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Dell to launch 7-inch tablet in 'next few weeks' to challenge iPad

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U.S. computer maker Dell reportedly plans to take on Apple's iPad with a smaller, 7-inch device set to launch in a matter of weeks, as well as a 10-inch touchscreen device planned to debut in the next year.

As noted Wednesday by The Wall Street Journal, the president of Dell in Greater China revealed that the 7-inch tablet, shown off briefly last week by CEO Michael Dell, will launch "within the next few weeks." The device will run Google's Android mobile operating system.

Amit Midha of Dell also indicated that his company plans to launch "a whole slew" of new products in the next 6-12 months, including a 10-inch tablet closer in size to Apple's 9.7-inch iPad. Midha said his company will offer products in multiple sizes, including three and four inches, and some of them will run Microsoft Windows instead of Android.

He also revealed that Dell will provide tablets running Google's lightweight Chrome OS operating system, designed for low-cost netbooks and lightweight portable devices. Google's browser-based operating system is set to launch this fall.

In August, Dell launched the Streak, a 5-inch device that functions as a smartphone, but has been pitched by the computer maker as a "tablet." The device runs on the AT&T network in the U.S., and costs $299 with a two-year contract, or $549 without. It also runs Android 1.6, though an update to Froyo 2.2 is planned.

Device makers like Dell are clamoring to break in to the touchscreen tablet market, where Apple has made a splash with the success of its multi-touch iPad. The iPad sold more than 3 million in its first three months, and retail expansion is expected to help push the device to 21 million in 2011.
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"a whole slew"
these people just don't get it.
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"a whole slew"
these people just don't get it.

Not saying the Dell stuff will do well (it will be a flop). But in general, people like choices... Lots of choices...
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IPad supports up to 11 muti-touches, this rubbish dell tablet , NO doubt and NO need to even look at the spec and , No need to even think and ask , cant support more than 3 muti-touches
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IPad supports up to 11 muti-touches, this rubbish dell tablet , NO doubt and NO need to even look at the spec and , No need to even think and ask , cant support more than 3 muti-touches

Can you name a couple of apps that support 11 multi-touches... 11 mutli-touches seems like a useless spec to me.
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These HW companies will keep pushing, but you just can’t use the competition's products, interfaces are badly designed and they lack the Road-Maps of OS.

Anyone buying Dell tab will be forced by company policy or given as a present... I bet in the new year in the UK, tablets will be given free with some 24 month phone plans - so nothing new there.
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Dell needed was!

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Can you name a couple of apps that support 11 multi-touches... 11 mutli-touches seems like a useless spec to me.

WHy are there lots of people who still ask me this question... have u ever played with your friends on ipad!! Apple gives the best tool , it is only if the developers can develop apps that take advantage of the powerful muti-touch by Apple .
Also , I am talking of the advanced technology given by Apple... NO devices in consumer market give u more than 10 muti-touches , that can be Bought now.

Other tablet companies just dont know why we need to TOUCH a device!! We want more interaction with more muti-touches!! Instead of USB , Cam , Same crappy os that work well with keyboard and mouse.
-- these cheap easily made things..
Apple gives u something HIGHER and apple is truly quietly billiant .
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These guys are desperate. They must be losing a lot of sales to the iPad and are now just slapping together whatever they can. And it's got to be driving Microsoft nuts that everybody is running to Android instead of Windows.

Har har har.
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Why don't Dell stick to making laptops and pc's and leave apple to make i pads.The 7inch dell is way to small.Forget it.
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...revealed that the 7-inch tablet, shown off briefly last week by CEO Michael Dell, will launch "within the next few weeks." The device will run Google's Android mobile operating system.

...and some of them will run Microsoft Windows instead of Android.

He also revealed that Dell will provide tablets running Google's lightweight Chrome OS operating system...


Hmmmmmmm... Android, Chrome OS, Windows... hey Mike... you missed Web OS!

