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Apple on Tuesday released the third beta of iOS 4.2 to developers alongside the second beta of iTunes 10.1, making subtle changes to the distributions of the former for both the iPhone and the iPad.

iOS 4.2 build releases seem to be following a two week cycle, as the first iOS 4.2 beta was released four weeks ago, with the second beta coming two weeks after.

People familiar with the latest iOS beta said it is known as build 8C5115c.

The beta contains several significant changes, including an updated version of the modem firmware. Noticeably missing from the beta were AirPlay features from previous builds. The AirPlay button has disappeared from the Photos, Videos, and YouTube apps on the distribution for the iPad.

Developers have noticed a bug with the AirPrint functionality. When printing from an iPhone, the image sometimes prints as just the size of the iPhone's screen, not the original image size.

The beta also packs a number of smaller additions. According to fscklog, the new beta adds "a larger number" of tones (Google Translation) for receiving text messages on the iPhone 4. The 17 new SMS ringtones include tones such as "Calypso," "Choo Choo," "Sherwood Forest," and "Tiptoes."

In a minor change to the iPad, the Connect to iTunes recovery screen now uses the controversial new iTunes 10 icon.

The iTunes 10.1 beta released alongside the iOS 4.2 beta continues to support printing.

For more on iOS 4.2, see AppleInsider's first looks:

First look: Apple's iOS 4.2 for iPad and iPhone
First look: AirPrint wireless printing with Apple's iOS 4.2

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I don;t think it removed the functionality, Just hid it since there is no video AirPlay enabled devices on the network.
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.. According to fscklog, the new beta adds "a larger number" of tones (Google Translation) for receiving text messages on the iPhone 4.

While additions are welcome, custom SMS tones are really all that's needed.
Even better would be SMS tones per contact, with the option of selecting a custom tone.

A number of co-workers rely on server originated SMS messages, they've jailbroken their phones solely to customize SMS tones .
post #4 of 38
I agree! There is no reason people shouldn't be allowed to add custom tones. I'm sure the 17 new tones are very high quality but I just want a way to add my own...
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LOL at "the controversial new iTunes 10 icon"!
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While additions are welcome, custom SMS tones are really all that's needed.
Even better would be SMS tones per contact, with the option of selecting a custom tone.

A number of co-workers rely on server originated SMS messages, they've jailbroken their phones solely to customize SMS tones .

You can assign text tones to individual contacts. That was added in a previous beta. However, with just the few text tones previously available, only a handful of contacts would have a unique SMS tone. I the addition of 17 new alerts should be more than plentiful.

Even if not assigning to particular contact, at least you can change from what people around you have. Couple nights ago, I counted 9 out of 11 people sitting at the bar with iPhones, including the manager and bartender, that's 11. And probably half, including me were on the glass chime causing a constant distraction.
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LOL at "the controversial new iTunes 10 icon"!

I know! That's comedy. Who really values the opinions of anyone bent out of shape about a changed icon? The old one was fine. The new one is fine.
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the addition of 17 new alerts should be more than plentiful.

I find all the new ones are just too long to use for SMS alerts though.
post #9 of 38
More SMS tones is a step in the right direction, however Apple should look and see how notification sounds are handled on the Blackberry. Coming from a Blackberry the iPhone is desperately lacking in this area.

I would like to:
- have a separate incoming mail tone for each email account. Right now I can't tell when the new mail chimes if it was one of the 2 accounts on my iPhone or on my computer... they are all the same!
- more choice for vibration other than on or off, such as duration. I often find the vibration too quick.
- sound profiles. Currently all you've got is the switch on the side of the phone.
- per app notification sounds... I suppose this is more on the app developer side, but too many apps throw up a notification alert all using the same sound. With the phone in my pocket, I can't tell which app is vying for my attention. Some apps use their own sounds though, like MSN.
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I find all the new ones are just too long to use for SMS alerts though.

Are they? Damn! I haven't installed new beta yet on iPhone, (did for iPad). I haven't been a much of proponent for user created custom tones, thinking it would be hard to keep them short enough. I had assumed Apple would have though. I can't stand long alert tones. I hope if that's the case, Apple will work on them some more.
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Are they? Damn! I haven't installed new beta yet on iPhone, (did for iPad). I haven't been a much of proponent for user created custom tones, thinking it would be hard to keep them short enough. I had assumed Apple would have though. I can't stand long alert tones. I hope if that's the case, Apple will work on them some more.

You can go hear them without installing here: http://gizmodo.com/5662382/the-new-iphone-sms-ringtones
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Apple on Tuesday released the third beta of iOS 4.2 to developers alongside the second beta of iTunes 10.1


And no new Mac OS X 10.6.5 beta? The last public beta was version 10H548 issued almost 2 weeks ago.

Apple should hire new software programmers and train them over the next 2 years for the high quality standards of Apple instead of slowing down the development of all the software projects Apple is involved with.

There are a number of Apple Pro applications which have not made the transition to Cocoa 64 bit programming or whose interface has not been reviewed and unified. iTunes needs to be modular and simplified instead of being an all-in-one storefront and digital media reader with constant updates.

