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Apple on Tuesday officially debunked a story from a Japanese tabloid that claimed Steve Jobs was stopped in an airport after he attempted to bring Ninja throwing stars onto a plane.

Update: After the story gained attention Tuesday, Apple gave an official comment to John Paczkowski of Digital Daily, dispelling the tale as false.

Steve did visit Japan this summer for a vacation in Kyoto, but the incidents described at the airport are pure fiction," the statement reads. "Steve had a great time and hopes to visit Japan again soon.

In the original story from Bloomberg, Japan's SPA! Magazine reported that Jobs was the subject of a security scan at Kansai International Airport in July as he was returning home from a family vacation on his own private jet. The executive was allegedly stopped because he had throwing stars in his carry-on luggage.

"Jobs said it wouldn't make sense for a person to try to hijack his own plane, according to the report," the translation reads. "He then told officials he would never visit Japan again, the magazine reported. Apple declined to comment."

Lending some credibility to the story was the fact that a spokesperson for the airport did confirm that a passenger traveling on a private jet was stopped at the end of July for carrying "shuriken," which is the Japanese word for throwing stars. The passenger reportedly agreed to throw away the weapons, as the airport does not have separate security policies for flyers on a private jet.

But Apple's comment would suggest that the incident involved someone other than the chief executive.

As a multi-billionaire and one of the most famous executives in the world, Jobs' activities in public are often publicized, though reports are typically more mundane than the tall tale from a Japanese airport.

In August, a photo of Jobs was snapped as he left a popular San Francisco, Calif., restaurant, where he couldn't get a seat because he didn't have a reservation. And in March, he and Google CEO Eric Schmidt were spotted drinking coffee together in Palo Alto, Calif.
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Ninja stars? I thought Steve was a pirate
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I'm taking my stars and going home and you're never going to see me again. I'm putting my foot down! Take that. So there. Waaah.

Why is the whining of some spoiled multi-billionaire brat news? Must've been a slow night, eh AI?
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I can't imagine an executive of a high tech company would say they were never going to visit Japan again - important market that one.

The not bringing the stars on a plane sounds perfectly fair to me though. It's not that he wouldn't try to hijack his own plane, but once they are through security and air-side, there is no reason why they couldn't be either handed to someone else getting on another plane or even stolen. I'm not saying Jobs would do that, but the security people can't differentiate and it's unlikely they would allow a security hole as simple as to allow weapons to get air-side as long as they are brought through security for private flights.
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A rule is a rule, Steve.
And thankfully you are not a "Star".


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Ninja stars? I thought Steve was a pirate

Pirates do not use sneakers.
He is a ninja!
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I'm taking my stars and going home and you're never going to see me again. I'm putting my foot down! Take that. So there. Waaah.

Why is the whining of some spoiled multi-billionaire news? Must've been a slow night, eh AI?

It's the principle of the thing. It's his own plane, and like he said, what sense does it make for him to hijack his own plane?

OTOH, I can see the precedent being set for future incidents. If Steve Jobs is allowed to carry shuriken on board his own plane, they have no right to stop another billionaire doing the same thing who is crazy enough to bring a plane down. (Steve Ballmer? Or was that just too cold?)
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LOL This is a story so stupid I think it has to be true¡ Ninja throwing stars? Aren’t they just pieces of metal that are shaped like “stars” with pointy tips? Something he could get shipped if he really wanted them? Saying you’ll never visit an entire country again over that is very extreme, not mention not going to work with those whose job it is to prevent whatever items from leaving the country or going on private jets. “Oh, you’ll never return here. Now that you’ve said that we’ll surely let you have them, just please come back to Japan.”

Anyway, more importantly is why was Jobs in Japan? Was he visiting NTT DoCoMo, the carrier that can use that 5th and undocumented UMTS band in the iPhone 4. Let’s get it on!


PS: If silly Ninja weapons are that important to Steve I’d have LiquidMetal make an entire arsenal of super strong and thin weapons for me.
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Unless they are illegal to export, why didn't he just put it into the luggage hold? Smells like a phony story.
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It's the principle of the thing. It's his own plane, and like he said, what sense does it make for him to hijack his own plane?

OTOH, I can see the precedent being set for future incidents. If Steve Jobs is allowed to carry shuriken on board his own plane, they have no right to stop another billionaire doing the same thing who is crazy enough to bring a plane down. (Steve Ballmer? Or was that just too cold?)

