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post #81 of 110
9/26/10 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by iancass79 View Post

I'm confused...how can Ping affect you buying stuff? What is happening when you try to buy content from iTunes?

Oh, you didn't know that your iTunes account is linked to ping? If your profile is messed up then you can't log in and purchase music.

I ended-up disabling Ping and then enabling it once more and that took care of the error messages I got trying to update my profile or logging into iTunes and purchasing.
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post #82 of 110
9/26/10 at 10:04am
The iTunes 10.0.1 release DID NOT fix the Apple TV sync issue. iTunes 10 does not autodiscover Apple TVs (first generation) on the home network and there is no longer a preferences option to discover Apple TVs. I have been through the online help (outdated!) and forum suggestions, but I can not get my Apple TV to find my MacBook Pro and connect to iTunes. How can Apple release a product update like this that doesn't even have proper support for its own products!?!
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post #83 of 110
9/26/10 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

So I guess that means nobody new or good uses FLAC.

Good to know.

If I am not mistaken, FLAC files are 2-4 times larger than MP3's. Certainly, one has to question the effect on bandwidth and the costs to store, distribute, service and support it, and who would be willing to cover such additional costs.

I don't see any evidence that it would receive any support from most who troll here if Apple or our ISPs were to charge extra for it.
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post #84 of 110
9/26/10 at 10:46am
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As stated earlier, I see that is Genius in the main side bar, not the Genius Sidebar. Mea culpa, but I do think some clarification could have been used knowing that there is a chance for ambiguity.

Yes, I realised that, thus the smiley. Apple called the genius sidebar "genius sidebar" when it debuted, so even though it's confusing I don't really know what else to call it.

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I right/Option-clicked mine and choose Remove or Delete, depending if yo are talking about Genius Mixes or Genius Playlists, respectively. You can also choose Hide next to Genius so you dont have to see them.

Yes, but again, you can only delete "all but one" genius mix, and while you can hide Genius in the source-list sidebar on the left, and you can hide Genius altogether from the preferences, you cannot eliminate the genius lists in the iPhone/iPad syncing window.

Even with Genius turned off those Genius lists show up in the syncing window, and as I said earlier, they periodically recreate themselves. I've had to delete the nine default genius playlists at least a dozen times since they appeared, and had to turn the little arrow to hide them on every single sync of my iPhone or iPad.

Perhaps I've made too much of it already in the effort to be clear about what I mean, but it is a seriously irritating "feature" that cannot be turned off. I'd probably be happy just to find a logical explanation as to why we can't turn it off.

That's mainly why I posted as it makes no sense. Often these kind of nonsensical things come down to user error (mine presumably in this case), and there is a way to do it but that it just can't be found by the user.
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post #85 of 110
9/26/10 at 10:49am
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If I am not mistaken, FLAC files are 2-4 times larger than MP3's. Certainly, one has to question the effect on bandwidth and the costs to store, distribute, service and support it, and who would be willing to cover such additional costs.

I don't see any evidence that it would receive any support from most who troll here if Apple or our ISPs were to charge extra for it.

I always figure about 1Mb/s for a modern lossless audio codec. Any lossless codec is then easily determined as they are often defined by their bitrates. So lossy (Mp3, AAC, whatever) for 320k is 1/3rd, 256k is 1/4th and 128k is 1/8th what I consider the average lossless audio codec.

But Apple supports ALAC (Apple Lossless Audio Codec), as well as AIFF and WAV, so it's not Apple's issue, nor do I think Peabody is suggesting distribute iTunes Store music as FLAC.

So question is why isn't FLAC supported? I bet it had to do with the other issues with Xiph.org codecs.
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post #86 of 110
9/26/10 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

I think it's kind of funny that you can "like" anything in your iTunes Library now.

You always could. You can even "like" stuff that isn't in your library.

Before, you would click the little arrow next to the album name to take you to the Store, then you click "Like". They've just replaced the little arrow with a pop-up menu
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post #87 of 110
9/26/10 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by noirdesir View Post

The less distracts you from the Store, the better:

Actually I try to avoid the iTunes Store, since I feel the interface and navigation are a desaster.
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post #88 of 110
9/26/10 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post

Er, yes I know that. That's why I said you could convert FLAC to ALAC. As they're both lossless codecs, there's no quality degradation in the conversion process.


Most of that is irrelevant. If you convert to AIFF as an intermediate step, you can use wavegain to "replay gain" the file, then convert to ALAC. AIFF supports metadata so you shouldn't lose any in the conversion process.

Just use Max, (http://sbooth.org/Max/) It converts your Flacs to ALAC with Apples own engine. It preserves all id tags and is opensource software under GPL. Used it alot already. Works perfectly

Apple doesn't care about Linux compatibility, and many people don't. Flac is BSD so they might use their code to enhance their own codec.