Mac OS X needs to support natively the most popular lossless audio formats such as APE, FLAC and WavePack instead of being restricted to WAVE and Apple lossless. Just like VLC Media Player and the VLC Web browser plugin, Mac OS X needs to support natively the Windows Media Audio format used by many internet radio stations. And on, and on, and on...

Apple has opened up several new market segments over the last 5 years, but has not hired and trained enough new software programmers to develop iOS, Mac OS X, Mac OS X applications and Apple Pro applications.


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whats needed really is the option to assign on a per contact basis "silent" mode.

I have a number of people who I honestly don't particularly wish to talk to, but at the same time I can't outright block them. I'ts easier to let them go to voicemail or leave a text for me to deal with at a later date.

Of course if carriers let you for free block specific numbers, that would help too. I have a few people I wish to receive out of service notifications on my number, who call me for no reason except to use and abuse my expertise in some field without pay or any compensation.
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You can go hear them without installing here: http://gizmodo.com/5662382/the-new-iphone-sms-ringtones


i suspect these new tones are just for testing purposes because they all sound horrible! i much prefer Tri-tone for SMS
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i want custom text tones. then i can use the Metal Gear codec sound!
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I want to be able to view my list of Recent-calls or my visual-voicemails while I'm on the other line.
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Those are the most horrible new text message sounds ever. They should be 1 second at most, not 5 or 6 like some of them. Just horrible.
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And no new Mac OS X 10.6.5 beta? The last public beta was version 10H548 issued almost 2 weeks ago.

Apple should hire new software programmers and train them over the next 2 years for the high quality standards of Apple instead of slowing down the development of all the software projects Apple is involved with.

There are a number of Apple Pro applications which have not made the transition to Cocoa 64 bit programming or whose interface has not been reviewed and unified. iTunes needs to be modular and simplified instead of being an all-in-one storefront and digital media reader with constant updates.

Mac OS X needs to support natively the most popular lossless audio formats such as APE, FLAC and WavePack instead of being restricted to WAVE and Apple lossless. Just like VLC Media Player and the VLC Web browser plugin, Mac OS X needs to support natively the Windows Media Audio format used by many internet radio stations. And on, and on, and on...

Apple has opened up several new market segments over the last 5 years, but has not hired and trained enough new software programmers to develop iOS, Mac OS X, Mac OS X applications and Apple Pro applications.



Why should Apple do any of this? Because you wish it? Sorry, that's not good enough. You do realize that supporting other codecs isn't just an iTunes function. Every iPod made since 2001 supports at least some of the various codecs that Apple officially supports. Any changes to that list will have to be written for many devices and a lot of them are done at the hardware level for maximum battery performance. And as for Windows Media Audio, Apple said years ago they would support it if the format ever got decent acceptance. That's never happened.

Lastly, you aren't privy to any of Apple's resource issues, project plans or strategic vision with their products. Stop acting like you can swoop in and solve all their problems with unsolicited advice.
post #19 of 38
All I really want for my SMS ringtone is the Wilhelm Scream. A colleague of mine who has an Android phone had that for a few weeks, and I have to say I laughed every time he got a text.

We need to start an internet campaign to get Apple to include the Wilhelm Scream in the 4.2 GM. Make it happen people.
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whats needed really is the option to assign on a per contact basis "silent" mode.

I have a number of people who I honestly don't particularly wish to talk to, but at the same time I can't outright block them. I'ts easier to let them go to voicemail or leave a text for me to deal with at a later date.

Of course if carriers let you for free block specific numbers, that would help too. I have a few people I wish to receive out of service notifications on my number, who call me for no reason except to use and abuse my expertise in some field without pay or any compensation.

Are you talking about voice calls? Unless I misunderstand your comment, there is a hack where you create or download a "silence" file, convert it to a ringtone (unless it's already the right file format), and assign to each contact you wish to send direct to voicemail. Haven't tried myself so not sure if there are drawbacks. For example, don't know if it would turn off vibrate.

Another option for someone like you who needs needs a more robust voice mail handling features is google voice. I don't need the features myself but you can control each call on a per contact basis. Go directly to voicemail, custom greetings, etc, etc. The problem of course is that you have to get them to call you google voice number instead of your current cell number. And last time I checked (quite a while ago), google voice did not allow you to port your cell number. That's one of the many reasons I gave up on that service but perhaps things have changed. If so, it may be (or not) an option for you.
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While additions are welcome, custom SMS tones are really all that's needed.
Even better would be SMS tones per contact, with the option of selecting a custom tone.

Can you not do either of those two things with the current iOS?
post #22 of 38
Whether they're just testing new SMS tones for now or are really including these, we don't and can't know. Maybe a wholly different set will appear in the final version.
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And no new Mac OS X 10.6.5 beta? The last public beta was version 10H548 issued almost 2 weeks ago.

Apple should hire new software programmers and train them over the next 2 years for the high quality standards of Apple instead of slowing down the development of all the software projects Apple is involved with.

There are a number of Apple Pro applications which have not made the transition to Cocoa 64 bit programming or whose interface has not been reviewed and unified. iTunes needs to be modular and simplified instead of being an all-in-one storefront and digital media reader with constant updates.

