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post #41 of 84
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

Great article guys.

Let me just ask for everyone's understanding whilst I use caps for a few words:

THE NEW SOFTWARE ORIENTATION LOCK IS A COLOSSALLY STUPID MOVE BY APPLE.

Thanks for letting me take it off my chest.

Hey apple software engineers please get it:

The mute button is there on a phone for a very good reason, quick mute for calls, there isn't any reason to be there on an ipad, you are almost never going to quickly need to mute the device.

Even if you do need that on such a rare occasion, there's a way to do it, just one second on the lower volume button.

The screen lock physical button it's a essential, there are users such as myself that use it very, very often, I literally use it sometimes a few times within an hour. People need a button, to see if it's lock or not, to feel the button and do it with one click instead of double clicking the main ipad button then choosing lock screen then going back to their application.

It's an inexplicably stupid decision to change this. You can already mute by holding the volume for less than a sec or a for second or so. Why do you need to use another (very, very useful button or even an indispensable one for screen lock) button to do the very same thing. So essentially you 'll have two buttons sharing functionality in a device that only has three buttons? How dumb is that? Two of the three control buttons controlling sound on a device that isn't primarily an ipod but a browser/reader/photos/apps/video device. Why? Oh Why? A dedicated mute on a device that isn't a phone to ring and bother you when you don't want it to?

And a word to the Stevster: You said it first Steve, you aren't perfect, you are close in terms of tech, but you are not perfect. Recent case in point the inexplicable washing out of all colour in itunes sidebar that makes it virtually impossible to navigate it for anyone without the eyes of an 18 year old. Going counter every neuroscience study on human perception (hint:colour and pictures far quicker to distinguish quickly than grey and words) and counter to even apple's own human interface guidelines. Hear again with this choice you are making a bad move. Change it.


Please everyone send apple feedback on this, they will have to listen.


Chill out. This is a beta. They might have based this beta on a very early build of iOS 3.2 where the switch was used to mute. Apple did that before but they came back and fixed it in the next betas. This beta is still not ready for release... Even MobileMe push email is not working. Give it some time.
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post #43 of 84
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Oh, you mean the current cameraless iPad? Yeah, I can certainly see how current iPad owners will find a physical mute button useful for FaceTime...

The physical switch should be user-configurable. That way everyone is happy.


Oh, I guess that you've decided that the iPad is what it is... And will never be enhanced-- then, of course, you're right.

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post #44 of 84
Quick access to brightness controls is AWESOME.

Can anyone confirm if the lowest brightness setting is much lower than currently? That would be essential, right now it's way too bright even on the lowest setting if you are in a dark room. If anyone can report back on 4.2 that would be great.
post #45 of 84
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We Apple fans are a strange bunch.\

It can be really bizarre, sometimes. And yet I am still hooked on these forums. I rarely Facebook and don't Twitter nowadays or follow many other forums.
post #46 of 84
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Quick access to brightness controls is AWESOME.

Can anyone confirm if the lowest brightness setting is much lower than currently? That would be essential, right now it's way too bright even on the lowest setting if you are in a dark room. If anyone can report back on 4.2 that would be great.

seems about the same...

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post #47 of 84
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Originally Posted by VulpesRex View Post

Oh, you mean the current cameraless iPad? Yeah, I can certainly see how current iPad owners will find a physical mute button useful for FaceTime...

The physical switch should be user-configurable. That way everyone is happy.

How about pushing the button once for mute, twice for screen lock.
post #48 of 84
Anyone know where I could get those iPad backgrounds? Are they included in 4.2?
post #49 of 84
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New Notes Preferences
Like iOS 4.2 for the iPhone, Apple has added a Notes preference pane that lets users choose between Chalkboard, Helvetica, and Marker Felt for their notes fonts. It also lets users set a default email account to which new notes can be tied.[/url][/c]

This is waayy overdue, I hate the current Notes font - to me it's difficult to read. Thank goodness I will be able to use a more legible sans-serif Helvetica font. Clean sans-serifs are easier to read on computers and mobile devices than these more fancy fonts. Surprised since it's Apple they didn't also add the Geneva font, but it is a wider font.
post #50 of 84
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Originally Posted by ipodrulz View Post

The 4.2 preview page said there were new keyboards. Is software Dvorak one of them?