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I'll get slammed for saying this, but iTunes sucks. It badly needs to be rewritten. AFAIK it's still based on the old codebase from OS 9. It's dreadful on OS X, I shudder to think how it runs/walks on Windows. It does far too much, and all of it badly. The only reason people tolerate it (IMO) is because of the iPod/iPhone lock-in. My biggest compliant, and the reason I'll never use it, is that it does not properly support Libraries on another machine. But there's plenty of other ways it's bad.

I love pretty much everything Apple does, but iTunes is simply awful.

Can only agree here. It is even with the improvement in the 10. interation it is the worst pice of software on my mac. The problem is, as awful as iTunes is, there aren't any good alternatives out there.
Songbird is a mess and still slower, aTunes is nice but doesn't have a lot of features.
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post #89 of 110
9/26/10 at 4:26pm
are good but it really sucks. hoping for better. how can you have a social network on music and not have the beatles. it should not matter if i can't buy their music on itunes. have no interest in lady kha-kha or katy perry.
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post #90 of 110
9/26/10 at 4:54pm
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are good but it really sucks. hoping for better. how can you have a social network on music and not have the beatles. it should not matter if i can't buy their music on itunes. have no interest in lady kha-kha or katy perry.

They broke up in 1970. Since then 2 of them have died. It's safe to say following them on Ping might be not quite so interesting.

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post #91 of 110
9/27/10 at 7:32am
Main issue I have found with iTunes 10 is that when loading a Music CD, it does not pull the name, artist and track info, let alone the album art. Does the update address this?
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post #92 of 110
9/27/10 at 7:39am
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Main issue I have found with iTunes 10 is that when loading a Music CD, it does not pull the name, artist and track info, let alone the album art. Does the update address this?

There is a setting under Preferences » General to "Automatically retrieve CD track names from Internet". I believe they are still use Gracenote for this service.
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post #93 of 110
9/27/10 at 7:45am
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There is a setting under Preferences » General to "Automatically retrieve CD track names from Internet". I believe they are still use Gracenote for this service.

Yes, that is enabled but does not work.
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post #94 of 110
9/27/10 at 8:00am
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Yes, that is enabled but does not work.

Mine works fine. Did you block the call in Little Snitch or something?
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post #95 of 110
9/27/10 at 8:02am
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Originally Posted by Matthew64 View Post

Yes, that is enabled but does not work.

In  » System Preferences » Security » Firewall tab is your Firewall on. If so, under Advanced does iTunes have the ability to connect Allow Incoming Connections?

edit: And what tonton said.
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post #96 of 110
9/27/10 at 9:08am
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Originally Posted by tubbytee View Post

are good but it really sucks. hoping for better. how can you have a social network on music and not have the beatles. it should not matter if i can't buy their music on itunes. have no interest in lady kha-kha or katy perry.

Ping is, as Apple so clearly positions, is A Social Network for Music to help discover new music.

Most important, because of agreements made to artists, producers, distributors, etc., Apple can only apply the service to products they are legally contracted to. And the Beatles is not one of them.

Any effort by Apple to facilitate or include music outside of what Apple has a legal right to via the iTunes store would immediately start a legal action against them.

Note, however, you as an individual would be in your right to add the Beatles in your commentary.
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post #97 of 110
9/27/10 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Yes, I realised that, thus the smiley. Apple called the genius sidebar "genius sidebar" when it debuted, so even though it's confusing I don't really know what else to call it.

Yes, but again, you can only delete "all but one" genius mix, and while you can hide Genius in the source-list sidebar on the left, and you can hide Genius altogether from the preferences, you cannot eliminate the genius lists in the iPhone/iPad syncing window.

Even with Genius turned off those Genius lists show up in the syncing window, and as I said earlier, they periodically recreate themselves. I've had to delete the nine default genius playlists at least a dozen times since they appeared, and had to turn the little arrow to hide them on every single sync of my iPhone or iPad.

Perhaps I've made too much of it already in the effort to be clear about what I mean, but it is a seriously irritating "feature" that cannot be turned off. I'd probably be happy just to find a logical explanation as to why we can't turn it off.

That's mainly why I posted as it makes no sense. Often these kind of nonsensical things come down to user error (mine presumably in this case), and there is a way to do it but that it just can't be found by the user.

Not that I really know anything about these issues as I've never turned on Genuis Bar or Ping but I don't have these issues at all. I would imagine there is some folder(s) or file(s) created on your computer, like in a Library folder on a Mac, that stores this information that could be deleted, if anyone could find it to begin with. I never turned this stuff on and have no intentions of doing so in the future because I hate when my computers or applications try to anticipate what I "Might" want to do. I have no trouble deciding, on my own, what I want to purchase or play at any given moment and don't want any suggestions, ever. One of my favorite sayings is "If I want your opinion I will give it to you".
But really, I'm not trying to change anyone's way of doing things or telling them what they want or don't want, just suggesting that there may be a file(s) left behind on your HDD even when you uninstall and reinstall iTunes that is causing this.
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post #98 of 110
9/27/10 at 11:00am
One of the issues I've had since 10, and remaining with 10.0.1, is that every time I open iTunes, I get a prompt asking if I want to have iTunes accept incoming connections. The deal is that I already have iTunes set to accept incoming connections in the Firewall preferences, yet it still does this. Any way to fix that? Thanks!
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post #99 of 110
9/27/10 at 11:20am
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One of the issues I've had since 10, and remaining with 10.0.1, is that every time I open iTunes, I get a prompt asking if I want to have iTunes accept incoming connections. The deal is that I already have iTunes set to accept incoming connections in the Firewall preferences, yet it still does this. Any way to fix that? Thanks!

