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Apple's forthcoming iOS 4.2 update for the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch includes a number of subtle improvements that have not yet been publicized, including expanded features for YouTube and FaceTime. AppleInsider offers a closer look.

Set for release in November, the biggest changes in iOS 4.2 come for iPad owners, who will finally see their touchscreen tablet upgraded to iOS 4 with new features like multitasking and folders. All iOS device owners will also gain printing capabilities via AirPrint.

Further time spent with the first beta of iOS 4.2 has revealed a number of other features coming to device owners this fall.

YouTube voting

The built-in YouTube application now features the ability to rank videos. Like on the website itself, iOS users can now give a virtual "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" to content on the site.

While the YouTube application on the iPhone has stayed mostly the same since the device launched in 2007, Google this summer revamped its mobile site, allowing users to access more features in its HTML5-based website at m.youtube.com.

Apple's latest addition to the YouTube application brings a feature that has existed on the full and mobile versions of the site to the standalone iOS application.





FaceTime link in Messages app

Accessibility to FaceTime will become even greater in iOS 4.2, as a direct video chat link is now included in the iPhone's built-in text messaging application. When in a conversation in the Messages app, a "FaceTime" button now rests in between the "Call" and "Contact Info" selections.



Support for CoreMIDI

The first beta of iOS 4.2 adds support for the CoreMIDI framework to the operating system's application program interfaces. This could suggest that future applications would allow new avenues for musical creation, and could also allow physical MIDI instruments connectors.

MIDI, or Musical Instrument Digital Interface, is an industry standard that allows electronic music machines to synchronize and communicate. With an adapter, a device like an iPhone could theoretically create and record sounds from a MIDI instrument.

New restrictions

Apple has also added a handful of new restrictions in the Settings application. Users can now prevent the deleting of App Store software, and may prevent changes to accounts in the Mail application.



iTunes link in iPad Videos app

Users can quickly find more content on iTunes with a new direct link within the iPad's Videos application. When viewing a list of TV episodes on the device, users are now presented with the option to find more episodes of that program through the iTunes store.



Issues

Of course, being an early beta, iOS 4.2 is not yet ready for public use, as the software still has many bugs and issues that must be addressed before the November launch. Because of bugs and issues, Apple has reportedly recommended to its developers that they only install the iOS 4.2 beta on devices that will be used exclusively to test the software.

The biggest problems are said to lie with the baseband on the iPhone when running the first beta. Calls sometimes do not connect, and text messages can take a great deal of time to send.

People familiar with the first beta said it carries a number of known issues related to device activation and the Springboard home screen, which could cause restarts and crashes with the software. It has also been documented that MobileMe e-mail is not currently pushed to devices.

In addition, some features like AirPlay and AirPrint are not yet completed. As such, their performance in the beta software is said to be understandably spotty.
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"The first beta of iOS 4.2 adds support for the CoreMIDI framework to the operating system's application program interfaces. This could suggest that future applications would allow new avenues for musical creation, and could also allow physical MIDI instruments connectors.

MIDI, or Musical Instrument Digital Interface, is an industry standard that allows electronic music machines to synchronize and communicate. With an adapter, a device like an iPhone could theoretically create and record sounds from a MIDI instrument."

Looking forward with this part of the update.
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Plus you need the beta 10.6.5 update as well. I don't mind putting some betas on my system, but not the entire OS and an entire mobile OS.
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Thanks for keeping us updated on the little changes!

In most Apple OS releases, all the little improvements, taken together, add up to as much as any of the big headline features. Its that ongoing attention to detail that makes OS X and iOS great.
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I'd like to see a lighter weight text message app. I have a 3GS now, but on my 3G that would lag like crazy from 2.0 on up. There's still a slight delay on my 3GS with ios4 when it's not in the multitasking tray. It's not a video game I'm loading, it's text messages! I like that it's pretty, but come on!
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As reported by TUAW, iOS 4.2b1 also now lists iProd2,1 with product ID 4765 as AppleTV2,1. I wonder what avenue some will now take to state that the AppleTV is not based iOS (sans CocoaTouch UI) as most were predicting.
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Plus you need the beta 10.6.5 update as well. I don't mind putting some betas on my system, but not the entire OS and an entire mobile OS.

You only need the 10.6.5 beta if you intend to use your Mac as an AirPrint server. I installed 4.2 on my iPad last night and I'm still running 10.6.4 on my Mac.
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The biggest problems are said to lie with the baseband on the iPhone. Calls sometimes do not connect

So basically, the iPhone has been in beta since 2007. Got it.
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<Yawn>

the coremidi is not yawn, it could kill the tenori-on which costs more than an ipad on itz own..
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You only need the 10.6.5 beta if you intend to use your Mac as an AirPrint server. I installed 4.2 on my iPad last night and I'm still running 10.6.4 on my Mac.

My mistake. Sorry.
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the coremidi is not yawn, it could kill the tenori-on which costs more than an ipad on itz own..

It looks very interesting. But I don't ever expect much to plug into the proprietary connector that Apple uses. So far, the offerings are pretty paltry.

