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A new survey of prospective smartphone buyers has found that hype from the iPhone 4 has died down, and Apple's smartphone is only slightly more preferable to consumers than devices running Google Android.

The results, released Thursday by ChangeWave Research, show that initial hype over the iPhone 4 has died down, and the competition between Apple's handset and devices running Google Android has returned to a horse race. Of 4,000 respondents polled on Sept. 23, 37 percent said they would prefer an Android phone, while 38 percent chose the iPhone.

Though Apple is still the top choice by a percent, its number is reduced from the 50 percent of future smartphone buyers who said they would opt for an iPhone 4 after it launched in June. In the same time, Google has seen an increase from its June number, in which 30 percent of respondents said they would choose Android.

"We've seen huge leaps forward for the Android OS in four of the last five ChangeWave surveys," the research firm said. "All told, it's a six-fold increase in consumer preference for the Google OS in a years time."

Market dominance for Apple and Google has come at the expense of Research in Motion's BlackBerry, Microsoft's Windows Mobile, and Palm's webOS. Since June, customer intent to buy a BlackBerry went up just 1 percent to reach 6 percent. Its 5 percent total in June was the lowest ChangeWave had ever seen RIM's handset drop.



Windows Mobile, meanwhile, lost a percent in the three-month span, and just 1 percent of respondents said they would like Microsoft's mobile operating system on their phone. And 0 percent chose Palm and HP's webOS.

Apple also leads in customer satisfaction, with 74 percent of respondents indicating they are "very satisfied" with their iPhone. Android came in second, with 65 percent giving such high approval.



Earlier this month, ChangeWave revealed that the presence of Apple's iOS in the corporate market is still nearly double that of Google Android, but still well behind RIM's BlackBerry. And in August, another survey from the company found that iPhone 4 owners reported fewer dropped calls than those who have an iPhone 3GS.
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I wonder how many of those interested in Android are Verizon subscribers? How many of those, as well as those on AT&T, are sick and tired of waiting for an iPhone 4?
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I wonder how many of those interested in Android are Verizon subscribers? How many of those, as well as those on AT&T, are sick and tired of waiting for an iPhone 4?

Good question, because that is a serious drop in iOS interest in a few months.
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In Europe the average person has never heard of Android.
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meh.. interest will be up again in a few months when rumors about iPhone5 starts to popup.
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Apple has just one phone on one network against Android on many phones on all networks...saturation makes a bigger dent. Not to mention the rest of the phone producers out there, MS, RIM, Palm....etc

I feel the iPhone would be even bigger if it were also on Verizon, it's a huge drawback since many customers won't buy a phone no matter how good it is if it's on the wrong network.

One last thing... iPhones greatest asset is it's Exchange support out of the box.
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Same in the US. I have no idea who they're interviewing. My neighbors are all non-technical and NONE of them know what Android is. I heard a couple questions about what that Droid-thing is and that's it.

The iPhone though IS a topic of interest. I've had multiple neighbors buy them in the last few years and multiple who have talked about getting them.
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I wonder how many of those interested in Android are Verizon subscribers? How many of those, as well as those on AT&T, are sick and tired of waiting for an iPhone 4?

Where are all the people on the forum that are 100% sure that Apple doesn't need Verizon?
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I wonder how many of those interested in Android are Verizon subscribers? How many of those, as well as those on AT&T, are sick and tired of waiting for an iPhone 4?

I purchased the iPhone 4 to be sure that I was not going to regret moving to Android Droid X and Verizon.

I owned the original iPhone (paid full price) and then the 3G.

I got tired of waiting for Apple's next fix to the iOS and then the Antenna design flaw for the iPhone 4 (yes I owned one and it's real).

For me I had a Verizon Droid X and iPhone 4 at the same time.

It took me less than a week to return the iPhone 4.

I have choices and I made them. I LOVE my Droid X and now that is has 2.2 the Flash on it is awesome (I can turn it off if I want, it's my choice). Free Voice Turn by Turn Navigation. Beautiful large screen.

I could go on but you get the point.

My Droid X is more stable than any version of the iPhone OS. The closest comparison was 3.13.

