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post #81 of 114
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Originally Posted by AIaddict View Post

So, all you anti-USB Steve worshipers, please explain to the 51% who want it,

HOW WILL ADDING USB PORTS HURT THE PRODUCT FOR THOSE WHO DONT WANT THEM?

It will sadly limit our arguments. Geeeezzz.......
post #82 of 114
It is really genius what Apple has done with the new AppleTv, iPad, and AirPlay.

You would be wrong to think that you're tied to the iTunes store with the new AppleTV.

The AppleTV doesn't have a native internet browser, but your iPad, iPod, and iPhone does. Say, for example, that you're using one of your iOS devices as a remote for your newly purchased AppleTv, you now have the ability to navigate to any site of your choice that plays iOS device compatible video content and have it play directly on your AppleTV. I've tested a few sites, and AirPlay is looking rather awesome. Here are just a few:

Hulu
Vimeo
Youtube
CNN
Veetle
ESPN Sports
iDisk
Dailymotion
NetFlix

Anyhow, my iPad just got that much better. Love it!!
post #83 of 114
I find it odd that all this talk of USB never seems to be specific, and I’d think it should be for those that have truly thought this through.

For starters, the iPad does support USB. How else do all iDevices connect to ‘PC’s if not through a USB-A interface at the opposite end of the included cable.

Secondly, i don’t think a single mentioned which USB port interface they want when they grabbed their pitchforks and lit their torches. USB-A? Kind of big for the iPad don’t you think? USB-B? Even taller than USB-B. Mini-USB-A? Mini-USB-B? MIcro-USB-AB? Micro-USB-B? If you pick wrong you’ll need an adapter for your cable, which gets really annoying because these cables look so similar and these weak designs (or perhaps manufacturing) can ruin a connector if you try to force it. I’ve seen it way too many times.

And which of these USB ports offer locking? Which of these USB ports have a pin design as robust as Apple’s 30-pin Dock Connector that could potentially allow for the unused FireWire pins be converted for optical for LightPeak?

What happens when a customer plugs in their 2.5” portal USB HDD and they can’t access it with their iPad and get pissed at Apple because to them if you offer a USB port on a “computer’ it means you can plug in external HDDs to access data? Makes sense to me that should work on any computer and that iPad certainly seems like a computer to me.

Finally, there are how many hundreds of millions of iDevices with the ability to use the same cables and 3rd-party accessories and spanning many, many years. How many other vendors have that sort of ecosystem for their device. Hell, try finding a basic cellphone charger for your car at a truck stop. There have got to be dozens if not hundreds of different versions, yet the iPhone and all other iDevices, save for the Shuffle, use the same connector.
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post #84 of 114
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I find it odd that all this talk of USB never seems to be specific, and Id think it should be for those that have truly thought this through......

What happens when a customer plugs in their 2.5 portal USB HDD and they cant access it with their iPad and get pissed at Apple because to them if you offer a USB port on a computer it means you can plug in external HDDs to access data? Makes sense to me that should work on any computer and that iPad certainly seems like a computer to me.

Damn Soli... you always beat me to it... so once again: +1 - and comments.

I think the very reason why Apple decided not to put in a USB port was due to the confusion... and then the major complaints, both online and at the Apple Stores, when a customer plugged in something that wasn't supported.

As Soli said, a huge number of USB connector types exist now... and let's not forget about many needing a "powered USB port", their own power source, or even a Y-cable (many older and cheap 2.5" drives). That would mean 2 USB ports.

If at all, I would hope that Apple hurries up with the LightPeak integration on all their products and pushes it forward, just like they did with... you guessed it... USB. Apple used it first, then everyone else followed. So now they're (hopefully) killing it for a far better technology and solution... considering Firewire went practically nowhere.

BTW: what is so hard about Dropbox or emailing data?

And re: printing - what about drivers? Or is Apple going to make a universal driver with basic print functionality? Not sure how that's going to play out for those trying to print to Windows network printers.

