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post #41 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:18am
I use iDVD every week for the High School Band. I make end of the year video for the band and all the parents want DVD's. Why does Apple think the we don't need DVD's? I use Final Cut Express for my editing so what am I to use? Apple wont sell DVD Studio Pro outside of Final Cut. Video is not all on line yet even though I post lot's of video to youtube. People still like DVD's. Why can't Apple at lease make a DVD Studio Express for those that still need this capability.
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post #42 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:24am
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Unless you've got some seriously obscure hardware (and it seems likely this is your whole problem), only a dufus would run Leopard instead of Snow Leopard if the hardware they have can support Snow Leopard at all. It's faster and far more stable and it includes all the drivers from Leopard anyway.

Have you considered that he may have a Power PC based Mac and therefore not been able to upgrade to Snow Leopard?
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post #43 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:25am
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I use iDVD every week for the High School Band. I make end of the year video for the band and all the parents want DVD's. Why does Apple think the we don't need DVD's? I use Final Cut Express for my editing so what am I to use? Apple wont sell DVD Studio Pro outside of Final Cut. Video is not all on line yet even though I post lot's of video to youtube. People still like DVD's. Why can't Apple at lease make a DVD Studio Express for those that still need this capability.

I don't think that they will get rid of the functionality; they will just integrate it into iMovie '11. The need for a singular application to do this one task is not that great from a design perspective.
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post #44 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:25am
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I guess Lion makes sense. Probably one of the few (commonly known) species of big cat they haven't used. I guess they haven't used many others either (Lynx, Wildcat, Cougar, Bobcat to name a few, however a Cougar is in the Puma family and Bobcat is in the Lynx family). Soon they'll have to resort to domesticated breeds after that (i.e. OSX - Manx).
Anyone know why they chose cats to name their OS's? Too bad they didn't release 10.7 in March, would have made for good marketing, "March goes in like a Lion..." Or did the release date as October 7th.

There is always the African Serval. Can jump 12feet high from a stand still. Serval sounds very similar to Server. After all, OS X is based off of server technologies

 

 

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post #45 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:27am
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MAC OS X is a pain for concurrent, multiple monitors. I move my app to the secondary screen but the command menu is stuck on top of the first screen. Is there a fix for this?

It can be on any monitor you wish!
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post #46 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:28am
Mac OS X 10.7 King of the Jungle?
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post #47 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:28am
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Great to finally get some substantive news about Mac OS X 10.7. Was iLife and iWork 11 actually mentioned in the press release, or is that just speculation?

There was no press release, just an e-mailed invitation to a media event.

Apple's media invitations do not describe what the subject matter will be. They're just teasers with a few words and an image. The time, date and location are the only details.

Re-read the original article. It is clear that AppleInsider is just speculating.
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post #48 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:28am
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That really doesn't work with a 2x2 monitor orientation. One thing I've always liked about the Mac (even before switching) is that the menu exists on the top of the first monitor vs. a menu for each individual application window.

It isn't stuck on the first monitor you can relocate it to any monitor you wish, this has always been so on OS X.
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post #49 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:31am
While iChat is a standalone application, I seem to recall it is distributed with the OSX packages. I'd be a little surprised if AAPL decided to delay making iChat work with Facetime until a release of OSX 10.7 that seems still some months away. I'm sort of on the edge (!) of upgrading my iPhone 3G to iPhone 4, and this feature might push me over. Guessing there is a Grand Strategy(tm) about this in Cuppertino.

And will OSX 10.7 come in white?
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post #50 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:31am
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It isn't stuck on the first monitor you can relocate it to any monitor you wish, this has always been so on OS X.

I think he's referring to without going into system prefs and moving it.

 

 

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post #51 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:31am
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Man, I was hoping for Mac OS X Bay Cat.


I am waiting for the Maine Coon.
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post #52 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:32am
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I think he's referring to without going into system prefs and moving it.

Oh ok. Snag there is some times these things can happen by accident if too easy.
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post #53 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:36am
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It can be on any monitor you wish!

But only on one monitor. With the advent of very large screens - and multiple monitors - navigating from the window you're working in up to the top of the "primary" monitor is time consuming and a bit of a pain. It's not too bad if you can "throw" the pointer and have it stop at the top, but then you have to get back down to where you were working.

I'd be interested in Tog's thoughts on this subject.

Speaking of Tog: http://www.asktog.com/columns/079BentoSchmento.html

Hmmm....

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post #54 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:38am
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There was no press release, just an e-mailed invitation to a media event.

Apple's media invitations do not describe what the subject matter will be. They're just teasers with a few words and an image. The time, date and location are the only details.

Re-read the original article. It is clear that AppleInsider is just speculating.