English Software Layouts:

QWERTY
AZERTY
QWERTZ

English Hardware Layouts:

U.S.
Dvorak
U.S. International - PC
U.S. Extended
British
French
German
Spanish - ISO
Italian - Pro
Dutch
Belgian


Don't ask me why the other languages appear under English hardware layouts. I don't know.
post #51 of 84
Apple should offer orientation lock for BOTH horizontal and vertical.

Also, the entire iPhone interface should do video out when connected with the cables...
post #52 of 84
Yes, THIS! But iPhone 3GS too!!!

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I really hope AirPlay will let me stream music from my iPhone 4 to my airport express.
post #53 of 84
How do you type that (R) symbol? Obviously, how to do that is the the first thing that comes to mind when I type a name like Apple(R).

Apple is overriding the iPad's lock button to make it a volume mute button? By Apple (R)'s own app store rules, changing the functionality of buttons is not allowed, so they'll have to ban distribution of iOS (Registered trademark used under license) 4.2 from Apple (R).
post #54 of 84
on the 2nd gen ipod touch you could configure the double click function of the home button... Apple should let us choose to have orientation or mute switch.
post #55 of 84
It's getting a bit complicated now, the iPad, with that multitasking bar. You can't just use it intuitively any more, without getting technical. Which is bad.

I like that they made background tasks mostly be Apple daemons, that was smart, from a battery use point of view. But the GUI side of the multi-tasking needs someone to go on acid and come up with something completely new, because what they did sucks.
post #56 of 84
Anyone know where I can find the 2 cool wallpapers in the screenshots?
post #57 of 84
Hmmmm for the first time I'm actually offended :-(...

I don't consider myself old or handicapped, BUT I AM LONG SIGHTED, which means options for bigger fonts are very welcome. You can't wear reading glasses if you are walking along the pavement (sidewalk)....
post #58 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

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This is a fantastic improvement. Until today, a developer needed at least 2 different SDKs-- one for the iPad (3.2) and another for all the iPhones and iPod Touches.

Now, finally we have a single SDK that can be used for development and deploy on any iDevice.

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Er... what? The iOS 3.2 SDK supported both iPhone and iPad, as does the latest 4.1 SDK.

You've only ever needed one copy of the XCode tools to build apps for either iPhone or iPad or both.

The beta unifies the OS version number for the two devices, and makes some of the iOS4.x API functions available for the iPad, but otherwise it makes little or no difference to developers.

If you've been building your iPad apps with a different copy of XCode to the one you use for building iPhone/iPod apps, you probably need to re-read the documentation.
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post #59 of 84
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Originally Posted by libertyforall View Post

Yes, THIS! But iPhone 3GS too!!!

my iPad is able to see my airport express and stream music to it. I've wanted this feature since my 1st gen iPod touch.
post #60 of 84
I am not going to argue anymore with other apple users about whether the orientation lock should become software based. It's beyond me to argue about adding pretty much redundant functionality to one of the three buttons, replacing the very much needed functionality of the lock with a cumbersome software way to do it(two click, one swipe, another click), when one of the three buttons already functions as a mute button.

There might be some nay-sayers here but in these forums as well as elsewhere the response has been overwhelminly negative.

I would suggest if people can spend a couple of minutes to leave feedback to apple. Copy paste my post if you want.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html
post #61 of 84
Hi all. I registered just to reply to this thread about IOS4.2, because frankly I'm kind of amazed at the reactions here to an OS update everyone is so excited about. First let me say, I love my iPad, it's an excellent and revolutionary device, and I'm sure it's going to evolve in great ways over time.

How can some of you be so excited about this light set of updates? I mean seriously, excitement over turning a lock button into a mute button? Seriously? Working the volume is just fine as it is, hold it for a second and voila, it's muted. This has never been an issue I'd have thought warrants an update, nevermind discussion.