Maybe this time around things will be different.
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Probably the wrong place for this
But it would be great if somehow in YouTube there would be something where voting really meant something.
Take for example if a singer or performer could do his own song. A new group can play their very own song. But they would have to deposit something in order to receive votes on there performance. At the end of a month or whatever. The winner or winners keep something.
Look at how many American Idols, or Americas Got Talent Wannabes would put some money out.
Perhaps a new Michael Grimm or Daughtry are just waiting for an opportunity.
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My mistake. Sorry.

Theres no need to apologize here. Adding this only to offer that Apple is providing a link to the 10.6.5 beta and relevant Seed Notes to iPhone devs in the iOS SDK beta section of the iOS portal - iOS devs dont need to be enrolled in the MacOS dev program to DL the current 10.6.5 beta seed. Do read the Seed Notes.
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Have they added improved parental controls for iPad? iPad is not an individual devices, but an household device. It is not strictly about guarding your kids, but improved use of the device. Here is my wishlist

1. The Mail client should support not just multiple Inbox, but it should be broken down by multiple users of my iPad. I honor my son's privacy, at the same time I want him to do the same. Either add support for configuring e-mail inbox by users or allow a way for me to disconnect and prompt for password when opening a mailbox.

2. Contents with ratings should be honored and I should be able to assign different ratings per user. What my middle-schooler can watch, listen, plan, and read is different than my elementary-schooler. I need a way to control that and have it assigned to that. This will also allow me to know how long are then on that account

Basically, bring down some of the Mac OS X user stuff down to iPad.
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Have they added improved parental controls for iPad? iPad is not an individual devices, but an household device. It is not strictly about guarding your kids, but improved use of the device. Here is my wishlist

1. The Mail client should support not just multiple Inbox, but it should be broken down by multiple users of my iPad. I honor my son's privacy, at the same time I want him to do the same. Either add support for configuring e-mail inbox by users or allow a way for me to disconnect and prompt for password when opening a mailbox.

2. Contents with ratings should be honored and I should be able to assign different ratings per user. What my middle-schooler can watch, listen, plan, and read is different than my elementary-schooler. I need a way to control that and have it assigned to that. This will also allow me to know how long are then on that account

Basically, bring down some of the Mac OS X user stuff down to iPad.

User accounts on iOS for iPad would be awesome, even if it was limited to only a handful of accounts with a single master account that regulated the amount of space and options.

Id also love to see a Guest account option for all iOS-based iDevices. I let people use my iPhone from time-to-time but I hate what people could do to my device or see on it.
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User accounts on iOS for iPad would be awesome, even if it was limited to only a handful of accounts with a single master account that regulated the amount of space and options.

Id also love to see a Guest account option for all iOS-based iDevices. I let people use my iPhone from time-to-time but I hate what people could do to my device or see on it.

Ditto. Accounts would be brilliant. More-so for the iPad, in my opinion, which feels more like a computer than an iPhone does.
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Will it be able to sync notes and tasks with an Exchange server? If Apple is going to claim ActiveSync support, then they should support all available ActiveSync features.

How about displaying a persistent "ringer off" icon in the status bar when the ringer switch is moved to the Off position?
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Ever since google launched the HTML5 version of Youtube I find myself using it almost exclusively over the app. I am happy that Apple is working on improving it's capabilities, but adding thumbs up is not gonna make me use the app over the mobile site.

I would really like to see improvement to the maps app like the ability to go landscape, street view and turn by turn directions. That would be awesome.
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CoreMIDI could really be fantastic. Lighter weight apps thanks to MIDI controlled synthesis (instead of audio files), MIDI controlled interactions with external devices, including synths, lighting rigs... basically anything capable of MIDI in/out. The MIDImind boggles.

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While the YouTube application on the iPhone has stayed mostly the same since the device launched in 2007, Google this summer revamped its mobile site, allowing users to access more features in its HTML5-based website at m.youtube.com.

This begs the question: Do we actually need a YouTube app any more?
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This begs the question: Do we actually need a YouTube app any more?

Did we ever? *ducks*


I have nothing against you tube, I just don't care for it.
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Ever since google launched the HTML5 version of Youtube I find myself using it almost exclusively over the app. I am happy that Apple is working on improving it's capabilities, but adding thumbs up is not gonna make me use the app over the mobile site.

I would really like to see improvement to the maps app like the ability to go landscape, street view and turn by turn directions. That would be awesome.

By an Android Phone. I stuck with Apple and the iPhone for far too long. I have the Droid X and it is better than the iPhone 4 even still on 2.1 Android.

I did take Apple up on their upgrade to 4 plan with no restocking fee. I returned it 14 days later after my number had rolled over to Verizon. No dropped calls and I was in a good area for AT&T. Verizon is rock solid with the Droid X and it's the perfect businesss/pleasure phone mix.