Also, I can't remember the last time that I was at a client where I needed to print something "personally" that I couldn't email and ask the secretary to do it for me/us. I can't imagine carrying a USB cable and fiddling with the client's printer to do it myself
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post #85 of 114
Well obviously the early adopters were the ones who really wanted the device and thus were more satisfied with it than the ones who just kinda wanted it and waited a while before getting it.
post #86 of 114
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Originally Posted by randyhyde@me.com View Post

Printer, definitely
Game pad, certainly
MIDI controller
Control surfaces
High-end audio devices ( for recording)
Mass-storage devices.

Lest you claim that these devices wouldn't work without appropriate software, I would pointing that no one will write the software until the port exists.

BTW, I'd be perfectly happy with a dongle or cable solution, though having the port built in would encourage hardware and software developers.

Some company already makes a guitar connector for iPhone/iPad and has an app that looks nice. It plus in to the pin slot already on the device. Hopefully someone will make a microphone plug...

That said, I heard one from a developer that Apple demands a pretty penny for the Made For iPad stamp and that even for a blue tooth device to be compatible it requires some kind of special added chip or whatever that allows it to connect to iDevices. It was his explanation as to why a certain device (Kestrel weather meter) won't connect to the iPhone. He emphasized with: where's the plethora of iPhone-compatible devices we were led to believe were coming?

 

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post #87 of 114
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Originally Posted by mitchelljd View Post

honestly, it is neat, but has alot of improvement to make

1- needs USB input and output
2- needs SD card slot
3- needs camera like iphone on both sides.
4- needs full FLASH compatibility, i am time and time again frustrated with the inability for many websites to be functional on it.
5- better system memory size, lots of websites with pics crash under the load of memory.
6- needs more cellular provider option, why just ATT in usa? let others service it.

This is a nifty gizmo, but clearly has tons of room for improvement

More main memory (256MB is not much) and a front facing camera make sense, everything else is
Those two are the only things I wish my iPad had. More RAM (512MB or even 1GB) will allow Safari to keep more pages in cache instead of reloading them often, and a front facing camera for Skype or FaceTime.

Also more storage with iPad 2 wont be bad, 128GB is gonna be nice

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post #88 of 114
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Originally Posted by Takeo View Post

The USB thing is so stupid. What do people expect they'd to be able to plug into it if there was a USB port? Mouse? Printer? Scanner? Gamepad? Even if it had a USB port, 99% of the things you'd try to plug into it wouldn't work or make any sense.

I agree with you if you needed all these extras use a pc or a laptop.Not an i pad
post #89 of 114
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Originally Posted by MJ1970 View Post

I'm curious about this. It lends some credence to the rumors that Apple is considering adding a USB port to iPad 2. But I wonder, with regard to the complaining users, what do they want to do with that USB port?

I don't understand this. What does "the lack of USB ports" mean about a device that is sold with a USB cable? The iPad requires that you plug it into a computer USB port to use it and to re-charge its batteries.
post #90 of 114
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Originally Posted by randyhyde@me.com View Post

Printer, definitely
Game pad, certainly
MIDI controller
Control surfaces
High-end audio devices ( for recording)
Mass-storage devices.

Lest you claim that these devices wouldn't work without appropriate software, I would pointing that no one will write the software until the port exists.

BTW, I'd be perfectly happy with a dongle or cable solution, though having the port built in would encourage hardware and software developers.

This wins my Darwin award for 2010. "game pad" - The device IS a game pad.
Control Surfaces - This IS a control surface
Midi Controller - What on earth for? This is so niche as to be pointless, if anyone was bothered they could write an app and utilise the camera connection kit.
High-End audio devices (for recording) - recording what, with 128 megs of ram and at most 64 gig hard drive. besides, the camera connection kit covers that niche market.
Mass Storage Devices. You mean like the computer that you can sync the device to? This is a portable device with a finite hard drive, you're not seriously suggesting leaving it attached to some external hard drive for use?!

There is the cable/dongle solution you're after, it's called the camera connection kit and it was announced on the day the iPad was launched.

