Originally Posted by solipsism
I’m talking about the AppleTV, I’m talking about iDevices like the iPhone, Touch and iPad being in the hands of people who are in the living room. What Apple hasn’t won is the TV or entertainment center in the living room.
Originally Posted by appl
Last night was typical around here.
TV on, kids looking at their cellphones, etc.
One kid had a brand new Droid X. WOW! That thing is GREAT! He was showing off videos on his huge screen.
Another had some sort of cheap keyboard phone. My kid used his netbook.
I found a cool video, plugged my laptop into the HDMI, and we watched on the 46 inch panel in 5.1 sound. My iPhone stayed in my pocket.
Last night wasn't typical because of the baseball playoffs-- Giants vs Braves.
Also, as an iOS developer I have access to the iOS 4.2 Beta which brings capability to iDevices that will be generally available in November.
Our household consists of me, my daughter and her 3 kids: Girl age 14; Boys age 12 and 10.
No computers or TV of any kind in the living room-- but an AirPort Express attached to a B&O stereo with McIntosh speakers.In the Family room we have an entertainment center (Built-in cabinets):
-- Sony Bravia 46" HDTV
-- New AppleTV
-- Mac Mini (BT KB, BT Mouse, EyeTV)
-- DVD / VCR Combo
-- Connector for VideoCam
-- Connector for Computer
-- ATT U-Verse (Internet and Cable TV)
-- iPhone/iPod Universal Dock
-- AirPort ExtremeThe Family room computer desk:
-- iMac 24, BT KB, BT Mouse
-- Epson Scanner
-- USB Charging/Synching centerThe Den / Office:
-- iMac 24 with external Apple Cinema Display, BT KB, BT Mouse, BT Touch Pad, BT SD Card reader
-- 20 Terabytes of external FireWire HDD storage (iOS Development, Final Cut, iMovie, Time Machine Backups, etc).
-- Midi adapter and Piano Keyboard.
-- Headless Mini media center with 4 Terabyte external HDD storage (iTunes and iPhoto libraries and Backups)
We have 6 iPhones -- 2 with SIMs and the others are used as iPod Touches by the kids
We Have 2 iPads -- Primarily Me and my daughter, but usually appropriated by the kids
A typical evening (after homework, soccer practice and dinner)
-- Me on the couch watching the Big HDTV and surfing on my iPad
-- My Daughter on the other couch, watching the Big HDTV, reading a book (physical or on her iPad).
-- 1 or 2 kids on the family computer playing games on the web
-- 1 to 3 kids on their iPod/iPhones playing games (ear buds)
As the evening evolves, the players and devices will change hands -- the kids usually end up with the iPads and iPod/iPhones (sometimes sharing) playing multiplayer or multi turn games, watching a streamed video from NetFlix or StreamToMe from the media center Mini. Sometimes they read books or surf the web.
Often, for a TV show, or Movie, we break out the popcorn and everyone watches the Big HDTV (TV or Streamed from the media library via AppleTV)
Sometimes the kids use the HDTV Wii setup to play favorite games while the adults are on the computers or their iPads.
Very seldom do we use the Mini attached to the HDTV.
In the past, I have connected a laptop to the HDTV (I have a port reserved) -- but have not done so in months (don't use the laptop anymore).
We had the original AppleTV, so we have been streaming music, video, and photos throughout the house for several years... nothing new, except the new AppleTV is much better.
I use AirPlay, now, to stream audio to the B&O. the AppleTV. etc.
When Video is supported for AirPlay, I suspect I will use it often to painlessly (no wires, no hookup) stream content from iDevices to the HDTV.
We can surf the web on the Mini attached to the HDTV -- but it is a terrible experience -- watching someone else type (badly).
What has changed the way we use our family room (Living Room equivalent) is the iPads, and to a lesser extent the iPod/iPhones.
The iPad can be a personal (for 1 or 2) TV, Movie Player, Game player, web surfer. The iPad is just the right size and form factor for portability, usability and convenience.
With the iPad, you can stop on a dime, change direction, then resume where you left off. For example, my granddaughter was watching a NetFlix movie-- double tap home and she brought up a recipe for dinner, walked into the kitchen to show her mom (could have printed it) then walked back to the living room to continue her movie.
Whew! Long story, longer.
What I am trying to illustrate is that I agree with Sol -- the "living room" is more of a concept than a single place. It is the source of our content whether external (TV, DVD, Streamed) or internal (Home Movies, Photos, Streamed).
Some times it is everybody in the same room watching/listening/playing the same thing on the HDTV (Video, Music, Games).
Sometimes it is as above, but one or more are multitasking on their iPad or iPod/iPhone.
Sometimes it is everyone doing their own thing while spread all over the house and yard.
So, in this broader concept of a "virtual living room", I agree with Sol that iDevices have changed the meaning (and location) -- there is no "living room"... it is nowhere... it is everywhere *.
... and Apple has most of the pieces of the puzzle in place.
* I have used an iPad to access movies streamed from my home media center over 3G, while sitting in the middle of a park.