Their business plan is based upon the theory that if you throw enough shit at the wall some of it is bound to stick!
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Not saying the Dell stuff will do well (it will be a flop). But in general, people like choices... Lots of choices...

You might be right, but then people take longer to decide and become confused.

"Should I get the 3" or the 4" Dell Tablet? ... I could always get the Streak? Oh, the 7" is only a little bit more money too, maybe I should get that? Or, I could just wait for the 10" coming later this year. Ah, screw it, I'll buy an iPad."

If I'm buying gadgets I tend to research into what I'm thinking of buying quite a lot before I get it. As I'm sure most people here will. The average consumer, who is likely not as tech-savvy as most of us, will see all of these Dell products and just be confused. They see the iPad, and they all look the same and they're easy to understand. Do you want a lot of music and video storage? Buy a bigger iPad. Do you want internet on the go? Buy a 3G iPad. Otherwise, they're all identical.

Choice is an amazing thing for people like us. It's not for the average consumer.
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Let the clone war begin!

In any case, this is good news as Dell is going to push the price down.
In terms of competition, the Blackberry Playbook poses the biggest challenge in terms of specs and UI IMHO. Also, it looks like the majority of the newcomers are opting for the 7" format which is lighter and requires only one hand. I like it.

I do hope Apple revamps the UI of the iPAD. They were one of the first to implement Cover Flow and now everyone is copying them. So it makes sense to see it on the IPAD. The grid layout is getting old.
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Poor guys, Dell and RIM are both going to fail miserably in the tablet market space, and all this will be a good thing, because it will continue to cannibalize microsofts efforts in the mobile sector, as no one will be striving to put Winmo on their devices.
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Let the clone war begin!

In any case, this is good news as Dell is going to push the price down.
In terms of competition, the Blackberry Playbook poses the biggest challenge in terms of specs and UI IMHO. Also, it looks like the majority of the newcomers are opting for the 7" format which is lighter and requires only one hand. I like it.

I do hope Apple revamps the UI of the iPAD. They were one of the first to implement Cover Flow and now everyone is copying them. So it makes sense to see it on the IPAD. The grid layout is getting old.

i am addicted to the ipad now. the 10 is great but i won't carry it everywhere. a 7" ipad and i would take it everywhere.
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Can you name a couple of apps that support 11 multi-touches... 11 mutli-touches seems like a useless spec to me.

a piano possibly?
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Poor guys, Dell and RIM are both going to fail miserably in the tablet market space, and all this will be a good thing, because it will continue to cannibalize microsofts efforts in the mobile sector, as no one will be striving to put Winmo on their devices.

i think anyone who isn't listening to google about android not being a good choice for a pad until 3.0 is crazy. and it hurts the product. put out sh*t based on something that doesn't work well and people get put off completely and jump ship.
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Here comes Dell! It will be black and plastic, and half of them will fail right out of the box. But it will have Office and Exchange and on-site support, and a projector connection, and dark-suited businessmen will be carrying them around the office in no time.
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These HW companies are so pathetic (including RIMM). They don't have a creative bone in their bodies and now they are all making another race to the bottom by trying to compete in an area in which they are clueless and looking to others (Android, Chrome, MSFT) to bail them out. So sad. Not.

They are the same horrible low margin companies they allowed themselves to become years ago.
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Not saying the Dell stuff will do well (it will be a flop). But in general, people like choices... Lots of choices...

That isn't quite accurate. People like the idea of choice, but usually want convenience in the end. Apple has been capitalizing on that for a long time and have become the profit leaders in all megabit their business by offering less choice with a streamlined buying experience.

We can to Apple and Dell's PC ordering webpages for an example.


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Can you name a couple of apps that support 11 multi-touches... 11 mutli-touches seems like a useless spec to me.