Right'press release' was too strong a phrase. I have searched around, and can find nothing substantive about iLife or iWork '11. That doesn't mean that those packages won't be in the media event. They were last updated in 2009.

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post #55 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:40am
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Have you considered that he may have a Power PC based Mac and therefore not been able to upgrade to Snow Leopard?

Yes, but I ruled it out because he has said previously that he chose not to run it.
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post #56 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:41am
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I didn't make it clear. In the 'monitors' control panel you can drag the menu bar.

I believe a nice solution would be enable Spaces to be assigned to different monitors. This way every monitor will have its own menu bar and you can assign specific applications to run on specific monitor.
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post #57 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:41am
The Lion behind the Apple logo is just Apple letting the proverbial cat out of the bag.....


Aslan is an Apple fan.
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post #58 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:44am
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It can be on any monitor you wish!

The OP is referring to having the menu bar on multiple monitors *at once* - to which there us currently no 'fix'.
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post #59 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:45am
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Aslan is an Apple fan.

I love it!
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post #60 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:45am
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I liked iDVD. What is there to use if Apple drops this program?

I read that they would make iDVD a separate download, a way of de-emphasizing it before they kill it or stop updating it.

Jobs has to hate optical media. They want you using AirPlay, not DVDs.

I also think iLife needs an app to make rich media books for iOS, especially the iPad. A book that might have a mix of photos and video on various pages that you swipe through on the iPad.
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post #61 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:51am
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I use iDVD every week for the High School Band. I make end of the year video for the band and all the parents want DVD's. Why does Apple think the we don't need DVD's? I use Final Cut Express for my editing so what am I to use? Apple wont sell DVD Studio Pro outside of Final Cut. Video is not all on line yet even though I post lot's of video to youtube. People still like DVD's. Why can't Apple at lease make a DVD Studio Express for those that still need this capability.

They will probably make iDVD still available in the current version via download, like they did when they updated to the current version of iMovie. They probably just won't update it and include it on the install disk anymore.
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post #62 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:51am
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Anybody else feel just a tiny bit sorry for Microsoft - they just had the WP7 launch, media interested and the blogs full of Microsoft for a while and then along comes Apple with this announcement and now for the next week all the blogs will be counting down to the Apple event.

Genius marketing.

Dude if you are going to pinch my quote from MacRumors do me the honour of at least acknowledging it.

"Anybody else feel just a tiny bit sorry for Microsoft - they just had the WP7 launch, media interested and the blogs full of Microsoft for a while and then along comes Apple with this announcement and now for the next week all the blogs will be counting down to the Apple event.

Genius marketing. "
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post #63 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:51am
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But only on one monitor. With the advent of very large screens - and multiple monitors - navigating from the window you're working in up to the top of the "primary" monitor is time consuming and a bit of a pain. It's not too bad if you can "throw" the pointer and have it stop at the top, but then you have to get back down to where you were working.

I'd be interested in Tog's thoughts on this subject.

Speaking of Tog: http://www.asktog.com/columns/079BentoSchmento.html

Hmmm....

- Jasen.

I work on 2 x 30" cinema displays with FCPro and for me the menu on one works just fine. Spread over two would be less efficient IMHO. I can 'throw the pointer' it is built in to the OS, a fast motion makes it go further faster, kind of like throwing. It may all be moot in a few years I drool at the thought of finger control over such a set up and the screens laying down like a key board.
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post #64 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:52am
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Yes, it's called "Spaces."

That works just fine with 1 monitor. However, with 2 (or more), even inside a 'space', the same problems exists. Thanks for your insight though.
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post #65 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:54am
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"appears to show a lion"

For gods sake just say "shows a Lion", how obvious do you want it to be?

I agree, I can only assume many people aren't very good at identifying animals based on this and some of the comments on engadget.

You can see its bloody great mane behind the Apple bite!
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post #66 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:54am
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Yes, it's called "Spaces."

Apple won with me fighting multiple monitors; I broke down and got the 27". Large monitors are a pain to work with some times, but you have to be kidding thinking Spaces is an alternative.

When you need a lot of information on the screen, it becomes hard to navigate between the right side and the menubar all the way on the right. The dock works much better as it is at least centered.

I haven't seen anything that really works well with multiple monitors out of the box. There are a few windows add-ons that will make the experience work pretty well, but it is a failure on OSX.

Would have loved to have a 2x2 or 1x3 monitor array, but there doesn't seem a good way to do it with a single OS. (My needs are mail/browser in one window, CAD in the second, and Excel in the third generally. Most of my spreadsheets have 15-20 columns and 50-1,000 rows...
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post #67 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:55am
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I want to see that lion stick his head out of that Apple 'hole' and do the MGM roar.