I'm assuming you've never used an iPad, or have and somehow missed the point.

And as wireless printing is just around the corner, point one is now moot.
post #91 of 114
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Originally Posted by mitchelljd View Post

honestly, it is neat, but has alot of improvement to make

1- needs USB input and output
2- needs SD card slot
3- needs camera like iphone on both sides.
4- needs full FLASH compatibility, i am time and time again frustrated with the inability for many websites to be functional on it.
5- better system memory size, lots of websites with pics crash under the load of memory.
6- needs more cellular provider option, why just ATT in usa? let others service it.

This is a nifty gizmo, but clearly has tons of room for improvement

Your points one and two are your personal desires, not "needs" - buy the camera connection kit. Sorted.

You want to use the iPad as a camera?! (point 3) don't be ridiculous. This is in no way ergonomically designed to act as a camera, you'd look ridiculous taking pictures with this thing. I still don't get the front facing camera request, I don't want to video chat with someone as they look up my nose/at the ceiling.

Your point 4 - flash is not compatible with mobile devices. Flash 10.1 sort of runs on my android, but it's flakey at best, completely fails to render at worst and all flash sites are unusable as there is no differentiation between a click and a mouse over. Until flash works on mobile devices, how can there be a need to support it? Apart from flash adverts what exactly are you missing? If your favourite video site doesn't deliver it's video professionally (with browser detection and appropriate delivery) then stop visiting it - they'll soon get the message when their site stats plummet. I used to hear these same arguments for developing sites only for internet explorer 5 - it's what everyone does. That held back web development for years - now flash is doing the same. It was never intended for video delivery, and does a pretty awful job of doing so when there have always been (normally better) options available.

5 - I've yet to have a site or pic(?!) crash on me. If a web site can't render with 100 +megs of ram, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with the site.

6 - Can't help you there, there are a LOT of choices over here in Europe, but as this device is rarely going to be out of a wi-fi zone (home use, hotels etc) the 3G option is a rarely used option for many.
post #92 of 114
I'm a high school art and photo teacher and I bought the iPad the before the start of school year. I had also bought a 15 inch MBP and 17 inch iMac retiring an old G4 tower. I use the iPad every day showing examples of artwork, videos on art, referring to articles and the like. With 3G I can log into the web based grading and attendance site Infinite Campus that our school uses as we do not have WiFi. Since Infinite Campus requires Java for some functions I have had to rely on Cloud Browse to enter grades.

My only complaint is that the iPad should have been eligible for Apple's educator discount. The iPad is absolutely perfect for use in school while the brand new MBP stays home gathering dust. If ever a device qualified for such a discount it would be for the iPad. I've demonstrated how effective the iPad is to countless teachers, students and some administrators. In a nearby school district 500 iPads were purchased for student and teacher use. Apple's presence in schools need be iPads and iMacs while the hundreds of iPods and iPhones are what need be left home as they continue to be the most perfect distraction to learning I encounter everyday - in class!
post #93 of 114
At launch the number of apps was far lower than today's.

I'd wager that when iOS4.x hits the iPad, the satisfaction thingie goes up considerably.
post #94 of 114
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Originally Posted by CIM View Post

Some people want to stick to USB even though there are better solutions available. AirPrint and AirPlay, for example, will make USB unnecessary on the iPad.

This is just plain ignorant, USB has nothing to do with AirPrint nor AirPlay nor will either of them replace USB.

It just amazes me that people can't grasp that USB supports many things than printers and memory sticks. The world is large and varied as is USB.
post #95 of 114
and use my ipad multiple times every day.. quite happy with it...what I'd like to see:

- Printing (coming)
- ARD App for screen control of computers
- Search on a web page
- .ics support for Calendar app

I don't care about Flash or USB support - many sites have already converted to some form of alternative-to-Flash (except porn I suppose), or have dedicated apps... I never miss connecting something via USB either...
post #96 of 114
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I cant believe this still isnt resolved. If you dont recall, that is the primary reason I returned it.