All of them. The more number of points the smarter the system can be in determining an accidental touch or even you palm resting on the display. This is a good thing.
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Even though the resolution may be similar on the proposed smaller 7" tablets, remember that the iPad's 9.7" display is an optimum size to view one sheet of a standard A4 document. 7" might be too small for older eyes. My suspicion is that for productivity and document based activities the smaller tablets will require a lot of pinching and zooming. Better hope that multi-touch is well implemented....
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Can you name a couple of apps that support 11 multi-touches... 11 mutli-touches seems like a useless spec to me.

Check out UZU
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Hmmmmmmm... Android, Chrome OS, Windows... hey Mike... you missed Web OS!

Their business plan is based upon the theory that if you throw enough shit at the wall some of it is bound to stick!

He also missed MS DOS. Has he no respect for history!
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Device makers like Dell are clamoring to break in to the touchscreen tablet market, where Apple has made a splash with the success of its multi-touch iPad. The iPad sold more than 3 million in its first three months, and retail expansion is expected to help push the device to 21 million in 2011.

It should be made compulsory for anyone writing about the iPad to re-read what they (or their websites) wrote about the earliest iPod. Remember, at that time, there were many music players. Most bloggers then thought the iPod would FAIL big time - over-priced, Mac-only, requires iTunes etc. I don't recall seeing any "mea culpas" or apologies ........

Then they should be required to re-read what they (or their websites) wrote about the iPad. Again, bloggers thought the iPad would FAIL big time - for the same reasons and without any apologies ........

But in both cases, it is now an accepted fact by even the most blinkered bloggers that both of these product ranges were extremely successful. The BIG difference is that, with the iPod, Apple came from behind and competed with an existing product category. With the iPad, Apple came first and wrote the rule book.

Any new ideas these would-be "iPadalike" makers come up with, Apple has either already tried and rejected it or they have enough advance warning to build it in the next time. My guess is that it will pan out in a similar way to the iPod: iPad 70%, all others: 30%.
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It doesn't matter if you can't think of an app that uses 11-multitouches. Someone already mentioned piano, which was a good one, but 11-multitouches doesn't mean you'll NEED it, just that it's good UP TO 11 multi touches.

Maybe thinking of apps where you need 3, 4, or 5 fingers for whatever reason would be easier.

Either way, what a RETARDED THING TO BITCH ABOUT.
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Not saying the Dell stuff will do well (it will be a flop). But in general, people like choices... Lots of choices...

That's not really true. Market research has proven that too many options lock people out of making a clear decision and potentially out of deciding at all. If a single company offers multiple options for what the consumer views as one product it instills confusion and doubt that any one is the "best" choice.

People gripe that Apple manages a limited product line-up, but there are many, many advantages to that in both production and consumer mind-share.
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I know this has been said before (probably also by me), but I think the real secret behind Apple is that they do Hardware AND Software. Imagine sitting there and designing some hardware, and not knowing what the roadmap for e.g. Android is - and vice versa. At Apple, at a certain executive level, people know exactly what the need from the hardware and what from the software side. I think that has been true for Apple Computers, and it is even more true for these small form factor, even more purpose focussed devices, like the iOS devices.

I am looking forward to what HP is doing with the WebOS. This might be interesting. Also maybe RIM, as they design their own software for the PlayBook (funny name any way, sounds so Appleish). But as long as companies as Dell decide to put on Android or MS iPhoneOS or both on different products - I believe they will fail.
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I will tell you why this will fail, and it is not what you think. All these devices use what is known as LPDRR memory, (low power DDR), each ipad ships with 4 dies in the A4 processor. and Iphone ships with 2 and the Itouch ships with 2 too. Apple today is the largest purchaser of LPDDR memory in the market, they also bought up 1/2 of the total supply of these parts for 2011 to supply all their mobile products. This does not leave much for everyone else to us buy and use.

Even is any of these products are slightly successful most likely they will not be able to get supply and therefore they will be shortage and people will walk across the street and buy and Ipad since Apple will have supply.
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can you name a few which require 5 fingers? I can't think of any except the one already identified, which has been said to support all ten fingers and one toe.

