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Adobe on Tuesday announced the launch of Photoshop Elements 9 and Premiere Elements 9 for both Mac and Windows, with "groundbreaking features" added to the No. 1 selling consumer photo- and video-editing software.

The latest release marks the first time that Premiere Elements, Adobe's best-selling consumer video-editing software, is available on the Mac platform. Adobe said that Photoshop Elements 9 and Premiere Elements 9 offer the most powerful tools yet, with easy-to-use products at a compelling price point of $99.99. Both applications are also available in a bundle for $149.99.

"For the first time, both Windows and Mac users can do more with their photos and video with Photoshop Elements 9 and Premiere Elements 9 bundle -- a unified solution for all photo and video needs," said Kevin Connor, vice president of product management for Digital Imaging at Adobe.

"With industry-leading products like Photoshop and Premiere Pro in the family, Photoshop Elements and Premiere Elements are uniquely positioned to leverage the technology the pros use. Our goal is to deliver our customers intelligent and accessible features that do all the heavy lifting, empowering them to easily share high-impact memories with friends and family."

Adobe Photoshop Elements 9

Photoshop Elements 9 is said to deliver consumers the ability to achieve professional results easily and quickly, including the new addition of Content Aware Fill this year. It offers a "complete photo solution" for those who want to organize, edit, create and share photos.

"The Photoshop brand has been creating groundbreaking imaging magic for 20 years, and Photoshop Elements has been making that magic accessible to mere mortals for nearly a decade," Connor said. "The Content Aware Fill technology introduced with Photoshop CS5 is one of our most exciting innovations ever, so we're thrilled to be able to make it accessible to photo and video enthusiasts in this latest Elements release."



Features of Adobe Photoshop Elements 9 include:

Image Intelligence for Easy Editing:? Photoshop Elements 9 uses powerful technology to make even the most complex results achievable for anyone. Adapted from Photoshop CS5s celebrated Content Aware Fill feature, the content intelligence in the Spot Healing Brush analyzes whats in the image and quickly de-clutters or repairs photos (like removing tourists from a crowded scene or an obstruction, such as a telephone pole) with a swipe of a brush, magically filling in the background. The same content intelligence synthesizes missing pixel information to create a stunning panorama from multiple photos, without leaving any gaps or blank spaces.

In addition, the new Photomerge Style Match turns drab photos dramatic by analyzing characteristics of any photo, such as contrast or color tone, and automatically applies those qualities to another photo, allowing users to easily replicate any photo style. Several new Guided Edit options walk users step-by-step through the process of achieving cool editing effects such as Out of Bounds, making an element of a photo appear to leap off the page in 3D, creating pop art masterpieces, or retouching made easy via the perfect portraits feature. In addition, users now have access to Layer Masks for compositing richly layered photos.

Organization Made Easy: For the first time, the popular Photoshop Elements Organizer is available on both the Windows and Mac platform, to help users quickly organize, find and display photo and video clips from one convenient location. The Auto-Analyzer takes the work out of finding the best shots by automatically searching a users collection of photos and assigning a tag based on quality, such as lighting, focus or contrast. People Recognition also automatically creates People tags, so you can find your favorite people fast and it becomes more intelligent over time as it learns to associate specific faces with names.

Sharing Photos Virtually Anywhere: After users make their photos look better than ever, they have various sharing options, including posting photos directly to Facebook or creating one-of-a-kind interactive Online Albums with animated templates. In addition, users can share their memories with personalized photo creations like scrapbook pages, photo books, calendars and cards that can easily be printed from home or via online print service providers. The flexible photo creation workspace allows users complete control over how they design their photo books, by automatically placing photos within a template or providing access to any Photoshop Elements editing feature from directly within the layout mode.

Adobe Photoshop Elements 9 Plus: For added convenience, now Photoshop Elements 9 Windows and Mac users have the option to purchase Plus, which offers 20GB of storage for automatic online backup and sharing (up to 15,000 photos or four hours of DVD-quality video), as well as ongoing deliveries of new tutorials, artwork and interactive online templates sent directly to the desktop software. A benefit to all Photoshop Elements users is virtually anywhere access to photos and videos online or via select mobile devices at Photoshop.com.

Adobe Premiere Elements 9

Premiere Elements 9 allows users to turn raw video footage into professional-looking movies in minutes, and share that content with friends and family virtually everywhere. It is the first time that Premiere Elements is available on the Mac platform.