One of the reasons I've resisted buying an iPad is directly related to the amount of RAM installed. Basically I can't ever seee the platform running Safari well. Not in the way I expect to use the machine. It is ptetty clear that by the time the OS and background apps load there is little RAM available for a app like Safari.
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And here is a very detail article on the odd page limit cache size for the iPad, and only the iPad which apparently is the cause for all these issues.
http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2010/06/...-cache-limits/

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Or use a 3rd-party browser which is what Ill be doing.

It will be interesting to see what 4.2 brings to iPad with respect to usability. I just don't expect massive improvements because I believe hardware is the issue.
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For example: There's a local sub shop that still, over forty years after it opened, doesn't accept credit cards (cash only). Say it wants to start taking plastic at some point. I've been thinking of how to implement that with iPads as replacement cash registers. (The iPads would allow the shop to write a custom, private app to show cashiers any online orders coming in, if they wish to implement such a system.)

As far as I know, you'd need the following equipment at each register (there are two):

1. iPad
2. Dock with built-in keyboard
3. Receipt printer
4. Manual money tray
5. Countertop credit card device with user-visible capacitive display, to show purchases made and a place for signatures
6. NFC-based iPhone payment device (optional; may be built into credit card device)

AirPrint could connect the receipt printer, but not the credit card machine. That would require a USB port.

(No, I don't work for the shop.)

The iPad could be a wonderful product for many dedicated uses, if it simply offered up USB ports. The built in high quality touch screen is a huge advantage, with iOS offering significant advantages.

Personally I've contemplated a number of ideas from a screen for a microscope to an interface for an interferrometer. Another place where it would be handy is in industry with a USB to RS232 bridge. Here a terminal emulator would allow access to many industrial devices, with iPad being perfect for that on the go environment. Then we have todays USB equiped instruments for data logging, power measurement and other activities where intermittant connections would be very useful. Another idea is a Touch based telescope, where the video and the control happens over USB.
post #98 of 114
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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

Is this not a RAM issue at least in part?
One of the reasons I've resisted buying an iPad is directly related to the amount of RAM installed. Basically I can't ever seee the platform running Safari well. Not in the way I expect to use the machine. It is ptetty clear that by the time the OS and background apps load there is little RAM available for a app like Safari. .

Perhaps in part, as the display has a lot more pixels than the 3GS (both have 256MB RAM) thereby needing more RAM for the GPU. However, this wasnt an issue with the original iPhone with 128MB RAM and the 25.6KB is only for HTML, not for CSS or JS caching, which is odd. Also, this is not an issue with other mobile browsers on the iPad that use the Webkit framework.

I would have thought this a bug, but since its not resolved in 4.2b2 I do have to consider there are other reasons like HW, though I honestly cant figure out why.
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post #99 of 114
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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

What amazes me is that everyone is talking about cloud computing and some people still want external HDD for portable devices. I have two external HDD and several flash drives that I haven't used for years now. I have work files stored in my MobileMe iDisk and DB just incase. I can access them from everywhere. But I guess some people just like moving backward.

The problem with that scenario, is that you have to connected online, always. Your information is only as accessible as your internet connection. If you never leave a city or well-connected area, that's not a problem, but if you have to, then it's useless.

With a USB device, you just plug it in, and as long as you have some sort of power source, you can transfer files, and you don't have to deal with the extra step of logging into/or paying for an additional service.

I'd rather see a built-in SD slot, that's would cover 99% of any potential needs, and no a $29 add-on dongle just doesn't cut it. A built-in USB port would be a giant catch all though.
post #100 of 114
The 30 pin connector is basically all the ports of a standard computer put into a single connector, including USB (and audio, and video, etc). If you really need it, stick one of these on the end: http://www.sendstation.com/us/produc...t-miniusb.html
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Your information is only as accessible as your internet connection. If you never leave a city or well-connected area, that's not a problem, but if you have to, then it's useless.