I have an original iPhone, 3G iPhone and mophie battery charger (for 3g) for sell. Any interest?
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If you have a rather even split between ATT and Verizon, then it's questionable whether you're getting answers that can be generalized the way they're doing here. If 100 people that use ATT are asked their preference, and it goes 50/50, it's highly unlikely you're going to get that same ratio when asking Verizon customers. One would have to see how the survey was conducted and what the exact question(s) were.
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Good question, because that is a serious drop in iOS interest in a few months.

Because a lot of people (in the US) who were interested in the iPhone 4 have already purchased it and will not be interested in another smart phone until next June. The survey is prospective buyers, not the overall smartphone population.
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If there is a slight chance that questionable survey methodology was used, you can almost guarantee it has been used in order for it to appear on AI. This site excels in the rumors and panic department and falls flat in the credible, vetted story department.

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What is the percentage of people that don't want their Android Smartphone to surreptitiously report their private information to third parties?
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Where are all the people on the forum that are 100% sure that Apple doesn't need Verizon?

I am pretty sure Apple will be able to survive with over 30% of the US smart phone market. I am also pretty sure there is not a big pile of unsold iPhone 4's sitting in Apple and AT&T stores because they are making them so much faster than the limited demand without Verizon is sucking them up.

Oh wait, Apple has had supply shortages? Well gee the fix to that is to add another US carrier, right?
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Same in the US. I have no idea who they're interviewing. My neighbors are all non-technical and NONE of them know what Android is. I heard a couple questions about what that Droid-thing is and that's it.

The iPhone though IS a topic of interest. I've had multiple neighbors buy them in the last few years and multiple who have talked about getting them.

Yes, is more likely that non-technical and non-educated doesn't heard about the Android surge. That's always been the main target for the IPhone. That is what I love about the IPhone is design for non-technical and non-educated users.

The Android is for those that like choices.
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In Europe the average person has never heard of Android.

Really? I have heard this before, but I haven't yet seen any stats that show Android usage outside of the US.
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What is the percentage of people that don't want their Android Smartphone to surreptitiously report their private information to third parties?

You must mean Apple. Not Google.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/41515/

I noticed that patent wasn't included in AI news...
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I am pretty sure Apple will be able to survive with over 30% of the US smart phone market. I am also pretty sure there is not a big pile of unsold iPhone 4's sitting in Apple and AT&T stores because they are making them so much faster than the limited demand without Verizon is sucking them up.

Oh wait, Apple has had supply shortages? Well gee the fix to that is to add another US carrier, right?

Apple's survival is not in question. But we're talking about a market Apple could have dominated.
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You must mean Apple. Not Google.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/41515/

I noticed that patent wasn't included in AI news...

No, he definitely means Android:

http://arstechnica.com/security/news...dvertisers.ars


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The results of a study conducted by researchers from Duke University, Penn State University, and Intel Labs have revealed that a significant number of popular Android applications transmit private user data to advertising networks without explicitly asking or informing the user. The researchers developed a piece of software called TaintDroid that uses dynamic taint analysis to detect and report when applications are sending potentially sensitive information to remote servers.

They used TaintDroid to test 30 popular free Android applications selected at random from the Android market and found that half were sending private information to advertising servers, including the user's location and phone number. In some cases, they found that applications were relaying GPS coordinates to remote advertising network servers as frequently as every 30 seconds, even when not displaying advertisements. These findings raise concern about the extent to which mobile platforms can insulate users from unwanted invasions of privacy.
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my parents just got a price increase on their contract - and will be looking at switching carries to iPhone 4 possibly over the weekend.

Also a customer of mine - after seeing my iPhone - is now considering replacing his AT&T not-smart phone - with an iPhone.

I am sure none of them where interviewed.

that customer as well as a current 3GS owner I talked to recently - asked about the antenna issue - that was about the only thing holding them back.

for the record - I had way more dropped called with my iPhone 2G than I have had with my iPhone 4 on the flip side - based on the dB readings I am pretty close to the edge of a service area - and i do not always have service with the iPhone 4 and have dropped calls as a result of no service - ust not nearly as frequently or consistently as with the original iPhone.
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considering the number of manufacturers and carriers who make or sell Android phones.

One thing Android doesn't do is offer an integrated ecosystem of devices that are so seamlessly interconnected. That is the Apple advantage and will continue to be as long as Apple continues to come out with great products that it markets so well.