Wait. I hear the waaahmbulance siren screaming as it rushes to the airport from the mental institution. Poor little billionaires, not getting what they want, when they want it, so they go & have themselves a little hissy fit.

I'm just surprised that when he couldn't get his way, he didn't immediately throw himself to the floor and start pounding his fists and kicking his little feet. Japan and Adobe, I hate both of you! Boo hoo.

Absolutely adorable little princess.
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"Don't bring weapons on a plane. No big deal"
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Unless they are illegal to export, why didn't he just put it into the luggage hold? Smells like a phony story.

Smells like a phony story?

"... Meanwhile, another billionaire passenger was allowed to keep the used panties he had picked up at a vending machine in Tokyo after rubbing himself against schoolgirls on the subway."

Now that smells like a phony story. Gotta love parts of the Japanese culture - and now their airport security is a idiotic as ours!
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I can't imagine an executive of a high tech company would say they were never going to visit Japan again - important market that one.

The not bringing the stars on a plane sounds perfectly fair to me though. It's not that he wouldn't try to hijack his own plane, but once they are through security and air-side, there is no reason why they couldn't be either handed to someone else getting on another plane or even stolen. I'm not saying Jobs would do that, but the security people can't differentiate and it's unlikely they would allow a security hole as simple as to allow weapons to get air-side as long as they are brought through security for private flights.

Not buying any of this story. You can put just about anything you want in checked baggage, or have it mailed to yourself. I doubt very much he wouldn't have been given options of these kind, especially since a private jet isn't exactly going to leave without you.

This story stinks of Yellow Journalism.
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Seriously? It's a private jet!!!! He should be able to bring throwing stars onto his own private jet...c'mon peeps this is stupid.
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Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post

I can't imagine an executive of a high tech company would say they were never going to visit Japan again - important market that one.

The not bringing the stars on a plane sounds perfectly fair to me though. It's not that he wouldn't try to hijack his own plane, but once they are through security and air-side, there is no reason why they couldn't be either handed to someone else getting on another plane or even stolen. I'm not saying Jobs would do that, but the security people can't differentiate and it's unlikely they would allow a security hole as simple as to allow weapons to get air-side as long as they are brought through security for private flights.

Your explanation makes perfect sense. The article said he was going through the regular security, and not some sort of exclusive boutique with special rules for rich people.
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Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post

I can't imagine an executive of a high tech company would say they were never going to visit Japan again - important market that one.

The not bringing the stars on a plane sounds perfectly fair to me though. It's not that he wouldn't try to hijack his own plane, but once they are through security and air-side, there is no reason why they couldn't be either handed to someone else getting on another plane or even stolen. I'm not saying Jobs would do that, but the security people can't differentiate and it's unlikely they would allow a security hole as simple as to allow weapons to get air-side as long as they are brought through security for private flights.

They should have separate security for private jets...what the hell would they be protecting? Obama recently visited my city...I'm pretty sure he didn't go through regular security...LOL
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I call bullshit on the part where he said he'd never visit Japan again. I like the part where they said he "threw" them away, lol.

In all seriousness though, even if it's his own plane transporting ninja stars is probably illegal via airport. Not that we all did try it at one point coming back from somewhere like Spain.
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He's gonna have to use a different weapon to kill Eric.
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LOL This is a story so stupid I think it has to be true. Ninja throwing stars? Aren’t they just pieces of metal that are shaped like “stars” with pointy tips? Something he could get shipped if he really wanted them? Saying you’ll never visit an entire country again over that is very extreme, not mention not going to work with those whose job it is to prevent whatever items from leaving the country or going on private jets. “Oh, you’ll never return here. Now that you’ve said that we’ll surely let you have them, just please come back to Japan.”

Anyway, more importantly is why was Jobs in Japan? Was he visiting NTT DoCoMo, the carrier that can use that 5th and undocumented UMTS band in the iPhone 4. Let’s get it on!


PS: If silly Ninja weapons are that important to Steve I’d have LiquidMetal make an entire arsenal of super strong and thin weapons for me.

Family vacation. Article says it in the second paragraph.
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This story stinks of Yellow Journalism.

You didn't just say that about a Japanese story did you?
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It's not that he wouldn't try to hijack his own plane, but once they are through security and air-side, there is no reason why they couldn't be either handed to someone else getting on another plane or even stolen. I'm not saying Jobs would do that, but the security people can't differentiate and it's unlikely they would allow a security hole as simple as to allow weapons to get air-side as long as they are brought through security for private flights.