"With video-capturing devices on the rise, people are looking for a complete video organizing, editing and sharing tool that is easy to learn and use," Connor said. "We are very excited that our latest version of award-winning Premiere Elements software will enable both Mac and Windows users to create high-impact movies quickly and effortlessly. Taking advantage of intelligent features and boosted performance, the software allows users to get creative and make fun movies without a steep learning curve."



Features of Adobe Premiere Elements 9 include:

Smart Organization for all Video Clips: Premiere Elements users can take advantage of an easy-to-use Organizer, which acts as a media management hub, where both video clips and still photos can be accessed in one convenient location. The software easily imports a variety of file types from different devices including the popular Flip Video camera and video from DSLR cameras. Users can quickly find the best videos with the Auto-Analyzer that automatically tags the most interesting, highest quality video footage eliminating the hassle of clicking through dozens of clips to find the great ones.

Take the Work Out of Moviemaking: With Premiere Elements 9, users can create eye-catching videos in just minutes, easily fix audio problems, automatically trim away bad footage, stabilize shaky shots, and correct bad color and lighting. Once users select the footage they want, movies can be created instantly or enhanced with professional flair in just a few clicks or with simple drag and drop effects, like the Cartoon Effect, which turns any video into an animated feature. Optimized performance also makes editing and viewing smooth, even in HD.

In addition, friends and family can experience an interactive DVD-like viewing experience on the Web or share directly to Facebook and YouTube via interactive albums.

Plus Extends Software Capabilities: For added convenience, Adobe Premiere Elements 9 Windows and Mac users now have the option to purchase Plus, which offers 20GB of storage for automatic online backup and sharing (up to 15,000 photos or four hours of DVD-quality video), as well as ongoing deliveries of creative extras sent directly to the desktop software. A benefit to all Photoshop Elements users is virtually anywhere access to photos and videos online or via select mobile devices at Photoshop.com.
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It is nice to see Adobe coming back to the Mac platform after so many years!
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Wow. Look at all the iPhoto duplication. Way to be innovative Adobe!
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On the PC side, Premiere Elements takes a lot of flack for being buggy. And by my personal experence the more recent versions of Photoshop can be quite unstable - particularly compared to older versions that were once rock solid, fast, and generally great. I hope Adobe gets their act together.
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So, the Photoshop content aware spot healing feature sounds pretty good (rather better than the current iPhoto 'retouch' feature), but the rest of it I can take or leave.

As for Premier -- what can it do for me that iMovie doesn't already? Anybody know?
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Aside from professionals, why pay for image editing software anymore when you have excellent free alternatives?
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It is nice to see Adobe coming back to the Mac platform after so many years!

The only thing I appreciate about Adobe nowadays is that they have made such awful crap and for so many years, that one doesn't have to even think about them anymore. They are history and basically just waiting to die. For instance I didn't even read this article because I know that it literally doesn't matter what they do, Adobe is simply incapable of making good software. So it's kind of a great relief not to have to worry about it anymore IMO.

Look at it this way. If some super crappy car maker like Lada or something, makes shit cars year after year after year, and then they come out with something that they say is good this time. Why would you buy it? Even if this time your best friends try it and say it's actually a good one this time, even if all the reviewers in all the car magazines on the planet say it's finally an okay product. You'd still be foolish to buy it.

I'm not going to even be paying attention to Adobe products until they release not one, but at least two or three good revisions in a row. I would bet money it won't happen. I would bet money (again, without using it, seeing it or reading reviews of it), that this product right here will have some horrible UI flaws and gotchas and that people will be complaining about it in due course. That's how certain I am about the "skills" of Adobe's software designers.

Leopards don't change their spots. Adobe can't make good software. Period.
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Adobe on Tuesday announced the launch of Photoshop Elements 9 and Premiere Elements 9 for both Mac and Windows, with "groundbreaking features" added to the No. 1 selling consumer photo- and video-editing software.



Adobe is a true friend to Apple. They can't be making much off of this software.
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I just deposited my $20 rebate for PE8 in the bank yesterday. Of course, there's no free upgrade path from 8 to 9, even though I just bought 8. For the little I actually use the app, I think I'm done with it.
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Adobe has already shown its true colors by abandoning Mac programs (read "Premiere") in the past. Don't buy this program and get burned again! Final Cut Express is a much better alternative anyway!

I LOVE the asterisk on the box after "The #1 selling consumer video-editing software*". It leads to the word "Windows". Ahahahaha...'nuff said!
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As for Premier -- what can it do for me that iMovie doesn't already? Anybody know?