Where is the innovation in this upcoming update?

I just docked my iPod Touch after *gasp*, leaving it on the table overnight. I don't recall leaving anything running, but I guess I forgot to check the multitasking list because the iPod is 100% dead. Before multitasking was added to the OS, I could go for days without charging, now that's impossible unless I ruthlessly check what apps have decided to stay open due to me not babysitting it. Multitasking? I could honestly do without it, and I don't look forward to it landing on the iPad. Maybe allowing that mute button to function as a "do not multitask" button would be better, at least for me.

I'm waiting for what seems will be an eternity, for Apple to start supporting web based rich text editing. I'm not in a minority either, just google "ipad rich text editor" and you'll see there are thousands of bloggers who can't edit content through a web browser on their iPad (or iphone/pod). TinyMCE is a popular editor framework used in all kinds of web based blog forms, and I rarely hear Apple commenting on allowing this to work. What's up with that? The biggest feature I crave using on the iPad and not even a though about it? But again, we have the mute button.

Back to 4.2 again. I noticed people seem excited that there are now a few more fonts to pick from in iNotes, so we can change over from Comic Sans to Helvetica. And this is exciting how? Seriously, raise the bar a bit here folks, gushing over having a few fonts added is kind of funny.

What about uploading images or files using a web based file upload control? The lack of support on iDevices reminds me of when Microsoft removed ActiveX from Vista (sorry for such a disgusting comparison folks ), but as it stands, without a third party app (tweetdeck via tinypic, facebook iPhone app, FTP programs), I have absolutely no way to simply upload a file to my own web site. Isn't uploading files a kind of popular function to today's somewhat tech-savvy "interweb" users?

Anyways, I didn't come here to vent, I just wanted to point out how happy Apple fans seem getting these itsy bitsy updates, and that there are some glaring gaps in what the iDevices currently do. Allowing us to change font sizes for reading email? Great, but not revolutionary, more like a shoulda-been-there. More font choices? Great, but again, should-been-there already.

But the mute button? Come on, give Apple some useful feedback to work with instead of being so easily appeased. I don't use that slider either to lock the screen, nor will I for muting. It's just no big deal. I need enhancements that allow me to get more work done.
post #62 of 84
Great article, cant wait for iPad update.
post #63 of 84
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Originally Posted by Xed17 View Post

Multitasking? I could honestly do without it
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I'm waiting for what seems will be an eternity, for Apple to start supporting web based rich text editing.

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What about uploading images or files using a web based file upload control? ... I have absolutely no way to simply upload a file to my own web site.

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I don't use that slider either to lock the screen, nor will I for muting. It's just no big deal. I need enhancements that allow me to get more work done.


It's like you were reading my mind, lol!

The only multi-tasking feature I like is being able to play Pandora in the background while doing other activities. Otherwise, I also could do without it.

Not being able to do bold and italics in an e-mail is crazy!

And I only found out the other day that I couldn't select files in the browser to upload -- I had to quickly find an app to use to upload pics to my blog. I shoulda just been able to use my blog's standard pic upload page to do it...

I also don't use the physical orientation lock. I can understand why people who use it would be upset about losing it though.
post #64 of 84
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Er... what? The iOS 3.2 SDK supported both iPhone and iPad, as does the latest 4.1 SDK.

You've only ever needed one copy of the XCode tools to build apps for either iPhone or iPad or both.

The beta unifies the OS version number for the two devices, and makes some of the iOS4.x API functions available for the iPad, but otherwise it makes little or no difference to developers.

If you've been building your iPad apps with a different copy of XCode to the one you use for building iPhone/iPod apps, you probably need to re-read the documentation.

I over-simplified...

There was one iOS version supported for the iPad and several supported for the iPhone and iPod Touch.

The problem came about because the iPad iOS did not support the iOS 4. X additions, multi-tasking, iAds, etc.

There are some subtle differences in 4.x:
--if you have an app that saves state.
--if you use media player
--if you used newly-deprecated components

Suffice to say, having the iPad and iPhone on different iOS versions is a hassle for developers.