As interesting as Android was to me, the lack of this ecosystem was the deciding factor for me. Also, a friend has an Android HTC Desire and it is not a particularly good implementation. If it is representative of other Android phones, there's a long way to go before Android can compete with the iPhone's simplicity, ease of use, and intuitive interface.

Remember, Android is the OS, NOT the interface. You still have to rely on these other companies who don't seem to know a single thing about how to implement a great user interface, something that Apple excels at. I was playing with my friend's phone and it took forever to figure out how to send a photo taken on the phone via text. "Photo is too large" flashes for a brief second on the screen with no option to reduce its resolution. Entering the recipient resulted in some weird buggy glitch that eventually crashed the phone. My friend has on two occasions called someone in her contact list only to find that the phone called someone completely different in her contacts.

Sorry but based on what I've seen so far, I would never consider trading my iPhone for an Android phone.
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No, he definitely means Android:

http://arstechnica.com/security/news...dvertisers.ars

What gets me is that they dont disclose these "apps that send data sententiously to third parties" Sounds like a FUD story to me
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You must mean Apple. Not Google.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/41515/

I noticed that patent wasn't included in AI news...

Ty for the heads up.
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What gets me is that they dont disclose these "apps that send data sententiously to third parties" Sounds like a FUD story to me

Sounds like something you'd like not to be true.

Seriously, you think researchers at Duke & Penn State are publishing FUD, at the risk of trashing their reputations and rapidly ending their academic careers?
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No, he definitely means Android:

http://arstechnica.com/security/news...dvertisers.ars

Reading your recurring and ludicrous tries to spread FUD, it seems that you will never be able to make the difference between the phone and third party apps that an user may hypothetically choose to install. Trying to amalgamate the two is simply dishonest and pitiful: congrats.
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No, he definitely means Android:

http://arstechnica.com/security/news...dvertisers.ars

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Sounds like something you'd like not to be true.

Seriously, you think researchers at Duke & Penn State are publishing FUD, at the risk of trashing their reputations and rapidly ending their academic careers?

Oh so because its Duke & Penn State publishing these "findings" it precludes the fact that its FUD? That makes perfect sense. Why didnt they post what the apps were? They would rather tell Android users that apps they have are unsafe but no provide the list of what is the issues are.

Sounds like a winner to me
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You must mean Apple. Not Google.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/41515/

I noticed that patent wasn't included in AI news...

No he means Google

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369978,00.asp
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Additionally Apple files patents for various reasons some are less nefarious than others. While it's possible filed this to use, It's also possible Apple filed this patent so no one else can.
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I have a Droid and iPhone (for development) Here is how I see it:

1) If you are a techno geek, you will probably prefer Android. The Rooting ( Same as jailbreaking ) comunity is huge and you can find an hack for just about anything you are looking for....

2) #1 is often necessary because of Google's tendency to release things before they are fully baked. These bug are often serious and take forever to work their way into a new release. For example, the New Froyo (2.2) android update broke the ability for the phone to connect to most infrastructure Wifi systems. It also caused a very annoying distortion to any streaming Audio using the AAC+ codex ( like Pandroa on 3G ). Neither of these bug have been fixed and it will be several months before a new major release... Thank god the rooting comunity have provided some work arounds...

3) The average user would prefer the iPhone because it is more stable and requires less thechnical skill to operate.

4) I have been developing an app for both platforms and I really cannot see a hugh advantage of one over the other from a technical point of view. The enviroment for the iPhone is a little easier to use, but the when you hit a wall you are ususally stuck. With android there is usually a way around the wall. The review process is a lot easier on Android (obviously)

5) Syncing video with the Android phones sux.... No other way to put it... You can do anything you like, but it is often a multi step process and you need to understand a lot of subtile video settings...

6) I think Music is a push on the two phones. You can add/delete music and play lists with simple drag and drop on android. You have to use iTunes with the iPhone and quite franky, iTunes is not Apple's best work... ( Just try to point iTunes to a music library on a network drive drive and the "determining gapless playback" stuff will drive you nuts.... )

7) The quality of Video and photos is about even ( on the higher end Androind phones )...

8) Google navigation and Maps on Android is sweet... I know you can do most things on the iPhone, but the integration is better on Android...