Mac OS X needs to support natively the most popular lossless audio formats such as APE, FLAC and WavePack instead of being restricted to WAVE and Apple lossless. Just like VLC Media Player and the VLC Web browser plugin, Mac OS X needs to support natively the Windows Media Audio format used by many internet radio stations. And on, and on, and on...

Apple has opened up several new market segments over the last 5 years, but has not hired and trained enough new software programmers to develop iOS, Mac OS X, Mac OS X applications and Apple Pro applications.



Yea, Apple really needs to cater to all the illegal music you download in lossless.

You tell 'em..

( don't even argue, FLAC needs are limited unless all you do is download whole albums from people sharing them)
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whats needed really is the option to assign on a per contact basis "silent" mode.

It won't help you for SMS messages but you can create a ringtone of 30 seconds of silence and assign it to the contacts you're not interested in hearing from.
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whats needed really is the option to assign on a per contact basis "silent" mode.

If you have access to GarageBand this is easy to do. You create an empty ringtone called "Silent" and then assign that to the contacts you want. I collect all the wrong numbers I get into a contact called "Wrong Number" and then assign it the Silent ring so I don't ever get bothered by those second (or third) calls from the same wrong number.

This works best if vibrate is off so that the Silent ringtone is truly silent.

If you don't have GarageBand or access to it, just googling "silent m4r" might find you some silent rings others have made that you can use.
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Originally Posted by ouragan View Post

support natively the most popular lossless audio formats such as APE, FLAC and WavePack instead of being restricted to WAVE and Apple lossless. Just like VLC Media Player and the VLC Web browser plugin, Mac OS X needs to support natively the Windows Media Audio format used by many internet radio stations. And on, and on, and on...

I'm not going to speak for OS/X, but Apple limits the codecs to ones that can be hardware accelerated, provide high quality, can be DRM'd and are space (and bandwidth) efficient.

Like with Flash and other technologies they don't care for, they don't support them in the hopes that they will die off and disappear.
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Apple should...iTunes needs...Mac OS X needs...And on, and on, and on...

On and on indeed. Maybe Apple just doesn't agree with you.
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( don't even argue, FLAC needs are limited unless all you do is download whole albums from people sharing them)

Really? Seems to me FLAC is the preferred format for all of the high quality audiophile studios who SELL the albums online in higher bitrates than antiquated CD's can handle. FLAC is also a big portion of the legal live concert recordings that are shared on line by many bands.
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I know! That's comedy. Who really values the opinions of anyone bent out of shape about a changed icon? The old one was fine. The new one is fine.

Tell that to the CEO of GAP!
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I find all the new ones are just too long to use for SMS alerts though.

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I can't stand long alert tones. I hope if that's the case, Apple will work on them some more.

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i suspect these new tones are just for testing purposes because they all sound horrible! i much prefer Tri-tone for SMS

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Those are the most horrible new text message sounds ever. They should be 1 second at most, not 5 or 6 like some of them. Just horrible.

The new SMS alert sounds don't seem usable for all texts --

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You can assign text tones to individual contacts. That was added in a previous beta.

-- in this context, they make more sense. Assign the longest and loudest to the work server "contact." I don't want an annoying "wake me up" tone for every single SMS.
post #31 of 38
I liked Apple's choice of only a select few tones. They were short and noninvasive. I detest custom tones and music tones. Since so many have poor phone etiquette, I'm constantly hearing 30 seconds of Ke$sha every time a girl on campus gets a text (which is every other 30 seconds).

Apple's new tones are too long for my taste. I want a beep or two, check it, move on. Not a cacophony of text alerts. If the alert sound is longer than the text message itself, it's a fail in my book. If you like custom tones, fine, but please put your phone on silent in close public spaces, pleassssse!

And I'm so glad others here agree with me!
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post #32 of 38
How about adding a "Ringer off" indicator on the status bar so you don't have to keep looking on the side of the phone to see if the switch has been moved?
post #33 of 38
If that Gizmodo video is for real, the SMS alerts are terrible!

Too LONG, too cartoony, too obtrusive.

I will go mental hearing one of those tones each time I get texted.

Just let us create our own. How/Why is that such a problem?

What do Droid/Blackberry/Nokia text alerts sound like?
post #34 of 38
Dear Steve,

We don't need MORE SMS tones. We need CUSTOM SMS tones.

And text to speech alerts...

"Call from..."
"Text from..."

Thanks,

The World
post #35 of 38
They won't make the final build. Call me confident. They are that bad. Not to mention, they don't sound at all like text tones, in the baddest of senses.
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What do Droid/Blackberry/Nokia text alerts sound like?

Well on my old Nokia E65, I can set the text alert to anything I want.
post #37 of 38
Some people love to flaunt some people mostly silent their phone... That's why we in Indonesia love to put custom ringback tone/pulse. XD.
But, it does seemed like a late catching up.. Ah well...
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those are the most horrible new text message sounds ever. They should be 1 second at most, not 5 or 6 like some of them. Just horrible.

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