FWIW, there are currently 3 XCode versions:
-- 3.24 with iOS 4.1
-- 3.25 with iOS 4.2
-- 4 Developer Preview with iOS 4.1

Each of these comes with it's own complete set of XCode, iOS versions and documentation.

The documentation instructs you to Install each of these on a separate Mac.

Any apps submitted to the app store must be prepared using the current SDK/iOS -- 3.24 with iOS 4.1 .

When the latest SDK/iOS -- 3.25 with iOS 4.2 becomes "current", life will be a lot easier as a single installation, set of docs, frameworks, APIs will be used for all iDevices.
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post #65 of 84
For those that were concerned about it, the software orientation lock in 4.2 on the iPad does work in both portrait and landscape modes.

Personally, I'm in favor of the hardware switch now providing a mute function. I often have my iPad with me in meetings, or nearby at night, and having to turn on my iPad, unlock it, and then use the volume rocker to lower the volume all the way down is a clumsy thing to have to do when the sound of new emails and calendar requests gets intrusive (especially if I forgot to turn the sound down at night, and a stream of emails come in at 3am). Similarly, having to manually increase the volume back to where it was is just as bad, and easily forgotten about. A simple flick of a switch works really well for me. I've maybe used the orientation lock half a dozen times in total despite making heavy use of iBooks and Kindle, whereas I typically want to mute the device frequently (at least once a day).

Having said that, with the variety of uses the iPad has I can see how others would prefer the original orientation lock function. It does seem a good idea to make this a configuration option. The only downside would be redundant functionality (i.e. both a hardware and a software orientation lock if the button were used in that mode). Maybe one approach would be to also change the function assigned to the multi-tasking tray based on the same preference; if the user has selected mute for the hardware switch, a left-swipe on the multi-tasking tray gets them to the orientation lock (per current 4.2 functionality), whereas if they've selected orientation lock for the hardware switch, they get a mute/unmute button in the multi-tasking tray.

Also, I've always felt the lock screen is underused. It could be handy to have orientation and mute/unmute toggles on that screen too, as there's plenty of space for it. There's the danger of accidental triggering of course, but I'd find those functions more useful than the current slideshow button.

Lastly, a vibrate option on the iPad would be nice in a future hardware revision, in conjunction with the mute switch. I realize nobody's carrying an iPad in their pocket, but I still find the mute/vibrate mode useful on my iPhone when not in my pocket (i.e. as a more subtle alert, which I can still hear when my iPhone is resting on a table, and still feel when carrying it in my hand).

By the way, one feature I have not yet found in iOS 4.2 is the "Find text on web pages" Safari feature mentioned on the 4.2 "Coming Soon" page. Anyone spotted that?
post #66 of 84
Does anybody know if the there are more bluetooth keyboard shortcuts added to this update? I am looking to use some ipads at work for electronic medical records and before, the ios wouldn't allow 3rd party apps to use control keys or directional keys to help with navigation. I am hoping this is fixed in this new update.
post #67 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

I disagree completely!

I suspect that the iPad will soon have FaceTime and could use a mute button (as, supposedly, it was originally called).

I prefer the software lock! You can still mute the sound with the volume rocker, if you prefer that method.

I'm not so sure everyone isn't going off half cocked here because the addition of a software lock doesn't necessarily imply the loss of the hardware lock, but if this is the case, then I'm with those saying that this is a colossally bad move.

In my personal experience with the iPad, one of the most annoying things about it is the way the screen will go upside down and sideways and spin around etc. when you are using it. I understand the idea of it, and was actually in favour of it before my iPad arrived, but in practice I found myself reaching for the orientation lock almost every time I picked the iPad up.

Again, in terms of being a "productivity" device (the iPad is expressly trying to be this according to Apple), having a desktop who's icons reorient themselves every five minutes and applications that run upside down is definitely *not* a feature. I get far more actual work done on the iPhone desktop than I do on the iPad.