Well, I see you are starting to ramp up your post rate to former levels, Newtron.
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I am looking forward to what HP is doing with the WebOS. This might be interesting.

At this point, to me, it looks like the RiM and HP are direct competitors for carving out tablet marketshare,
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post #31 of 129
Dell should do its investors a favor and shut down and give the money back to them.

Oh... wait... wasn't that...

If it's like their anemic "phone" it will be ridiculed by all the pundits.
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That's not really true. Market research has proven that too many options lock people out of making a clear decision and potentially out of deciding at all. If a single company offers multiple options for what the consumer views as one product it instills confusion and doubt that any one is the "best" choice.

People gripe that Apple manages a limited product line-up, but there are many, many advantages to that in both production and consumer mind-share.

An examples of too many choices/variants: Internal HD's for my iMac (any computer). Hours of freaking research at the end of which a choice is made yet you really don't know what you are getting nor if it will make a blind bit of difference had you made a different choice.

I like the Rolls Royce salesman who when asked how many horsepowers the engine had replied 'Plenty'. A little like Apple's Fast, Faster, Fastest descriptions.
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DUDE! You're getting a Dell...
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So.. Dell business plan is to throw as much junk as possible and hope something sticks. Genius!
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At this point, to me, it looks like the RiM and HP are direct competitors for carving out tablet marketshare,

up to this point in time, neither rim or hp has come up with a new & successful product, for years. only their original products, with some refinement, keep them going.
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Amazing the tone of this thread. I think you guys are really afraid of some competition.

You are pissing on the thing before it even comes out. Why don't you wait until you've had a chance to play with the thing before you...what's the hip word young people use today...dis it??

Make a 7 inch pad, put a camera on it and Adobe Flash so you can watch videos in the browser and you might have something there. Get developers to write great games for it and kids will love it.

Since Apple likes to release 1st editions of their products with features missing that should be common sense, I think there is a market for copy cat products if they offer features people want. And if they make it cheaper, all the better.
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The Droid X has a ~5 inch screen. It's a little too big for your pocket, so people clip them on their belt. And, at it's size; it is on the large side for a cell phone.

The iPad is at 9.7 inches and fits nicely in a case about the same size as a normal file. It's too big to fit on your belt, but is about the perfect size to carry. It's light weight, has a long battery life, and the design effort that went into it is amazing. Definitely a slam-dunk from half-court.

But, at 7 inches you are really too small to carry - but too large to clip on your belt. The screen isn't that much different from watching a movie or website on your Droid X. So, this unit is too large to be a phone, but too small to be a useful tablet.

This seems like a misfit appliance out of the gate.
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At this point, to me, it looks like the RiM and HP are direct competitors for carving out tablet marketshare,

Well, they certainly look like they will be directly competing for developers, at least. One has to wonder what HP is up to with webOS, though. At this point it seems almost dead, although, hibernating might be more accurate.
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Even though the resolution may be similar on the proposed smaller 7" tablets, remember that the iPad's 9.7" display is an optimum size to view one sheet of a standard A4 document. 7" might be too small for older eyes. My suspicion is that for productivity and document based activities the smaller tablets will require a lot of pinching and zooming. Better hope that multi-touch is well implemented....

True, and if all I wanted was something to read a magazine, newspaper, or text book, I'd likely want the larger size so I can see the layouts, read indiviual columns of text, etc. But there are so many other things that don't require a screen that size. And I (and many others, I suspect) would gladly trade a few extra multi-touch pinches and zoom for an even more portable device.
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At this point, to me, it looks like the RiM and HP are direct competitors for carving out tablet marketshare,

The profit or rather lack thereof amongst all those scrambling to get out pads running whatever OS will be horrific. As we have mentioned before they are all throwing together parts from various sources to make these things including the OS. It is going to be a blood bath out there except for Apple.
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