I agree. Apple should throw a few bucks at MGM (is that Turner now?) and use the famous roar.
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post #68 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:57am
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Anybody else feel just a tiny bit sorry for Microsoft - they just had the WP7 launch, media interested and the blogs full of Microsoft for a while and then along comes Apple with this announcement and now for the next week all the blogs will be counting down to the Apple event.

Genius marketing.

I really never feel sorry for MS. They didn't feel sorry for putting people out of business back in the 90s using illegal methods.
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post #69 of 292
10/13/10 at 10:59am
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That is incorrect Windows serves your menus in your window, and not across the top of your screen.

Re-read what he actually said:

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This is by design and convention. There is only 1 menubar, just like in windows and linux there is only 1 taskbar. Those don't change monitors either.

One menubar in Mac OSX. One taskbar in Windows and Linux.

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post #70 of 292
10/13/10 at 11:00am
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Yep, 10.7 is Lion. Looks like we'll be getting an overview of 10.7. Yeah! Finally!

The MacBook Air, new iPads, and software updates to the AppleTV can take back seat.

"Lion"... hmm... I hope not. Everyone will start saying things like, "Darn it, my Mac locked up. I ain't Lion!", or "Apple is feeding us to the Lions".... No... please no.

I'd rather it be something like Kimba, or Leo, or something less prone to bad puns.

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post #71 of 292
10/13/10 at 11:03am
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Haven't, yet, read any of the posts-- so I'm not confused by logic!

I predict that the next OS X will be called OS X 10.7 Chessy Cat

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post #72 of 292
10/13/10 at 11:08am
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Helloooo!
Me wants a Lion for my Mac.

Me too! This is the most exciting Apple news I've read in a while! I gotta believe that they've been saving the "Lion" moniker for a very special update.
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post #73 of 292
10/13/10 at 11:09am
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Right…'press release' was too strong a phrase. I have searched around, and can find nothing substantive about iLife or iWork '11. That doesn't mean that those packages won't be in the media event. They were last updated in 2009.

The odds are pretty good that they will offer a new iLife suite, mostly due to the online sighting of a German iLife guidebook.

The media events make no promises, yet also do not exclude the possibility of any given product announcement.

Generally speaking, Apple does not pre-announce, so pretty much everything is speculation. They say stuff when there are things to announce. Otherwise they keep their mouths shut. This is classic "under promise, over deliver." Smart.

The only exception to this that I can remember in recent times is the white iPhone.

Where there is substantive news about iLife or iWork, there will be webpages to view at Apple.com.
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post #74 of 292
10/13/10 at 11:11am
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MAC OS X is a pain for concurrent, multiple monitors. I move my app to the secondary screen but the command menu is stuck on top of the first screen. Is there a fix for this?

In the Displays > Arrangement section of System Prefs you can arrange the displays relative to each other by dragging them, likewise you can drag the menu bar over and back between displays. You can even position it between vertically aligned screens if you want.

Lion doesn't have the same ring as Panther, Tiger, Leopard or (how cool) Snow Leopard. Also you can call someone a Lion b*****d.


OS X King maybe.

Or maybe some cool African word for Lion.


...please not the name from the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, please not...
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post #75 of 292
10/13/10 at 11:12am
It's about time!

I remind everyone about my own two predictions regarding 10.7:

1. Sandboxed OS is a logical move after the intro of Grand Central Dispatch in 10.6.

2. A true resolution independent UI (vector graphics) and full support for OpenGL 3.

IMO these are the two main upgrades.
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post #76 of 292
10/13/10 at 11:20am
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Anybody else feel just a tiny bit sorry for Microsoft?

mm... Nope.

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post #77 of 292
10/13/10 at 11:21am
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10/13/10 at 11:23am
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The odds are pretty good that they will offer a new iLife suite, mostly due to the online sighting of a German iLife guidebook.

The media events make no promises, yet also do not exclude the possibility of any given product announcement.

Generally speaking, Apple does not pre-announce, so pretty much everything is speculation. They say stuff when there are things to announce. Otherwise they keep their mouths shut. This is classic "under promise, over deliver." Smart.

The only exception to this that I can remember in recent times is the white iPhone.

Where there is substantive news about iLife or iWork, there will be webpages to view at Apple.com.

Yes, and people were complaining about the missing white iPhone! I didn't get iLIfe 09 because it was not a 64-bit suite; now I am waiting on an iLife suite update.

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10/13/10 at 11:24am
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I want to see that lion stick his head out of that Apple 'hole' and do the MGM roar.

To the tune of the Mac Startup chimes! Steve? Send a cheque.
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post #80 of 292
10/13/10 at 11:26am
There will be no such thing as a 11.6" or 13" MacBook Air.

Instead, all Macbook Pros will lose their slot loading drive in favour of an increased battery life and better hard drives. This will actually be a major upgrade for the Macbook Pro family!
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