My Statement to Nations That Hate the US - Page 10

[quote]Originally posted by stimuli:
<strong>I stopped reading this thread about 6 pages ago, but I came across this article which seemed like a good link in light of the original post:

<a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2001/10/19/notes101901.DTL" target="_blank">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2001/10/19/notes101901.DTL</a>

Food for thought.</strong><hr></blockquote>


This is, without a doubt, the most idiotic thing I have ever read. I was midway through quoting and "systematically destroying" the article, when I lost interest. Suffice it to say the writer has bought into every ultra-left idea that there ever was, namely that Bush is dumb, Cheney is a crook, Rumsfeld is a liar, we shouldn't bomb a poor nation, the only good things about America are money and sex and drugs, and most importantly, that we can ignore this horrific attack on America.

My father said it best the other night: "Some people could just go on pretending 9/11 never happened....and their lives would pretty much be the same".

I would like to know what the writer's solution is. He never seemed to state one.

[quote] You use this as an example of liberal bias

It seems to me that I hear the same thing repeated non-stop from the conservative majority on these boards: namely, they are constantly saying that they hate Europeans because Europeans do not respect Bush's intellect. Does that mean that those people on these boards are exhibiting a liberal bias?!?!??! Or are they merely parrots of that vast media Communist conspiracy? <hr></blockquote>

1) Yes. I do use it as an example of bias by a supposed NEWS REPORTER.

2) I don't hate Europeans.


[quote]The President's sex life should be no business of ours regardless of location. Whether he does it in the White House or Motel 6, it his private affair and responsibility. He should not be made accountable to the American people for his private sex life. <hr></blockquote>

Are you kidding? The oval office? Please. Should he be accountable for lying?

[quote]Both you guys are wiggling now, What you're saying would not be in keeping with your assertion that liberals control the media.

To the other fellow : I didn't prove anyone's point with that other than to illustrate that for even consevatives it got more attention ( with all the ugly things going on in the world ) than it deserved.

I never saw any evidence of it being subtle. As a matter of fact that notion is laughable by your own admission " I agree that the media went ballistic with coverage ".

Still in check. <hr></blockquote>

1) Not wiggling. Not at all. I never said liberals control the media, which I assume means "own" (except Mr, Turner).

2) Missing subtle liberal bias is my whole point. Many don't even know when it is employed.

3) Amount of coverage and type of coverage are two different things.

[quote]Bush arrogance. The reporter was David Gregory of NBC. Bush failed to realize that many foreign reporters speak English at his Press Conferences.....<hr></blockquote>

Right. Bush is arrogant? Please. We all know David Gregory is the king of humility. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

[quote]You people disgust me. You are a bunch of poindexter's who need to get off the computer and get a life. Your pointless bickering will change nothing. <hr></blockquote>

ummmm..........
(PS: We like it)

[quote]I'm attempting to be the voice of reason in a group of argumentative, egotistical "geeks". The cro-magnum mentallity in the posts is almost laughable. <hr></blockquote>

Good attempt. I'm sure you read all 10 pages of the thread, too. Jack ass.

[quote]Stimuli, read those 5 pages you've skipped over. They're dramatic, fun to read, and addictive! I thoroughly enjoyed your "whispers in a stadium full of knee-jerks" comment! <hr></blockquote>

This has been a fun thread. I never thought it would go this far. :eek:

Well, that's it. This thread has been officially reduced to linking to stories with people dressed up in costume, discussing cow flatulence as it relates to global warming.

GAME OVER <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

[ 06-17-2002: Message edited by: SDW2001 ]</p>

Well,

That article is certainly written from a conservative point of view. But one cannnot ignore that it presents some very hard facts as well. And then there is this quote:

[quote] Commenting on the intrinsic bias of the press in a May 24 editorial in the Wall Street Journal, Bernard Goldberg, a former correspondent for CBS News, said: "It is this inability to see liberal views as liberal that is at the heart of the entire problem." <hr></blockquote>

Exactly. That is EXACTLY what I have been trying to say. You guys trying to argue that the media, as a whole, is not biased to the left is a joke. As I said, it is so biased it doesn't even know it. It is second nature!


sjpsu:

[quote]Ruhx, no one really cares about what you have to say. Put the links away and play nice now. <hr></blockquote>

I don't think it's up you.

jimmac:

[quote] Still in check. <hr></blockquote>

As if you have proven there is not bias in the media as a whole? As if we are struggling to prove it? I will try and return later with documentation. But, in the interim, anyone who doesn't believe there is tremendous bias in the media needs to hear this term:

"Election 2000"

'nuff said.

:cool:

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Oh, and though I don't have a link to this, I know for certain this accurate:

The press votes democratic by a 9 to 1 margin. No bias could ever come from that! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

You guys are absolutely kidding yourselves. The problem isn't always in the ownership, it is in the news directors, anchors, reporters, etc.

And, the press DOES vote 9-1 democratic as I said. That is a hard number to spin.

I would also say there is a difference between political "leaning" and flat out bias. My perceptions over the past years are as follows:

CNN: Left leaning.
MSNBC; Left leaning
ABC: Left BIAS
CBS Left BIAS
FoxNews: Conservative leaning
NBC: Left leaning, but only slightly.

And just so you folks know, the liberal bias in hollywood is even worse in my opinion, though at least that isn't portrayed as news.

Jimmac, I think my first part of the post addressed your question.

PS: Just to prove that I'm not out to "only hear my views" I am an avid watcher of the liberal leaning The West Wing TV drama. I know that's just a TV show, but there is no question that show leans hard left. It even directly pokes at Bush and was created by a flaming, screaming liberal, Aaron Sorkin. I watch it anyway because it is entertaining. So there.

[quote]Originally posted by powerdoc:
<strong>
Excuse the humble question of a foreigner : but how it's possible that 80 % of the media are leftie if halp the population of the US is republican. Does it means that all republicans read Fox new or that republicans read less than liberals ?</strong><hr></blockquote>

You are assuming that the media is split 50/50. As I said it is most definitely not. It votes 9 to 1 democratic, as I have now said twice before. That is 90% liberal views......much of which leaks onto the air.