I don't have this issue. The one issue I do have is EVERY TIME I update iOS apps, and click "Download all free updates" I get two error messages and have to dismiss the errors and repeat the click. It's annoying.
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post #100 of 110
9/27/10 at 11:25am
I really like one of the Genius Mixes. How do I copy that mix to a playlist so I can use it on my "fat" 160GB iPod Classic?

Edit: Found this.
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post #101 of 110
9/27/10 at 11:54am
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One of the issues I've had since 10, and remaining with 10.0.1, is that every time I open iTunes, I get a prompt asking if I want to have iTunes accept incoming connections. The deal is that I already have iTunes set to accept incoming connections in the Firewall preferences, yet it still does this. Any way to fix that? Thanks!

I get this too but attribute this to having monkeyed with the icons and broken the signed status of the app. I don't know if even the Terminal commands can break the signed status.
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post #102 of 110
9/27/10 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by Superbass View Post

Apple lossless is not FLAC. Neither is WMA lossless, for that matter. While they're both lossless, FLAC is a far more popular format despite not being supported by Quicktime/Apple.

In 20 years, do I want all of my music being stored in the digital equivalent of BETA tapes? Or the musical equivalent of .lwp files? I understand there'll probably be a converter created in that eventuality, which will be a pain in the ass.

I agree that it's all speculation so here are the other pros of FLAC over Apple Lossless:

-it supports CUE sheets
-it includes MD5 hashes so you can check integrity of files very easily
-pipe support
-replay gain compatible
-it's still being actively developed, so improvements to metadata/tagging, for example, are reflected in the Codec
-it's open source
-it's supported in Linux


Anyways, would it really be that difficult for Apple to implement? They can jam the "Genius" and "Ping" in, but can't add the most popular Lossless Codec to the player?

I don't know why it's such a big deal - both ALAC and FLAC can easily (losslessly) be converted to AIFF.
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post #103 of 110
9/27/10 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

After some research, it seems that the complaint about grey icons is basically lame in that other similar programs are similarly adorned, and that the complaint about the Ping drop-down being everywhere is especially lame because it's more or less what people were asking for just last week.

Who exactly was asking for Ping to be even more in your face? What I saw was a majority of people asking how they could remove PIng from iTunes totally, so it's name doesn't even appear in the sidebar.
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post #104 of 110
9/28/10 at 8:22am
Did they 'fix' the retarded open/close buttons being on the left side?
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post #105 of 110
9/28/10 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by pondosinatra View Post

Did they 'fix' the retarded open/close buttons being on the left side?

If its intentional, there is nothing for them to fix.
If you dont like the change, find a resolution.
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post #106 of 110
9/28/10 at 2:46pm
I agree. The new PING thing really irritates me. And I miss the Genius bar as it WAS. I found a lot of good music with the Genius bar, but I'm not at all interested in Facebook for iTunes.

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It seems at first sight to replace my genius bar with a Ping bar and give me no option to return it. This is a shame since literally the *only* good thing about the Genius thing is the genius bar connection to iTunes.

Also seems to screw up a lot of my cover art.

I'm getting really sick of the crap they are folding into iTunes that doesn't give you the option of removing it. The "Genius mixes" (that I don't ever want to see but are un-removeable), jumping in your face every time you sync are bad enough, and they might want to fix the broken implementation of cover-flow first also.

I wish there was a serious alternative out there that wasn't going to give users more hassle than Apples implementation of iTunes does.
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post #107 of 110
9/29/10 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

If its intentional, there is nothing for them to fix.
If you dont like the change, find a resolution.

I have, I won't be upgrading.
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post #108 of 110
9/30/10 at 11:57am
Does anyone have a way to make Ping totally disappear?

For those who use it, I'm sure it is great. For the rest of us, it is no more than a major irritant.
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post #109 of 110
9/30/10 at 12:02pm
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Does anyone have a way to make Ping totally disappear?

For those who use it, I'm sure it is great. For the rest of us, it is no more than a major irritant.

I don't have version 10 installed so can't verify if this makes Ping "totally" disappear, but you may find it useful.
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post #110 of 110
9/30/10 at 2:23pm
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Does anyone have a way to make Ping totally disappear?

For those who use it, I'm sure it is great. For the rest of us, it is no more than a major irritant.

Check out OSX Daily website to remove ping sidebar and drop down menu.

http://osxdaily.com/2010/09/25/disab...-ping-sidebar/
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