With a USB device, you just plug it in, and as long as you have some sort of power source, you can transfer files, and you don't have to deal with the extra step of logging into/or paying for an additional service.

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What amazes me is that... ...some people still want external HDD for portable devices.

It amazes me too. I wonder if people will clamour for their smartphone or cellphone to connect to USB hard drives and cup warmers. After all, they've got USB ports too.


With the drives your information is only as accessible as what the capacity of the drive allows you to bring with you. The cloud even has the advantage of allowing remote access to info on your computer.

Of course the external storage works without the internet connection; what's the point of an iPad being portable when you're using data so large it can only fit onto a portable hard drive? Otherwise even the base 16GB iPad has the capacity of all but the largest reasonably priced flash memory cards for the typical consumer.

As for plugging a flash drive into an iPad for transferring data from a computer, why not simply plug the iPad directly into the computer using its data cable? All it needs is a disk mode similar to those available to the iPods.

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I'd rather see a built-in SD slot, that's would cover 99% of any potential needs, and no a $29 add-on dongle just doesn't cut it

that's to say 99% of ability but these things that posters have posted earlier as why iPad must have USB ports (file transfer, MIDI controller, Point of Sale, control surface[?!])
probably equate to 1% of use.

iPad is good because it is a focussed product, what it does, it does well.
When you start adding USB ports for the one percent who may use it for MIDI control, or a rear facing camera for the 1% who'll use a $429 11 inch square device for taking worse pictures than a $150 compact camera, you start needing to add a larger battery or higher costs, size or weight which will discourage the 90% you're actually trying to sell to.
post #102 of 114
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One of the reasons I've resisted buying an iPad is directly related to the amount of RAM installed. Basically I can't ever seee the platform running Safari well. Not in the way I expect to use the machine. It is ptetty clear that by the time the OS and background apps load there is little RAM available for a app like Safari.


It will be interesting to see what 4.2 brings to iPad with respect to usability. I just don't expect massive improvements because I believe hardware is the issue.

You've held off because of assumption rather than trying? The iPad runs Safari beautifully - no - you can't have eight tabs open, but that's sort of irrelevant. THis isn't a desktop. Games, books, music, movies and the web all browse beautifully - 128 megs of ram is plenty - it's more than most desktops had a few years ago. We've become RAM hungry, and developers have become lazy, if a web page can't render with 100 megs of RAM, there's something very, very wrong with it's code.

The iPad is very smooth to operate, renders everything I've tried so far beautifully, and I must say that screen interaction and animation are smoother than on my i7 imac with 8 gigs of RAM.
post #103 of 114
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The problem with that scenario, is that you have to connected online, always. Your information is only as accessible as your internet connection. If you never leave a city or well-connected area, that's not a problem, but if you have to, then it's useless.

With a USB device, you just plug it in, and as long as you have some sort of power source, you can transfer files, and you don't have to deal with the extra step of logging into/or paying for an additional service.

I'd rather see a built-in SD slot, that's would cover 99% of any potential needs, and no a $29 add-on dongle just doesn't cut it. A built-in USB port would be a giant catch all though.

Actually no.

This is a standard misconception about cloud computing. All of your data can be stored remotely, but you can also keep anything you want locally. It's just that you can access from anywhere with a net connection, not that you HAVE to in order to view your content. Storage isn't getting larger and cheaper in order that it's going to be scrapped. This is about convenience and backup, not replacement.

Not sure why people make the assumption that everything would ONLY be online at all times, that's just a bit silly and no one is suggesting it.

An SD card slot would cover 99% of potential needs? Most people on here seem to want to connect peripherals, that's not going to be covered by an SD card slot. The camera connection kit DOES cover this, for the very few people who buy it - look at the sales figures from the last quarterly for the tiny percentage of people who saw this as a must have. I bought it, it sits in my camera bag, it works beautifully.
post #104 of 114
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Originally Posted by Fast Fred 1 View Post

storage ?

You mean like the 64gigabytes on board, or the computer you attach it to sync and transfer files? That sort of storage?