Absolutely correct but I wonder whether the notion of checked luggage exists with private jets. If it is your own private jet, you probably can take anything out of your 'checked luggage' again once you are on board.
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Absolutely correct but I wonder whether the notion of checked luggage exists with private jets.

Well there's a story about it, so I'd guess it exists.
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Steve to security guy: "You're holding it wrong."
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I can't imagine an executive of a high tech company would say they were never going to visit Japan again - important market that one.

The not bringing the stars on a plane sounds perfectly fair to me though. It's not that he wouldn't try to hijack his own plane, but once they are through security and air-side, there is no reason why they couldn't be either handed to someone else getting on another plane or even stolen. I'm not saying Jobs would do that, but the security people can't differentiate and it's unlikely they would allow a security hole as simple as to allow weapons to get air-side as long as they are brought through security for private flights.

Great explanation and point of view.......
Also saying I won't ever come back now that you won't let me have my way sounds just like a spoiled billionaire that is always used to getting his way....Maybe he won't sell Apple products in Japan now! :-) No Apple for you!!!!

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He's gonna have to use a different weapon to kill Eric.

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Great explanation and point of view.......
Also saying I won't ever come back now that you won't let me have my way sounds just like a spoiled billionaire that is always used to getting his way....Maybe he won't sell Apple products in Japan now! :-) No Apple for you!!!!

Rest assured that part isn't true.
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They should have separate security for private jets...what the hell would they be protecting? Obama recently visited my city...I'm pretty sure he didn't go through regular security...LOL

Well...the only difference is that Obama is the PRESIDENT and Jobs is just a spoiled billionaire..........

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Absolutely correct but I wonder whether the notion of checked luggage exists with private jets. If it is your own private jet, you probably can take anything out of your 'checked luggage' again once you are on board.

I've been lucky enough to fly on private planes a few times and there is checked luggage.
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They should have separate security for private jets...what the hell would they be protecting? Obama recently visited my city...I'm pretty sure he didn't go through regular security...LOL

Most airports do have separate security for private planes (it's normally called the General Aviation Terminal at airports), but that doesn't change the fact that the rules are, zero weapons air-side. Again, at most airports it's possible to clear security in the General Aviation Terminal, then goto the regular terminal, where you could if you wanted to, hand anything to another passenger.

The rule is simple and clear. No matter how you get there, there are no dangerous items to be on your possession air-side at an airport.
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Wait. I hear the waaahmbulance siren screaming as it rushes to the airport from the mental institution. Poor little billionaires, not getting what they want, when they want it, so they go & have themselves a little hissy fit.

I'm just surprised that when he couldn't get his way, he didn't immediately throw himself to the floor and start pounding his fists and kicking his little feet. Japan and Adobe, I hate both of you! Boo hoo.

Absolutely adorable little princess.

The fact is, though, that he didn't throw himself to the floor and all the rest you describe. So your surprise is probably more reflective of your own shortcomings, not his. Thanks for elevating the discussion, though. There's always a few trolls in every group.

Personally, I can see both sides of it. Most of the security rules like this are in place to stop people from committing acts of violence against innocent strangers on commercial flights. It's not like a guy is going to hijack his own plane (there are other potentially scary things a guy can do with his own plane, but obviously stopping a man from carrying pointy metal objects doesn't prevent any of those). So you could see the owner of a private jet being flabbergasted that they'd apply those rules to him.

The airport on the other hand, doesn't have a separate policy for private vs commercial jets. I wonder if other airports do? At any rate, the airport's rule has got to supervene in the end. It's fair to insist a rule be applied uniformly as intended. But sometimes 'fair' is kind of wrong-headed, too.

Like none of you has ever had an outburst.
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Wait. I hear the waaahmbulance siren screaming as it rushes to the airport from the mental institution. Poor little billionaires, not getting what they want, when they want it, so they go & have themselves a little hissy fit.

I'm just surprised that when he couldn't get his way, he didn't immediately throw himself to the floor and start pounding his fists and kicking his little feet. Japan and Adobe, I hate both of you! Boo hoo.

Absolutely adorable little princess.

Jealous much?


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Like none of you has ever had an outburst.

Indeed. Baby 'Matt' is having one right now. Waaaaaaaaaaah, I'm not a billionaire!
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Maybe he won't sell Apple products in Japan now! :-) No Apple for you!!!!