Much as Adobe is clearly out of favour these days I am a little surprised by the negative attitude towards Premiere Elements. Not that I have tried it but does anybody remember the pages up and pages down of complaints over iMovie 8 and 9? I get a feeling Adobe has done this because Apple left a gaping hole between iMovie 6 and iMovie 8.
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I LOVE the asterisk on the box after "The #1 selling consumer video-editing software*". It leads to the word "Windows". Ahahahaha...'nuff said!

Does OSX have a #1 selling title in any consumer category? What did you expect to see?
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It is nice to see Adobe coming back to the Mac platform after so many years!

Sorry - did I miss something? I've been a mac user since 1987 and can't remember a time without Adobe. I've always found the software well featured, stable and the leader in it's class. Keep up the good work Adobe.
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I remember trying Photoshop Elements 4 and 6, but the experience was horrible.

iPhoto isn't bad at cropping, removing red eye from most photos and printing, but it does a lousy job of adjusting levels and colour and can't make spot edits where the red eye tool fails. To do those adjustments I've been dragging along an old copy of Photoshop from the very first CS package by migrating my hard drive from one OS to another. When Apple finally kills support for PPC I'll have to look for another tool.
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Sorry - did I miss something? I've been a mac user since 1987 and can't remember a time without Adobe. I've always found the software well featured, stable and the leader in it's class. Keep up the good work Adobe.

It was an obviously too subtle dig about their history of not supporting Apple as well as they could have since they switched their primary focus to Windows many moons ago.
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This may not be the correct forum for this, but I've been interested in getting some basic video editing software for a little while now. I'm no expert though and don't know the proper jargon for what I want to do and am wondering if Premiere Elements or Final Cut Express will do what I want.

I would like to make videos of my friends band performing live. I'd like to be able to import audio recorded from the soundboard and multiple video angles (at least 2, but more would be cool) and get them time synced so i can switch between the different angles easily depending on which shot is better at any given moment. Will either of these applications do that? I hope I explained it clearly enough and am not too far off topic.
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This may not be the correct forum for this, but I've been interested in getting some basic video editing software for a little while now. I'm no expert though and don't know the proper jargon for what I want to do and am wondering if Premiere Elements or Final Cut Express will do what I want.

I would like to make videos of my friends band performing live. I'd like to be able to import audio recorded from the soundboard and multiple video angles (at least 2, but more would be cool) and get them time synced so i can switch between the different angles easily depending on which shot is better at any given moment. Will either of these applications do that? I hope I explained it clearly enough and am not too far off topic.

I'd love some input on this as well, as I am looking at a similar situation here. Please chime in if anyone has info or experience to share.
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Adobe has already shown its true colors by abandoning Mac programs (read "Premiere") in the past. Don't buy this program and get burned again! Final Cut Express is a much better alternative anyway!

Is Final Cut OS X-native (Cocoa) yet?
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Look at it this way. If some super crappy car maker like Lada or something, makes shit cars year after year after year, and then they come out with something that they say is good this time. Why would you buy it? Even if this time your best friends try it and say it's actually a good one this time, even if all the reviewers in all the car magazines on the planet say it's finally an okay product. You'd still be foolish to buy it.

Careful, Skoda.

But no, I wouldn't buy one. I'm no Adobe fan, I have CS4 and still think they're stuck in the '80s and this suite appears to have little to offer that isn't shipped free in iLife (a 'media hub' who'd have thought it!). I'm sure on the epitome of design inconsistency that is Windows Adobe are still King but the opportunity to pay for mediocrity doesn't inspire.

The irony is Adobe originally pulling Premiere was the catalyst for both the Apple-Adobe spat and Apple's video success which financed them through the dark years. Too little, too late Adobe.

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I remember trying Photoshop Elements 4 and 6, but the experience was horrible.

iPhoto isn't bad at cropping, removing red eye from most photos and printing, but it does a lousy job of adjusting levels and colour and can't make spot edits where the red eye tool fails. To do those adjustments I've been dragging along an old copy of Photoshop from the very first CS package by migrating my hard drive from one OS to another. When Apple finally kills support for PPC I'll have to look for another tool.

Aperture 3? A bit like Lr but half the price & integrated.

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What a bunch of homers. You people should actually try a tool before you rip on it.

There is no comparison between iPhoto and Photoshop Elements. iPhoto gives organization and very basic editing but PSE gives much more. Layers, levels, various selection tools, etc. For most enthusiasts, it is all you need.