What is with people these days - cast your mind back six or seven years - having a 64 GIGABYTE hard drive was unimaginable, and now this is a standard thing with people wanting more. The apps on the iPad are tiny, music files are at most a couple of meg each - and you still have room to carry round a couple of movies. What more storage do you want?
post #105 of 114
The data used in this article is complete and utter bull****.

No wonder no one can reconcile the USB question. It's a completely made up meme and statistic.
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Originally Posted by knwbuddy View Post

By this logic, "you really weren't meant" to sync the iPad, because you "can't do it wireless".

I don't think you are being clear in your analysis, but instead are mistakenly condemning one of the iPad's big problems - the necessity of being tied down to a big chunk of metal and plastic, with a wire, in order to use it fully.

Wireless syncing is something that has been desired by many posters here at AI. Your point, even though you probably didn't realize it, bolsters their argument.

Ok there bro, so how fast is your wifi? How about your 3G?

Yea enjoy that wireless syncing. I'm sure it will work out really well for you
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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

This is just plain ignorant, USB has nothing to do with AirPrint nor AirPlay nor will either of them replace USB.

It just amazes me that people can't grasp that USB supports many things than printers and memory sticks. The world is large and varied as is USB.

I wasnt arguing that USB is going extinct, but that AirPrint and AirPlay make USB unnecessary on an iPad. Itll make HDMI unnecessary too.
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Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post

He emphasized with: where's the plethora of iPhone-compatible devices we were led to believe were coming?

Add-on hardware may require multi-million dollar investments for manufacturing and in the case of medical equipment may also have to go through rigorous testing and approval procedures. These things may take a number of years for testing, manufacturing, approval and the support of the communties they serve. It'll come, but not overnight. It's not the same as shipping a joystick add-on.

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Originally Posted by ThePixelDoc View Post

Damn Soli... you always beat me to it... so once again: +1 - and comments.

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Other cellphones use an open standard, instead of Apple's proprietary 30 pin connector.

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The cellular phone carrier group, Open Mobile Terminal Platform (OMTP), have recently endorsed Micro-USB as the standard connector for data and power on mobile devices.[23] These include various types of battery chargers, allowing Micro-USB to be the single external cable link needed by some devices. As of January 30, 2009 Micro-USB has been accepted by almost all cell phone manufacturers as the standard charging port (including Apple, HTC, Motorola, Nokia, LG, Hewlett-Packard, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, Research In Motion) in the EU and most of the world. Worldwide conversion to the new cellphone charging standard is expected to be completed between 2010 to 2012.

In addition, on 22 October 2009 the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) announced that it had embraced micro-USB as the Universal Charger Solution its "energy-efficient one-charger-fits-all new mobile phone solution", and added: "Based on the Micro-USB interface, UCS chargers will also include a 4-star or higher efficiency ratingup to three times more energy-efficient than an unrated charger."[24]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univers...cro_connectors

Thats great that other manufactures are finally working on standardizing, but note that your dates start in 2009 (last year!) and even state that they standardization wont be completed until 2012. Why so long when Apple started using the 30-pin connector 8(?) years ago. Every iDevice, save for the Shuffle has had the same connector, but you suggest that it would have better if Apple had not simply used different ones all those years and then drop their 30-pin connector that allows me to interchange cables between iDevices, interchange iDevice accessories, thus reducing costs and making things more convenient to jump on a recent bandwagon that isnt even completed? Come on!

On top of that it ignores the fact that there are dozens upon dozens of different chargers for all the cellphones in use today, but you are saying at some future date after all this is completed AND after all these consumers decide to stop using their current or next phone and decide to buy another one will they finally have an interchangeable charger. Thats great, but that doesnt discount my comment, in fact your dates prove my point and this longstanding issue with cellphone vendors.
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post #110 of 114
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Originally Posted by pmz View Post

Ok there bro, so how fast is your wifi? How about your 3G?