That's not ambitious enough for Steve. He would deliberately sell them lots of products to let the weirdness of the Internet in, and mess with their uptight culture. Then return in glory 10 years later and get waived through customs with a machine gun. "I told you to let me take the ninja stars."
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Personally, I can see both sides of it. Most of the security rules like this are in place to stop people from committing acts of violence against innocent strangers on commercial flights. It's not like a guy is going to hijack his own plane (there are other potentially scary things a guy can do with his own plane, but obviously stopping a man from carrying pointy metal objects doesn't prevent any of those). So you could see the owner of a private jet being flabbergasted that they'd apply those rules to him.

The airport on the other hand, doesn't have a separate policy for private vs commercial jets. I wonder if other airports do? At any rate, the airport's rule has got to supervene in the end. It's fair to insist a rule be applied uniformly as intended. But sometimes 'fair' is kind of wrong-headed, too.

You make some very good points. Executives can get as pissy as they want that the rules apply to them the same as everyone else, but there is little doubt that Bin Laden could afford a private jet. Should he be allowed to send someone through security with weapons because they are getting onto a private jet, only to have that person hand the weapons onto someone else who's getting onto a commercial jet?
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Also saying I won't ever come back now that you won't let me have my way sounds just like a spoiled billionaire that is always used to getting his way...

Come on. Grow up. Like it's only billionaires who have outbursts. Are you a tranquilized chinchilla?
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I've been lucky enough to fly on private planes a few times and there is checked luggage.

I've flown on private planes and there wasn't checked luggage other than as a convenience measure for passengers by the flight crew. More important, luggage that is truly "checked" is x-rayed and can't be accessible by passengers until outside of security at the destination airport. There's no way that can be assured on a private aircraft.

Regardless, Japan has the right to implement any air security procedure they want whether Jobs likes it or not.

Lastly, why is this even making news on AI? Especially since Jobs was on vacation, this has nothing to do with Apple or any products they sell or might sell.
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The fact is, though, that he didn't throw himself to the floor and all the rest you describe. So your surprise is probably more reflective of your own shortcomings, not his. Thanks for elevating the discussion, though. There's always a few trolls in every group.

Personally, I can see both sides of it. Most of the security rules like this are in place to stop people from committing acts of violence against innocent strangers on commercial flights. It's not like a guy is going to hijack his own plane (there are other potentially scary things a guy can do with his own plane, but obviously stopping a man from carrying pointy metal objects doesn't prevent any of those). So you could see the owner of a private jet being flabbergasted that they'd apply those rules to him.

The airport on the other hand, doesn't have a separate policy for private vs commercial jets. I wonder if other airports do? At any rate, the airport's rule has got to supervene in the end. It's fair to insist a rule be applied uniformly as intended. But sometimes 'fair' is kind of wrong-headed, too.

Like none of you has ever had an outburst.

But the rational response from a billionaire CEO of a huge company like Apple should have been gracious and understanding. He could have had an assistant either put the ninja stars in checked baggage or simply order more and have then delivered to his doorstep....

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Steve to security guy: "You're holding it wrong."

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I can't imagine an executive of a high tech company would say they were never going to visit Japan again - important market that one.

The not bringing the stars on a plane sounds perfectly fair to me though. It's not that he wouldn't try to hijack his own plane, but once they are through security and air-side, there is no reason why they couldn't be either handed to someone else getting on another plane or even stolen. I'm not saying Jobs would do that, but the security people can't differentiate and it's unlikely they would allow a security hole as simple as to allow weapons to get air-side as long as they are brought through security for private flights.

I guess you've never been on a private jet - you generally don't go through the normal terminals, but a separate small building elsewhere on the airport grounds.
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Unless they are illegal to export, why didn't he just put it into the luggage hold? Smells like a phony story.

Yes I thought the same. Not that I couldn't imagine Steve Jobs doing some stupid things here and there (don't we all), but this sounds rather like the whining of a 5 year old prat.
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Come on. Grow up. Like it's only billionaires who have outbursts. Are you a tranquilized chinchilla?

This is someone who handles adversity everyday. Who manages a very large corporation.....he is used to conflicting advice and heated politically charged environments.
He should have handled it better than saying I'm not coming back to your country now that you won't let me have my way....
So stop attacking me personally and stick to the subject.......

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