I have used iMovie, Final Cut Express, and Premiere Elements. iMovie is a joke but used for quick YouTube videos. It used to be much better but Apple castrated it. Final Cut Express is OK but I find it limited in file import and output formats. Premiere Elements is very versatile, accepts and renders a huge number of formats, is easy to learn, very powerful, and you can import, edit, author, and write DVDs from within the same tool. It also suport AVCHD output and writes to blu-ray (on the PC). My biggest use is editing AVCHD home footage, editing, and writing AVCHD files to a standard DVD that can be viewed on any Blu-Ray player. I cannot find a way to do that in Final Cut Express. It will make a very nice addition to the Mac lineup.

You can typically find the bundle of both programs for $99 if you look hard. Hell of a deal. I have been using both for years and find them very stable.

BTW, I use a MacBook Pro, 64 bit Windows 7, Android phone, and an iPad. No fanboyism here
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T...I've been interested in getting some basic video editing software for a little while now. I'm no expert though...

I would like to make videos of my friends band performing live. I'd like to be able to import audio recorded from the soundboard and multiple video angles (at least 2, but more would be cool) and get them time synced so i can switch between the different angles easily depending on which shot is better at any given moment. Will either of these applications do that? I hope I explained it clearly enough and am not too far off topic.

iMovie will NOT do this. Final Cut Express sounds like the tool you want. I used Premiere ages ago, and it would have worked as well, but I don't know anything about the new Premiere Elements. Final Cut's support for AVCHD is rather weak, (Auto conversion on import to BIG intermediate files.) so if you are using that kind of camera, you might want to check if Premiere Elements does better.
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What a bunch of homers. You people should actually try a tool before you rip on it.

There is no comparison between iPhoto and Photoshop Elements. iPhoto gives organization and very basic editing but PSE gives much more. Layers, levels, various selection tools, etc. For most enthusiasts, it is all you need.

I have used iMovie, Final Cut Express, and Premiere Elements. iMovie is a joke but used for quick YouTube videos. It used to be much better but Apple castrated it. Final Cut Express is OK but I find it limited in file import and output formats. Premiere Elements is very versatile, accepts and renders a huge number of formats, is easy to learn, very powerful, and you can import, edit, author, and write DVDs from within the same tool. It also suport AVCHD output and writes to blu-ray (on the PC). My biggest use is editing AVCHD home footage, editing, and writing AVCHD files to a standard DVD that can be viewed on any Blu-Ray player. I cannot find a way to do that in Final Cut Express. It will make a very nice addition to the Mac lineup.

You can typically find the bundle of both programs for $99 if you look hard. Hell of a deal. I have been using both for years and find them very stable.

BTW, I use a MacBook Pro, 64 bit Windows 7, Android phone, and an iPad. No fanboyism here

Yeah. So you posted this a year and a half ago:

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You can get Adobe Premiere Elements and Photoshop Elements for $99. Photoshop Elements is a much better editor than iPhoto and Premiere Elements rocks. You can edit HDV or AVCHD without converting to an Apple format and encode either back to AVCHD to write to a standard DVD or Blu-Ray. You can't do that with iMovie or FCE.

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Picasa is available on the Mac and I use it often

I have Photoshop Elements and Premiere Elements on Windows ($99 for the package) which are light years ahead of iPhoto, iMovie, and iDVD.

I liked iMovie 6 much better than the current version. The encoding used in iDVD is poor and pixelated and choppy compared to Premiere Elements.

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Apple will not let you run OS X on a PC because they would rather have you pay for their overpriced hardware. They should open the restrictions and see how that goes. The lack of driver support for OS X would be an issue as Windows must work with all hardware while OS X only works with select hardware.

I have not run virus or spyware protection on my PC for years without issues. You just have to be cognizant of what you are doing.

I use Adobe Photoshop Elements and Premiere Elements which I find much better then iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, and Final Cut Express. The package only costs $99. iPhoto is not a photo editor so you need to buy one anyway for any halfway serious photo editing.

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Really, I thought I was the first ever. Thank you for correcting me!

A lot of Mac users aren't cognizant, just read the forums.

New Macs do come with iLife but you must purchase every year to stay current. I wouldn't say this is absolutely free. iPhoto sucks as it is not a real photo editor and forces a directory structure on the user. Picasa is much better and free as an organizer and PhotoShop Elements is a great cheap editor. Too bad the Mac version is always a year behind. Windows Photo Gallery that comes with Vista is better than iPhoto IMO. iMovie is a joke anymore and not much better than Movie Maker. I would recommend buying a better video editor. iDVD is very limited and there are free alternatives for the PC. Likewise, there are several free Web creators for the PC with more capability. I personally have not used GarageBand much (nor do I know many that have) so I cannot comment.