Yea enjoy that wireless syncing. I'm sure it will work out really well for you

The notion that wireless syncing would be so horrible really doesn't fly, especially if you actually test your notions. For example, I timed an iPhone backup and compared it to the size of the backup file, the actual data rate is 20 Mbps, about what WiFi G can do.
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Sorry, the notion that wireless syncing would be so horrible really doesn't fly. For example, I timed an iPhone backup and compared it to the size of the backup file, the actual data rate is 20 Mbps, about what WiFi G can do.

The problem I see with WiFi backups is the same as I see with the complaints about USB in this thread. People arent thinking it through when they are making their claims of how easy and great it would be. There are pros and cons to everything, and any company has to think of these and only make the change when the aggregate of the pros outweigh the aggregate of the cons.

My iDevices have been doing wireless sync for years now with certain features, like Notes, Bookmarks, Contacts, Calendars, etc. Of course, you need a MobileMe or Exchange access to make this work, but the point is does happen for smaller amounts of data.

20MB isnt very big. I think even Apple moved the App Store limit over 3G from 10MB to 20MB last year. If were talking about the first sync should you be able to put in your iTunes credentials into the phone on your LAN and have up to 64GB (as of today) sync? We can easily put a limitation that you cant do it for the first sync.

What if you only have an 802.11b network? What if that network is 802.11n but saturated by other data that is actually more important? What if its an update but you have a new 1.5GB TomTom app update, a whol e bunch of videos you bought on your device or in iTunes on your PC that need to be synced one way or the other? So now we have questions that typically lead to limitations with the service. If its too slow thereby taking too much time then if wont sync. If its too much data then it wont sync. What are these limitations? Where do you put the demarkation point? Does Apple have the right to shape the user experience for their products the way they see fit so some techtarded individual doesnt understand why its taking so long to sync or confused and upset that he wiped his device and he lost all his data because it wasnt synced.

Most people seem to think that when you double-click the Home button that all the apps listed in Fast App Switcher are apps that are running in the background. Ive come across more than a few people that are deleting them all constantly thinking it will make their phone faster and save battery life.

Im sure wireless sync is coming, but not in the poorly conceived way that has plagued other devices trying to get a one up on Apples spec sheet. I think it will be a controlled and uniform maneuver that will preserver the UX for the average user.
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morning, noon and night. portable and accessible make it a no-brainer especially for web access.

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I use my iPad everyday.
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The NPD study sounded interesting, but without seeing the data, the questions asked, and some demographic and other information, it's impossible to draw substantive conclusions from the survey -- that is, evaluate the quality and conclusions which NPD published.

So, I did what anyone who was interested in finding out more details would do, I contacted NPD to get the data, which their site offered. My request was denied "due to ... the proprietary nature of the research we conduct for our clients, we are unable to respond to your request for information."

In any case, there are so many possible explanations for the information presented that it's quite worthless to comment on this survey substantively.

NPD, of course, is just a marketing company, who is paid to push the agenda to whatever company hired them, part of whose task is to issue press releases which look like legitimate research.
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I'm curious about this. It lends some credence to the rumors that Apple is considering adding a USB port to iPad 2. But I wonder, with regard to the complaining users, what do they want to do with that USB port?

I can attest to this survey. My iPad is easily the least used electronic device in my house. I bought it 3 months ago and after the first few days, I doubt that it's been used even a dozen times. In fact, if it weren't for a game my kid plays on it, it would be used even less. By comparison, my Nook is used practically daily and my Vibrant daily.

Why do I need a USB port? The main reason I bought it was because so I wouldn't carry my laptop with me while traveling just to download photos from my camera. It pisses me off that I had to shell out an extra $30 for an external adapter. It pisses me off that the adapter doesn't work on the iPod Touch. It pisses me off that I can't connect a USB flash drive and just transfer files to the iPad. The photos get transferred from my camera on to the iPad and it serves that purpose beautifully. But then I can't reorganize my photos on the iPad. I have to do that on iTunes, which I simply abhor. The iPad's a seriously limiting device. As soon as a decent Android tablet is released, I'll be replacing my iPad.
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