If all you are doing is reaching for buttons for various TV stations or stores then the user is focussing on the icon (usually a familiar logo) and it works. The CBS, NBC, Amazon, etc. icons are distinctive enough "buttons" to press no matter where they were on the screen the last time you saw them. If on the other hand you want to type an important document fast, moving the stupid thing around and scanning through all the icons to find the one you want is a definite negative IMO and once you get it started, having the screen literally do a summersault every time your train hits a bump on track is impossible.
post #68 of 84
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How do you type that (R) symbol? Obviously, how to do that is the the first thing that comes to mind when I type a name like Apple(R).

Apple is overriding the iPad's lock button to make it a volume mute button? By Apple (R)'s own app store rules, changing the functionality of buttons is not allowed, so they'll have to ban distribution of iOS (Registered trademark used under license) 4.2 from Apple (R).

Right now the options to use symbol keys on the iPad are limited. They will come. Patience is virtue.

In the meantime, you can use a Bluetooth keyboard and have access to all the symbols.

As a work-around, copy the enclosed symbols, some of which are available on the iPad now*, and email them to yourself.
∑ ´ ® ¥ ¨ ø π « å ß ∂ © ˙ ∆ ˚ ¬ æ Ω ≈ ç √ ∫ µ ≤ ≥ ÷

∑ ´ ®
post #69 of 84
I really like the button for locking screen orientation. Why would I ever need a mute button? That idea is just ridiculously bad.

I hope they add the option to keep the button as it is.
post #70 of 84
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

Great article guys.

Let me just ask for everyone's understanding whilst I use caps for a few words:

THE NEW SOFTWARE ORIENTATION LOCK IS A COLOSSALLY STUPID MOVE BY APPLE.

Thanks for letting me take it off my chest.

Hey apple software engineers please get it:

The mute button is there on a phone for a very good reason, quick mute for calls, there isn't any reason to be there on an ipad, you are almost never going to quickly need to mute the device.

Even if you do need that on such a rare occasion, there's a way to do it, just one second on the lower volume button.

The screen lock physical button it's a essential, there are users such as myself that use it very, very often, I literally use it sometimes a few times within an hour. People need a button, to see if it's lock or not, to feel the button and do it with one click instead of double clicking the main ipad button then choosing lock screen then going back to their application.

It's an inexplicably stupid decision to change this. You can already mute by holding the volume for less than a sec or a for second or so. Why do you need to use another (very, very useful button or even an indispensable one for screen lock) button to do the very same thing. So essentially you 'll have two buttons sharing functionality in a device that only has three buttons? How dumb is that? Two of the three control buttons controlling sound on a device that isn't primarily an ipod but a browser/reader/photos/apps/video device. Why? Oh Why? A dedicated mute on a device that isn't a phone to ring and bother you when you don't want it to?

And a word to the Stevster: You said it first Steve, you aren't perfect, you are close in terms of tech, but you are not perfect. Recent case in point the inexplicable washing out of all colour in itunes sidebar that makes it virtually impossible to navigate it for anyone without the eyes of an 18 year old. Going counter every neuroscience study on human perception (hint:colour and pictures far quicker to distinguish quickly than grey and words) and counter to even apple's own human interface guidelines. Hear again with this choice you are making a bad move. Change it.


Please everyone send apple feedback on this, they will have to listen.

To each his own.

I have been using my iPad for presentation purposes and have often had to use the volume controls to mute parts of the program. Sometimes with embarrassing results.

I personally like the idea of muting with a single click as being proposed. It would be a lot faster and less clumsy, and I am sure my kids would prefer it as well when I come into their bedroom.

The beauty of 'single' click vs. using the volume control, is that it returns the volume to exactly the same level I had set it originally.

It also conforms to Apple's other mobile devices.

In addition, with Skype/VOIP and FaceTime coming, instant muting will be a god-send, as every second longer, could be catastrophic. Ask my kids and spouse.

