 18 months you will see all their smart phones having Microsoft Mobile 7 on them.

Did you read the rest of his CV, he was only at MS for two years. Maybe he is going to fill it with Adobe or Juniper people, most likely neither
post #15 of 85
But I though Nokia was doing great with their millions of "smart phone" sales and market share
post #16 of 85
Guess Nokia won't be around to live up to their in-car phone appearance in Star Trek.

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Prediction, all the position will be filled with people who are somehow related to Microsoft and then in the next 12 to 18 months you will see all their smart phones having Microsoft Mobile 7 on them.

Not going to happen with Microsoft's current licensing scheme. Nokia is selling around 100 million smartphones a year and that number is increasing at 40%+ YoY. At $15 per license, using Windows Phone 7 would cost Nokia at least $1.5 billion a year.

I'd wager that $1.5 billion is significantly above what Symbian and MeeGo cost to produce.
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No really, if they were cleaning house, he would no longer be working there.

They might not have anyone to replace him with now.
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Not going to happen with Microsoft's current licensing scheme. Nokia is selling around 100 million smartphones a year and that number is increasing at 40%+ YoY. At $15 per license, using Windows Phone 7 would cost Nokia at least $1.5 billion a year.

I'd wager that $1.5 billion is significantly above what Symbian and MeeGo cost to produce.

You guys do not understand how backroom deal work. Even though the new CEO was only at MS a short period of time this could be MS foot in the doors since no other company except HTC has agreed to work with MS going forward. What make you think MS would make them pay licensing fees, they may give it to them to get market penetration, hell they are paying develop to make programs for Zune and the Mobile 7 software.

I can also tell you I worked for a company who use MS product like many other companies for desktops and enterprise systems and we also sold products which offered MS product. MS struck a deal in the desktop and enterprise space so we would offer their products in our product. When we made the decision to move away from MS in our product they whacked us on the corporate side as payback for going away from them. This is how MS does business. Even if there were fees you would pay for them not the company since the company would just pass them along to the consumer.
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You guys do not understand how backroom deal work. Even though the new CEO was only at MS a short period of time this could be MS foot in the doors since no other company except HTC has agreed to work with MS going forward. What make you think MS would make them pay licensing fees, they may give it to them to get market penetration, hell they are paying develop to make programs for Zune and the Mobile 7 software.

I was at a mobile developer conf recently. The rumor there was that Microsoft had actually paid some manufacturers to take Windows Mobile.

It was just scurrilous gossip, but I thought it was quite good scurrilous gossip.

C.
post #21 of 85
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Not going to happen with Microsoft's current licensing scheme. Nokia is selling around 100 million smartphones a year and that number is increasing at 40%+ YoY. At $15 per license, using Windows Phone 7 would cost Nokia at least $1.5 billion a year.

I'd wager that $1.5 billion is significantly above what Symbian and MeeGo cost to produce.

It's more like $7 per license. It's been $15 for Windows XP Starter for netbooks.
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You guys do not understand how backroom deal work. Even though the new CEO was only at MS a short period of time this could be MS foot in the doors since no other company except HTC has agreed to work with MS going forward. What make you think MS would make them pay licensing fees, they may give it to them to get market penetration, hell they are paying develop to make programs for Zune and the Mobile 7 software.

I can also tell you I worked for a company who use MS product like many other companies for desktops and enterprise systems and we also sold products which offered MS product. MS struck a deal in the desktop and enterprise space so we would offer their products in our product. When we made the decision to move away from MS in our product they whacked us on the corporate side as payback for going away from them. This is how MS does business. Even if their were fees you would pay for them not the company since the company would just pass them along to the consumer.

So far, Dell, HTC, LG and Samsung have committed to making WP7 phones. There are others, whose names elude me at the moment.
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So far, Dell, HTC, LG and Samsung have committed to making WP7 phones. There are others, whose names elude me at the moment.

Apparently their names elude Microsoft too.

C.
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You got that right!

I do hope they have enough lifeboats this time.

C.

Excellent comment!
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Apparently their names elude Microsoft too.

C.

Not really that funny.
post #26 of 85
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No really, if they were cleaning house, he would no longer be working there.

Correct!
post #27 of 85
Wasn't there another shakeup earlier this year in Nokia? I recall reading the article here
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Wasn't there another shakeup earlier this year in Nokia? I recall reading the article here

Yeah - It had a funny name. I think it was Finnish phrase which translated as "Reorganizing the deck chairs"

C.
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So far, Dell, HTC, LG and Samsung have committed to making WP7 phones. There are others, whose names elude me at the moment.

Let get this right, those companies make Hardware and will load any one's software on their product they like.

Dell is a non player, they are only selling in South America, why all the US carries told them to get lost.

Next, in all cases except Apple, the caries dictate which phones they will seen on their networks and support (yes you can put any GSM SIM card enable phone on any carries but they they do not support it) and they also dictate which software is allow. This why not every android phone does not have the same version because each service provide tells the phone manufacturers what they will load on their phone.

Apple is the only cell phone company in the world who dictated exactly what the phone will do and every phone in the world no matter who the provider is can update their phone at the same time. Apple change the cell phone industry in this regard.

I am beating MS is going to make the same attempt with Nokia here, Nokia has a very large presents world wide expect in the US, but MS use to have a good relationship with the US providers so they may leverage this to get Nokia back in to the US markets.