Glad to be free of the iPhone and love my phone.
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While the YouTube application on the iPhone has stayed mostly the same since the device launched in 2007

AI...
If only could you put your hands on real iPhone, your cheeks would be blushing all day around...
YouTube app's undergone the major overhaul with iOS 4.*. First time ever it follows Apple's own recommendations for saving the state of the app upon switching and termination.
It now benefits entirely from display orientation changing capabilities; yes, if you had to buy new connector cables every year to replace worn ones, you would know what I'm talking about.

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an iPhone could theoretically create and record sounds from a MIDI instrument

Bad intel. AppleInsider should know better. ;-)

MIDI is basically notes (and other instructions) in machine form language not audio. No sound can ever be transmitted via MIDI.* For audio there's CoreAudio.

Also there's the issue of how any instruments would be connected to the iPhone. A MIDI port can't be fitted on something as small as an iPhone, but some instruments now use USB ports instead so should apple fit a very small USB port on the iPhone that would certainly open up many interesting options.

It's more likely that CoreMIDI is simply intended for allowing various multi-tasking music apps to use the protocol to "play together".

It would be awesome if Apple had plans for wireless "MIDI" though, but then it wouldn't be MIDI anymore, but something altogether new. MIDI's been around for like 30 years now, so it would be great if someone just mercifully killed it off and replaced it with a modern standard.


* Unless the audio is translated into sysex data, transferred, and then translated back into audio on the receiving end, which can be done, but certainly not in "real time" as MIDI is a very old and slow protocol. But then, if there's a USB port on the iOS hardware to connect an instrument to, it makes no sense to transfer audio via MIDI and not as regular audio over USB.
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We don't need "get more videos" links, we need "update podcast" BUTTONS. And "update all podcasts".

Having to leave the app is retarded.
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This begs the question: Do we actually need a YouTube app any more?

According to Steve, apps are the future. The mobile web is NOT how people use Apple's products.

Or, given that Apple's advertising sales depend on apps instead of websites, maybe it is total bullshit.
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User accounts on iOS for iPad would be awesome, even if it was limited to only a handful of accounts with a single master account that regulated the amount of space and options.

Id also love to see a Guest account option for all iOS-based iDevices. I let people use my iPhone from time-to-time but I hate what people could do to my device or see on it.

In the adult world, Its considered a matter of trust and respect when you hand someone your own smartphone to check out. If they immediately start f'ing things up and sending e-mail and txt for you, you now know not to trust the person anymore.

Personally, I don't hand my iPhone to people I think would do that, so I think for this purpose, the guest user feature would be more embarrassing than useful.
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We don't need "get more videos" links, we need "update podcast" BUTTONS. And "update all podcasts".

Having to leave the app is retarded.

Podcasts? Those are part of iTunes. WTF does it have to do with YouTube? That's your answer.
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This begs the question: Do we actually need a YouTube app any more?

Well, if you have an iPhone, its a much faster experience to use the App. If you have an iPad, its a much nicer looking, feature rich, and better performing experience than the website.

The website sucks by comparison to the iPad app. And the iPhone app seems to work fine too.
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In the adult world, Its considered a matter of trust and respect when you hand someone your own smartphone to check out. If they immediately start f'ing things up and sending e-mail and txt for you, you now know not to trust the person anymore.

Personally, I don't hand my iPhone to people I think would do that, so I think for this purpose, the guest user feature would be more embarrassing than useful.

Youre not really thinking through all the possible scenarios here. What if the person is a kid and youre letting them play a game, but you music videos and songs in your iPod app that just arent age appropriate for that individual? Or if you are letting someone use the Safari browser to look something up and in typing the URL your history shows them sites that they may be offended by?

The scenarios are endless. Why do consumer PCs have guest accounts? I have mine turned on so people can use it and I no nothing offensive to them or damaging to system can happen. Its pragmatic.
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Youre not really thinking through all the possible scenarios here. What if the person is a kid and youre letting them play a game, but you music videos and songs in your iPod app that just arent age appropriate for that individual? Or if you are letting someone use the Safari browser to look something up and in typing the URL your history shows them sites that they may be offended by?

The scenarios are endless. Why do consumer PCs have guest accounts? I have mine turned on so people can use it and I no nothing offensive to them or damaging to system can happen. Its pragmatic.

I agree completely... and I do hand my phone to specific other people all the time. Some children, some adults. I have sensitive work material on my phone that requires a secure unlock code, but wish there was a button on the unlock screen that just put it into "guest mode" and I could designate which apps were accessible or not in that mode.
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"The first beta of iOS 4.2 adds support for the CoreMIDI framework to the operating system's application program interfaces. This could suggest that future applications would allow new avenues for musical creation, and could also allow physical MIDI instruments connectors.

MIDI, or Musical Instrument Digital Interface, is an industry standard that allows electronic music machines to synchronize and communicate. With an adapter, a device like an iPhone could theoretically create and record sounds from a MIDI instrument."

Looking forward with this part of the update.

I had a sudden vision of Kraftwerk on stage with nothing but iPhones. That would be perfection.
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Additionally there are a number of issues with audio in the 4.2 beta. Sometimes you get an error when the dock is connected, or the ipod has no volume playing music. And also like what happened to me the other morning, there is no audio for alarms.
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