9) Android wins voice commands hand down. I am often amazed and how well it works...

10) Until Android broke the infrastructure Wifi I would have given the IT edge to Android, but not now. I would say it is a slight edge for the iPhone right now....

11) Non of this will probably not matter much longer. Verizon is on a mission to kill Androind with locked down phones and putting too much VCrapware on the phones. So far two models are locked down to not allow any of the sweet Google features ( You have to root the phone to use them ) . If anything one thing can stop Andoid, it will be Verizon.....

That is just my opinion based on playing with the devices...
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Right, academic researchers make stuff up all the time, their schools love the publicity, puts these guys on the fast track for tenure. Wow, quite the crew that's shown up for this thread.

You still havent told me why they didnt release their findings? Im waiting.
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Apple also leads in customer satisfaction, with 74 percent of respondents indicating they are "very satisfied" with their iPhone. Android came in second, with 65 percent giving such high approval.

These respondents must be from yet another unsubstantiated survey since the first completely unverifiable survey was prospective smart phone buyers. These respondents, I would assume, already have a smart phone which they are very satisfied with. Edit: For $1,500 you can purchase the details of the survey at changewave and presumably discover how they derive their statistics.

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Good question, because that is a serious drop in iOS interest in a few months.

Thats not what this says.. They are comparing android to iPhone not to iOS. I never could understand this comparison.. They are comparing a phone to an OS that runs on many phones. What exactly is the comparison?
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Same in the US. I have no idea who they're interviewing. My neighbors are all non-technical and NONE of them know what Android is. I heard a couple questions about what that Droid-thing is and that's it.

The iPhone though IS a topic of interest. I've had multiple neighbors buy them in the last few years and multiple who have talked about getting them.

Because it's software. Just like when I go to talk to my non-techie neighbors they have no clue what an "iOS" is. But if I ask these same people what the Droid X and iPhone are, they know instantly.
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Apple's survival is not in question. But we're talking about a market Apple could have dominated.

Kinda like the desktop from a generation ago....
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I wonder how many of those interested in Android are Verizon subscribers? How many of those, as well as those on AT&T, are sick and tired of waiting for an iPhone 4?

It would certainly be interesting to see if they asked any follow-up. Not only "which network are you on?", which would seriously influence the answer to the first question, but also asking why they made their choice...what features mattered to them (ie, a phyical keyboard, etc).

As for people not knowing what Android is...perhaps because there isn't a phone called "Android". How did the survey ask the question? "Will you buy and iPhone or an Android phone?" Many people would probably recognize the names of a lot of Android-based phones and not know they were Android based. A much higher percentage of people know that iPhone is iOS based (the "i" is a big giveaway! )

Anyway, take it with a grain of salt, like all surveys, unless you know that details behind how the survey was conducted. However, it does support the notion that Android is a growing threat to Apple.
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You must mean Apple. Not Google.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/41515/

I noticed that patent wasn't included in AI news...


Really? Systems and Methods for Identifying Unauthorized Users of an Electronic Device was not in AI news? You must have looked under the wrong heading of "traitorware".

AI news is not into such sensationalism. And even though it's EFF who first uttered the term, your choice of "epochtimes" as the source is very interesting, considering that their news pieces were written like Onion articles, but actually were serious about it.
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Surprise surprise

Some Android apps caught covertly sending GPS data to advertisers

http://arstechnica.com/security/news...dvertisers.ars
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Kinda like the desktop from a generation ago....

Nope, not even close... Apple was never in the position to unseat beige PCs sitting in a corporate environment with the Mac. Windows was always good enough for businesses.
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Right, academic researchers make stuff up all the time, their schools love the publicity, puts these guys on the fast track for tenure. Wow, quite the crew that's shown up for this thread.

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You know that whole thing about there being no stupid questions? It's not true.

Oh call me stupid instead. I know who won this exchange
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Google provided an open-source platform that any vendor can pick up and sell it to any number of providers. Apple on the other hand maintains a proprietary iOS for a particular set of hardware than runs on one provider. However, if Apple were able to break into the Verizon market that gap would become quite a bit large IMO -- if Verizon can provide a decent subsidy that is. Which I think is a pretty big reason why iPhone is not on Verizon.
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