And a word to you, better you tone down your rhetoric. You demanding attitude is childish. Ask you kids.
post #71 of 84
This is close to getting too complex for the type of appliance computer it's supposed to be.
post #72 of 84
Thank AI, this is a very informative article. Excellent. I have not tried it yet, but 4.2 looks great and elegantly implemented - typical Apple. Not sure about the orientation lock yet, but already I think the brightness adjustment is way cool. So many times I am in Safari during the evening and have to leave Safari to goto SETTINGS to adjust the brightness. The new approach is way better.
post #73 of 84
Changing the orientation lock in iOS 4.2 is a HUGE PROBLEM. I can't believe Apple did this.

I've posted an open letter to Steve Jobs here about this issue:

http://scottworldblog.wordpress.com/...t-aint-broken/
post #74 of 84
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Originally Posted by Onhka View Post

To each his own.

I have been using my iPad for presentation purposes and have often had to use the volume controls to mute parts of the program. Sometimes with embarrassing results.

I personally like the idea of muting with a single click as being proposed. It would be a lot faster and less clumsy, and I am sure my kids would prefer it as well when I come into their bedroom.

PLEASE. How hard is it to hold down the "volume down" button for 1/2 second?

I bet you didn't even realize that you COULD hold down the volume button for 1/2 second to mute the iPad.

Removing the screen lock orientation from the button on the side makes the iPad much more cumbersome to use, as I discuss in my open letter to Steve Jobs here:

iOS 4.2 on iPad: don't fix it if it aint broken
post #75 of 84
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

Great article guys.

Let me just ask for everyone's understanding whilst I use caps for a few words:

THE NEW SOFTWARE ORIENTATION LOCK IS A COLOSSALLY STUPID MOVE BY APPLE.

Thanks for letting me take it off my chest.

Hey apple software engineers please get it:

The mute button is there on a phone for a very good reason, quick mute for calls, there isn't any reason to be there on an ipad, you are almost never going to quickly need to mute the device.

Even if you do need that on such a rare occasion, there's a way to do it, just one second on the lower volume button.

The screen lock physical button it's a essential, there are users such as myself that use it very, very often, I literally use it sometimes a few times within an hour. People need a button, to see if it's lock or not, to feel the button and do it with one click instead of double clicking the main ipad button then choosing lock screen then going back to their application.

It's an inexplicably stupid decision to change this. You can already mute by holding the volume for less than a sec or a for second or so. Why do you need to use another (very, very useful button or even an indispensable one for screen lock) button to do the very same thing. So essentially you 'll have two buttons sharing functionality in a device that only has three buttons? How dumb is that? Two of the three control buttons controlling sound on a device that isn't primarily an ipod but a browser/reader/photos/apps/video device. Why? Oh Why? A dedicated mute on a device that isn't a phone to ring and bother you when you don't want it to?

And a word to the Stevster: You said it first Steve, you aren't perfect, you are close in terms of tech, but you are not perfect. Recent case in point the inexplicable washing out of all colour in itunes sidebar that makes it virtually impossible to navigate it for anyone without the eyes of an 18 year old. Going counter every neuroscience study on human perception (hint:colour and pictures far quicker to distinguish quickly than grey and words) and counter to even apple's own human interface guidelines. Hear again with this choice you are making a bad move. Change it.


Please everyone send apple feedback on this, they will have to listen.

Couldn't agree with you more. I just sent an email to Steve Jobs this morning on this very topic, and even posted it an as open letter on my blog as well: iOS 4.2 on iPad: don't fix it if it aint broken

But everybody needs to send in feedback to Apple about this, and everybody needs to write Steve Jobs about this, if we are to make any impact on this huge mistake from Apple.
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Originally Posted by scotty321 View Post

PLEASE. How hard is it to hold down the "volume down" button for 1/2 second?

I bet you didn't even realize that you COULD hold down the volume button for 1/2 second to mute the iPad.

Removing the screen lock orientation from the button on the side makes the iPad much more cumbersome to use, as I discuss in my open letter to Steve Jobs here:

iOS 4.2 on iPad: don't fix it if it aint broken

You are talking to the wrong guy Scotty.