I am not saying they will be successful, so do not read that in to my prediction, since again they all fail to understand why apple business model works and all the other one are failing at this time.
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They might not have anyone to replace him with now.

You claimed that you have owned businesses before, do you really think a corporation would sack a exec and leave them working in their position? No they wouldn't.

Let's use an example, is Papermaster serving out his term at Apple?
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You claimed that you have owned businesses before, do you really think a corporation would sack a exec and leave them working in their position? No they wouldn't.

Let's use an example, is Papermaster serving out his term at Apple?

I guess you missed this:

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Anssi Vanjoki, head of the mobile solutions unit at Nokia, announced Monday that he will resign from the company. Vanjoki will remain in his current position for the time being, and has a six-month notice period.

It is not as simple as walking out whenever you want.
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I guess you missed this:

No I read that, I take that to mean he is leaving of his own choice, and he isn't going to work for a competitor.

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It is not as simple as walking out whenever you want.

Yes it is, in the UK there is a term for it, Garden Leave, other countries have a similar term. If he was sacked he would no longer be working there, end of story.
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No I read that, I take that to mean he is leaving of his own choice, and he isn't going to work for a competitor.

In many cases employees are asked to resign or hinted that if they don't resign they will be fired. The majority choose to resign. Given the timing and the CEO firing I would say he was asked to resign.

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Yes it is, in the UK there is a term for it, Garden Leave, other countries have a similar term. If he was sacked he would no longer be working there, end of story.

He doesn't work in the UK and while you are in Finland maybe you can tell us about laws in Finland not in the UK.

PS: From Wikipedia, Garden Leave is not the employee choice. It is when the employee is "instructed to stay away from work during their notice period". So it is still not walking out whenever you want.
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In many cases employees are asked to resign or hinted that if they don't resign they will be fired. The majority choose to resign. Given the timing and the CEO firing I would say he was asked to resign.

In either case he would no longer be working there, if he was asked to leave, and he is still working there then Nokia are idiots, he would be at home on full pay for the rest of his term.


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He doesn't work in the UK and while you are in Finland maybe you can tell us about laws in Finland not in the UK.

I said there is a term for it, do you have a problem with reading?

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PS: From Wikipedia, Garden Leave is not the employee choice. It is when the employee is "instructed to stay away from work during their notice period". So it is still not walking out whenever you want.

If he resigned and was going to a competitor, or had "issues" with the company, then the Company could also invoke this, or something similar. Hence the "not the employee choice" bit, it is not restricted to be sacked.
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In either case he would no longer be working there, if he was asked to leave, and he is still working there then Nokia are idiots, he would be at home on full pay for the rest of his term.

Haven't you heard about handover?!


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I said there is a term for it, do you have a problem with reading?

I didn't ask you about a term. I said you can't just walk out whenever you want. You still wrong because Garden Leave is not walking out whenever you want. You seem to have problem comprehending what you read.
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Haven't you heard about handover?!

Yes I have, but if he has been forced to leave then he is a risk to the company, that is a bigger issue than a "handover".


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I didn't ask you about a term. I said you can't just walk out whenever you want. You still wrong because Garden Leave is not walking out whenever you want. You seem to have problem comprehending what you read.

You can actually, I have done it in the past, got paid out my full term as well. Circumstances dictate what happens, and as you and I don't know the circumstances neither of us can say what has happened.

I have no issue comprehending what I read, I didn't look up the term from wikipedia like you, as I was aware of the term, and have seen it been used on others previously. I stated the term in a situation, if you have issues understanding it, that is not my problem.

But from previous experience, I know when an exec has left, and the leaving is due to conflict with the company (either side initiated) then they will leave that day, not at the end of their term.
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Prediction, all the position will be filled with people who are somehow related to Microsoft and then in the next 12 to 18 months you will see all their smart phones having Microsoft Mobile 7 on them.

Yes that or they will switch to Android and become the largest Android distributor. Reduce OS development costs. Avoid OS licensing costs. Android's market share would skyrocket. Google would get a nice boost in profits. Schmidt might get more arrogant lol.
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It's more like $7 per license. It's been $15 for Windows XP Starter for netbooks.

What's the source for that? The general consensus is that the fee is $15. It was certainly $15 for Windows Mobile 6.5.
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@appdev
<you will see all their smart phones having Microsoft Mobile 7 on them.>

and then oracle will charge out of the woods and give google and android a kneecapping.
post #40 of 85
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Originally Posted by Maestro64 View Post

Let get this right, those companies make Hardware and will load any one's software on their product they like.

Dell is a non player, they are only selling in South America, why all the US carries told them to get lost.

Next, in all cases except Apple, the caries dictate which phones they will seen on their networks and support (yes you can put any GSM SIM card enable phone on any carries but they they do not support it) and they also dictate which software is allow. This why not every android phone does not have the same version because each service provide tells the phone manufacturers what they will load on their phone.

Apple is the only cell phone company in the world who dictated exactly what the phone will do and every phone in the world no matter who the provider is can update their phone at the same time. Apple change the cell phone industry in this regard.

I am beating MS is going to make the same attempt with Nokia here, Nokia has a very large presents world wide expect in the US, but MS use to have a good relationship with the US providers so they may leverage this to get Nokia back in to the US markets.

I am not saying they will be successful, so do not read that in to my prediction, since again they all fail to understand why apple business model works and all the other one are failing at this time.

Maybe you should edit this again? It's confusing. I think I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure.
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