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You can find Premiere and Photoshop Elements bundles for $99 at Best Buy and Amazon if you look (retails for $120 but often on sale). Premiere Elements does author DVDs and has many other output options including burning Blu-Ray discs. You can also output an AVCHD file and burn on a standard DVD that will play in Blu-Ray players.

All of this amid gratuitous sneering at "fan boys" and general PC boosterism, and being the sum total of your posts, all within a week. Then not a peep until there's an occasion, a year and a half later to run your Adobe shilling again.

So lets say you take your "fan boy" and "homer" and "you people" talk and shove it up your ass, shill boy.
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The only thing I appreciate about Adobe nowadays is that they have made such awful crap and for so many years, that one doesn't have to even think about them anymore.

Yes. You don't have to think about them anymore.

That is, if you DON'T HAVE to do anything professionally in the industry that Adobe caters to: the creative industry.

Because there Adobe does not make "awful crap". It makes the DE FACTO leaders of the industry, regarding bitmap editing, vector editing and DTP, and some top of the line products regarding video editing, compositing and timeline effects and photography workflow.

That said, Adobe UIs are a lot of time messy, and they haven't integrated UI, behavior and functionality between their offerings. They also have crappy installers. Furthermore, they haven't made any real progress with making Flash bug-free, fast and relevant, and they have a tendency to shoehorn Flash integration in their apps where it is not needed or even wanted (like in Acrobat, say, or as a UI extension mechanism).

Those are, mainly, their flaws...

But "awful crap"?

How about ignorant overreaction from a non-interested party?
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iMovie will NOT do this. Final Cut Express sounds like the tool you want. I used Premiere ages ago, and it would have worked as well, but I don't know anything about the new Premiere Elements. Final Cut's support for AVCHD is rather weak, (Auto conversion on import to BIG intermediate files.) so if you are using that kind of camera, you might want to check if Premiere Elements does better.

Is there a technical name for what I'm trying to do so I can research it more?
Thanks for the info!
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Saying why get PSE when you can use Picasa is like saying why work on a canvas with brushes and paint when you can sit over there with crayons and a box of Staples copy paper.

And of all of the similarly priced pixel based image apps for OSX, NONE let you work in 16 bit AT ALL except for GIMP. Elements may have a slew of functions grayed out, but at least it doesn't truncate it into 8 bits upon opening. No idea about Picasa, since it's not nearly as useful besides.
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Is there a technical name for what I'm trying to do so I can research it more?
Thanks for the info!

You're wanting to do basic non-linear editing stuff. iMovie could do this, and although I haven't used it, I'm sure Final Cut Express could too. The time code sync is probably the biggest sticking point. Consumer level cameras don't put "real" time code on their recorded video. I believe professionally this is done with an outboard time code providing device. So syncing video from multiple cameras with an audio track could be kind of challenging. Try Googling around for "multi camera editing" and see if anything useful pops up.

Here's a really good thread on the subject: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/final-cu...t-express.html

As you said, this isn't really the forum for detailed technical discussion of such things, but there are enough smart people around to point you in the right direction.

- Jasen.

P.S. On topic: I haven't read any reviews or previews on Adobe's new offerings, but I hope they give Final Cut Express a run for it's money. Many people work in dual-platform environments and having the same software on Mac & Windows will be nice.
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Aside from professionals, why pay for image editing software anymore when you have excellent free alternatives?

I find that for most things, Picassa works great.
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The only thing I appreciate about Adobe nowadays is that they have made such awful crap and for so many years, that one doesn't have to even think about them anymore. They are history and basically just waiting to die. For instance I didn't even read this article because I know that it literally doesn't matter what they do, Adobe is simply incapable of making good software. So it's kind of a great relief not to have to worry about it anymore IMO.

Look at it this way. If some super crappy car maker like Lada or something, makes shit cars year after year after year, and then they come out with something that they say is good this time. Why would you buy it? Even if this time your best friends try it and say it's actually a good one this time, even if all the reviewers in all the car magazines on the planet say it's finally an okay product. You'd still be foolish to buy it.

I'm not going to even be paying attention to Adobe products until they release not one, but at least two or three good revisions in a row. I would bet money it won't happen. I would bet money (again, without using it, seeing it or reading reviews of it), that this product right here will have some horrible UI flaws and gotchas and that people will be complaining about it in due course. That's how certain I am about the "skills" of Adobe's software designers.

Leopards don't change their spots. Adobe can't make good software. Period.

Well, koda is doing some very nice cars nowadays (after 50 years of crap). Even Top Gear had only good words for koda Yeti and Superb.
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