Originally Posted by Wormhole
Can you explain why countries who have implemented some of Marx/Engels theories
are kicking the US ass not only economically but with their heath care, their education, their overall individual wealth and the happiness of the citizenry. They hold more patents and have little companies like VW, BMW and Mercedes, Siemens, LG and Sony, Hanjin and KIA and BP and Apple(Chia) and HP(China) and the US has a trade deficit of ~50 Billion per quarter, can you please shed some light on this?
Originally Posted by FineTunes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...list_countries
Here's a list, you choose.
Originally Posted by Wormhole Sorry these are Marxist - communist.
I am looking for Marx/Engels countries
like Austria, Germany and other social democracies.
Very well ignored A+ (I think this is your first A+ in ignorance, well done!)
First in your post you failed to make this distinction between Marx-Communist and Marx/Engels-Social Democracyso you fail there. Haven't those Communistic countries listed in wiki implemented some of Marx/Engels theories (CHINA amongst them?)? If so, then your premise as you see it is flawed or fails to take into account that you can use the Marx-Communist states as examples as well.
We can disagree, can make errors, or we can mistakesbut to belittle someone who tries to answer your post is just a D+ Drake University Education
LG, Hanjin and KIA are South Korean companies--- I would include Samsung, Helio, Hyundai http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...of_South_Korea
S Korea is not a social democracytheir government is much like ours. They have their ups and downs depending on who is in power. However it appears that their health care system is a lot better than ours---but S. Korea is not a Marx/EngelsSocial Democracy and the type of health care that in a country does not necessarily make it a social democracy.http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2010/...-in-korea.html
Apple Chi[n]a is a US company who manufactures products in China at Fox Com amongst others. Also contracts with South Korea and Singapore.
HP is a multinational US based company. HP China http://www.hpl.hp.com/china/
---Lenovo who bought IBM's PC's is a Chinese electronic company. But isn't the PRC Marxist/EngelsCommunist and not Marx/EngelsSocial Democracy. Somehow the PRC doesn't fit the definition below:Social Democracy:
social democracy,*political ideology that advocates a peaceful, evolutionary transition of society from capitalism to socialism using established political processes. Based on 19th-century socialism and the tenets of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, social democracy shares common ideological roots with communism but eschews its militancy and totalitarianism. Social democracy was originally known as revisionism because it represented a change in basic Marxist doctrine, primarily in the formers repudiation of the use of revolution to establish a socialist society.
Again another D+ Drake U. example from you.
Sony is Japanese company whose government not a social democracy:
Japan no longer officially has the traditional federal system, and its 47 prefectures depend on the central government for most funding. Governors of prefectures, mayors of municipalities, and prefectural and municipal assembly members are popularly elected for four year terms.http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Japanese_government
BP is British and BP is responsible for the Gulf of Mexico oil spill
Social Democracy appears to be on a decline in Europe-----but this is another story and off topic:The decline of Europe's social democratic parties
Philippe Marlière, 16 March 2010
On previous occasions of decline, social democracy has bounced back in Europe, but this time the record includes ideological and cultural meltdown. What would it take to survive the current crisis?
This electoral trend was emphatically confirmed in the 2009 European elections. Social democratic parties were the main losers on this occasion despite harbouring high hopes of doing well after the debâcle of financial capitalism and market politics. These poor results are all the more surprising given that, almost everywhere in Europe, conservative forces are in decline. The main lesson of this election was that social democratic parties were severely rejected where they are traditionally strong (France, Germany, UK, Italy and Spain). One can note also that the slump in votes of social democratic forces benefited the radical left in several countries (France, Germany, Portugal and to some extent Greece).
*---you can read more @http://www.opendemocracy.net/philippe-marliere/decline-of-europes-social-democratic-parties