Originally Posted by solipsism
Im thinking in terms of economics. It has nothing to do with Apple. Apple is not the only one who has ever released a product in January.
Besides that its Apples phone and Apple has to work within the confines of the non-infinite resources to source parts and produce products. I dont think a Verizon iPhone is likely to launch in January, but I think its likely to announced.
Your comment and the one i responded to was inferring that no consumer device announced and launched in January and "January is NOT a good month to launch a device. Heck, even apple knows this.
I proved how utterly wrong your statement was and corrected your erroneous and un-researched conclusion. You are the one who is sidestepping saying that you meant only the iPhone on Verizon and not consumer electronics in general, despite nothing in your comments state that no cellphone should be launched in January or February, but other products can and often are launched in the later two winter months.
Yes, because releasing a product ON CONTRACT less than a month after the biggest retail season makes total sense. Again.. it's not an issue IF they'll make money. That's a given. The question is how much money will they make. They won't make NEARLY as much than if they released 2 months earlier, or delayed the launch until late spring.
On top of that, Verizon WILL NOT LET Apple announce a device like that any further than a few weeks out, Period. The amount of returns, angry calls, and lost upgrades from an early announcement will destroy their numbers. Even if every person who didn't upgrade in that time got an Iphone (highly unlikely) it still won't be enough.
You've obviously never worked in or dealt with retail sales before, so I'll give you a pass on this, but the worst thing a company can do is announce a hotly anticipated item and then sit on it for MONTHS when their lifeblood is contracts. This isn't some consumer electronic, this is a device given on contract. ALL Verizon A-List launches are announced no more than a month before launch (with the possible exception of the Storm, and that was a software issue)
Um, every smartphone was their competition. What you probably meant to say, thought dont even realize it is that the iPhone came out so far ahead of the competition than it is now. This further destroys your already weak position as it would make even more people return their AT&T phones (if even that was a big issue for AT&T), when now they have competition which by definition means that Verizons other options can compete against the iPhone better than they could 4 years ago come january.
Wrong. The iphone at launch was NOT competing with winmo or BBerry. It was positioned from the start as a consumer electronics device, whereas those other options were for business. The concept of a consumer smartphone didn't really exist UNTIL the iphone launch. It also had none of the things that made it attractive to businesses at launch. So no, it didn't have competition.
Now, it has Android, WebOS, and Winmo7 to compete with. On top of that at the very least Android is far more profitable than iphone will be (unless you think apple will let them Bing the phone) and witheld upgrades to android for the iphone mean LESS profit. Announcing a device and then delaying it would kill Verizon's sales.
Not only would some android users (and blackberry users) not upgrade, but a lot of feature phone users would hold off upgrading as well. And then when the Iphone launches and it's NOT bogo and it STILL requires data, a lot of those people waiting won't end up upgrading to it in the first place.
If/When Verizon get's the iphone it will be announced within a month of launch, and they're not going to do a winter launch for a product that has such an interest. The only exception to this MIGHT be if it was a first wave LTE device, but all rumors out right now that you are quoting point to this not being the case.
Okay, when you debate with fools there is a point that you become the bigger fool for letting it continue. Im out. Enjoy your ignorant bliss.
You're right. It's pointless to argue with someone who counters an argument that Verizon won't launch a device in the winter by pointing out that our winter is summer in Australia.