Originally Posted by extremeskater
I use to be really big about making sure I always had a hard copy on DVD even when I had a backup to and external drive. I would always buy on DVD instead of downloading but I have slowly moved away from both.
I would say optical drives are dying faster in the Apple world then they are elsewhere.
For the most part all gaming is still done off DVD, I think most Windows users still buy content rather then downloading it. Things like the PSP GO adn Wii online game buying never took off well.
So I would say content download is still not there yet other places but its moving forward faster with Apple because SJ has been wanting to move in that direction for several years. I remember him talking about that when he intro the first Alu iMac.
But I agree we are moving away from optical drives. It will be interesting to see when things like the Xbox and PS start to move to download only content.
However Blackintoch does have a good point with this comment and I do agree about eldery people not being ready for this.
"Go ahead and buy a HD camcorder, make a movie with iLife and now what are you supposed to do with it? Upload it to Mobile Me and share it with family that might not have broadband?
Hey Grandpa, download this movie this weekend while your out of town and it might be finished by Monday morning. This is assuming Grandpa HAS a computer in the first place.
DVD's are perfect for sharing with non tech people, the kind that don't visit this forum. Not everyone thinks like the community here, thank goodness."
If you look at any computer stores DVD section its been dwindling year after year. The internet is just too pervasive, portable HDDs, flash drives, and even email/filesharing (for smaller files) is fast and efficient.
Take the optical drive in the 13 MB/MBP. Its one of the smallest among fullsized notebooks yet it takes up ¼ of the internal chassis space. On top of that its slower to read/write than even a slow HDD and hella* slower than any NAND-based tech, it has moving parts which make it more prone to breaking, and its using up 5 of that port-side real estate.
I dont think optical disc drives (ODDs) will be going away as swiftly as Apple did away with the floppy drive, but there is less and less reason to keep providing them in notebooks where space is so important. Apple cant reduce the size of their machines until they can get rid of the ODD. The question isnt if, but when.
Blackintoshs points (as copied and pasted from dozens of other posters) clearly shows a fatalist, Chicken Little delusion and odd hatred of Apple while thinking what Apple does has to affect his usage patterns. Him and those like him ignore 3rd-party apps, 3rd-party drives, etc.; all the things normal people easily figure out and work around.
Also note that Apple will not support Blu-ray playback so its odd that people keep expecting Blu-ray drives to show up in Macs or that iDVD and DVD Pro to be updated when theyve languished for so long and not even promoted with iLife 09. iDVD got a small mention that its included, but thats it! Apples own notebooks havent received a speed boost in their notebook ODDs for years now. Apple is done with forwarding the slow, power hungry, large and frequently unused ODDs. There is nothing to argue about, the writing is on the wall.
Again, this doesnt mean DVDs cant be used simply because Blackintosh says its all or nothing based on what Apple does as a company. Once Apple flips their internal switch others will follow but it will take time and there will always be options. Sony only stopped making floppy drives/discs this year and you can still find VHS tapes for sale. Actually, what you said about Grandpas and DVDs could have been said about Grandpas and VHS when DVD was gaining traction. If they can learn VHS, then learn DVD, then I think people can learn to stream from a media extender.
And most of these grandpas have kids and grandkids. I use Dropbox for my family. I drop in a video I formatted using Handbrake or QuickTime, which is then added to iTunes automatically with then shows up on their HDTV via AppleTV. To my family its magic, to me its less than 60 seconds of actual effort on my part.
* South Park starts back up this week.