I use and as do a lot of others, Skype on my iPad. I also use SoundNote, DragonDictation, FileMaker Go, and a few other apps for presentation purposes. Muting the volume by holding down the volume button is one thing. Having to un-mute to my original level is, in a word, (more) cumbersome than having a switch that just mutes; like my iPhone.

When the next iPad is introduced, FaceTime will dominate. Being able to keep your conversation private with a quick flip of the switch, like the iPhone does now, will become the norm, necessary and makes life easier.

I flip my iPhone more times a day than I ever do on my iPad.
post #77 of 84
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Originally Posted by scotty321 View Post

Changing the orientation lock in iOS 4.2 is a HUGE PROBLEM. I can't believe Apple did this.

I've posted an open letter to Steve Jobs here about this issue:

http://scottworldblog.wordpress.com/...t-aint-broken/

Well reading thru your letter I realize I must be in the VERY small minority of users who dont care that the change was made.
Have had the iPad since day 1 and have used the screen lock maybe a couple times.
I know I have had to mute the sound many more times, and yes you can hold the volume rocker for a second and it mutes. The thing I dont like is that when you want to get back to your desired volume you have to click to volume rocker up to get there. You can not just unmute and have your volume return to where it was previously.

At the end of the day this is still the 1st beta of 4.2, hopefully they add a user option and make everyone happy.
post #78 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

I over-simplified...

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Suffice to say, having the iPad and iPhone on different iOS versions is a hassle for developers.

That's true, but it still will be unless you are intending to drop support for 3.x devices the moment that 4.2 hits. Most developers aren't. For them it will make no difference. Most of us will still be supporting iOS3.x on both devices until iOS5 comes out, or Apple drops support for 3.x in the SDK, whichever come first.

It'll be great for users that the iPad now has multitasking, etc, but for most developers it will just be a quick recompile and re-upload to the app store (to enable fast switching) and then business as usual.

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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

FWIW, there are currently 3 XCode versions:
-- 3.24 with iOS 4.1
-- 3.25 with iOS 4.2
-- 4 Developer Preview with iOS 4.1

Each of these comes with it's own complete set of XCode, iOS versions and documentation.

The documentation instructs you to Install each of these on a separate Mac.

Xcode 4 beta installs in a separate developer directory to the 3.x version by default so there's no conflict. Many of Apple's beta release notes have mentioned support for installing beta versions into a folder called DeveloperBeta to avoid conflict with the production version. I run all three SDKs on my primary development machine without any issues.

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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

Any apps submitted to the app store must be prepared using the current SDK/iOS -- 3.24 with iOS 4.1 .

When the latest SDK/iOS -- 3.25 with iOS 4.2 becomes "current", life will be a lot easier as a single installation, set of docs, frameworks, APIs will be used for all iDevices.

Surely it just means that instead of using 3.24 with the 4.1 SDK for all devices, we'll use 3.25 with the 4.2 SDK for all devices? Some "if ([object respondsToSelector:@selector(some_OS4_API)]) ..." clauses will now branch a different way at runtime on the iPad, but that's about it.

When iOS4.2 becomes current, developers will install it over their current 4.1 SDK, and then their DeveloperBeta folder will lie unused for a few weeks until the iOS4.3 beta SDK comes out, and then the cycle will start all over again. The Xcode 4 beta will presumably stay in the same place until it is released officially (unless they intend to ship it with iOS4.2, but I doubt it).

I don't mean to come across as a douche (well, maybe a little) but I really don't get what point you're trying to make. You're clearly a developer, but as one developer to another I really don't get where you're coming from with this - this is completely business as usual. I'm way more excited about the iOS4.2 release as a consumer than as a developer.
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post #79 of 84
this might be an off-note, but where did you get those two wallpapers (the aqua-gree water bubbles and the black with a red water bubble....) they are very nice and would love to have them on my iPad
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My android phone has these "in app ads" .. it SUCKS!
every thing I do on the phone has spam ads... I hate it- and can't get rid of them.

If this happens in the iPad - I will throw it out the window.

It's similar to having annoying pop-up ads in the internet- but you cant get rid of them. And they are everywhere.

What does "in app Ads" really mean ?????
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