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Originally Posted by Nano_tube View Post

2. A true resolution independent UI (vector graphics) and full support for OpenGL 3.

Goodlord, I hope so!

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post #82 of 292
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Originally Posted by tarZen View Post

And there I was wondering how they are gonna top Lion after this.

OS X Tarzan!
post #83 of 292
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Originally Posted by tarZen View Post

And there I was wondering how they are gonna top Lion after this.

There's still Cougar and Clouded Leopard, also Cougar is really just another name for Puma.

So we should be getting OSX 11, or OSXI after just one or two more cycles.
post #84 of 292
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Originally Posted by psychodoughboy View Post

Just a nitpick, but can you guys please stop saying 'the Far East'? This isn't the 19th century, and these parts aren't being shipped from Cathay by the East India Tea Company, nor were they sold to Apple by strange, veiled eunuchs.

...err 18th century


There was an old lady, lived over the sea
And she was an Island Queen.
Her daughter lived off in a new country,
With an ocean of water between;

The old lady's pockets were full of gold
But never contented was she,
So she called on her daughter to pay her a tax
Of three pence a pound on her tea.

"Now mother, dear mother," the daughter replied,
"I shan't do the thing you ax.
I'm willing to pay a fair price for the tea,
But never the three penny tax."

"You shall," quoth the mother, and reddened with rage,
"For you're my own daughter, you see,
And sure, 'tis quite proper the daughter should pay
Her mother a tax on her tea."

And so the old lady her servant called up
And packed off a budget of tea;
And eager for three pence a pound, she put
In enough for a large family.

She order'd her servants to bring home the tax,
Declaring her child should obey,
Or old as she was, and almost woman grown,
She'd half whip her life away.

The tea was conveyed to the daughter's door,
All down by the ocean's side;
And the bouncing girl pour'd out every pound
In the dark and boiling tide.

And then she called out to the Island Queen,
"O mother, dear mother," quoth she,
"Your tea you may have when 'tis steep'd enough
But never a tax from me."

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post #85 of 292
I had all but given up on this event. It seemed likely in August and September but this is getting pretty late into the month. Has Apple ever held a Mac special event this late into October?
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post #86 of 292
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Originally Posted by emig647 View Post

This is by design and convention. There is only 1 menubar, just like in windows and linux there is only 1 taskbar. Those don't change monitors either.

Honestly, imo, the menubar should go all the way across. But I see why they chose not to (working with different sized monitors).

I use two displays at work stacked vertically. I have an external display (with menu bar) on a box so it sits above the display in my MBP.

I tried putting the display beside my MBP, but the displays are different sizes and resolutions and they just wouldn't line up in a way I found comfortable for working.
post #87 of 292
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Originally Posted by bloggerblog View Post

Photoshop launched on my Cintiq screen ... move across two screens to access the drop-down.

I use the small Cintiq as a second screen and I have one of the buttons set to switch between mapping onto the big screen or drawing onto the small one.

Before I figured this out I used to reach for the mouse to zip up to the big screen and do all that. This way it's easier.
post #88 of 292
nice, OSX 10.7 and please update the macbook pro´s
post #89 of 292
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Apple will hold a special media event next Wednesday to reveal its latest offerings in the Mac space, which may include new MacBook Airs, a preview of Mac OS X 10.7, and an unveiling of iLife and iWork \\'11.

Maybe...

HDMI jacks on all laptops?
SD card slots on all laptops?
BluRay option on all laptops with optical drives?
post #90 of 292
Fantastic! About time, I am really keen to see what they have been doing Macwise. I could imagine that the new OS allows a better sync among different devices. This would be quite important. This would be in line with new iWork and iLife that also need a better sync among device features. Can't wait to see what they will deliver!
post #91 of 292
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Originally Posted by Mike Eggleston View Post

While what you say is true, it isn't what emig647 said. What he said was correct, and that is the taskbar doesn't span across multiple monitors. However, this is way off topic.

What I would like to know is what everyone wants from 10.7: Resolution Independence (Odds: 1:2); FaceTime integration (Odds: 3:1), or maybe even running your iPhone/iPad apps directly on the computer (Odds: 1:100)? What is your favorite?

Some of these are interrelated-- especially to resolution independence.

Many iOS apps make sense on the desktop-- and with the simulator, already run on the desktop... so I'd up the odds of that.

1) Resolution Independent desktop so when BackToMyMac (or any VNC) is run from an iPad the UI automatically, focuses, reflows, and enlarges content and controls for Touch UI.

2) above requires Touch UI for OS X.

3) Support for Touch Screen Mac

4) Use of iPads as a co-accessories to a Mac:
-- touch/pen tablet inputs
-- additional Mac displays
-- drag and drop from one to the other

5) Home Server / Backup for content

6) Cloud TimeMachine service

7) Prosumer apps with Touch UI as well as legacy UI

8) iPad Video Wall ala Quartz Composer Visualizer


That's for starters!

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post #92 of 292
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Originally Posted by mr O View Post

There will be no such thing as a 11.6" or 13" MacBook Air.

Instead, all Macbook Pros will lose their slot loading drive in favour of an increased battery life and better hard drives. This will actually be a major upgrade for the Macbook Pro family!

I hope so, but with the last notebook update in April and the updates moving farther apart and with no new Intel releases i wonder if well see any updates to the any of those Mac notebooks again this year.
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post #93 of 292
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Yes, but I ruled it out because he has said previously that he chose not to run it.

My parents are still running Leopard on Intel hardware because they refuse to throw away their perfectly good LaserWriter and buy a new printer. Snow Leopard does not speak AppleTalk.
post #94 of 292
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Originally Posted by appl View Post

Maybe...

HDMI jacks on all laptops?
SD card slots on all laptops?
BluRay option on all laptops with optical drives?

If you just stated the first two above, I would say, you had a chance, but BluRay, well keep dreaming! Maybe Steve will prove me wrong, but I doubt it, still have not seem the market penetration of bluRay in major markets except for Playstation 3.
post #95 of 292
You all do know that you CAN actually change which monitor the menu bar is on right? Simply drag it's graphical representation from the one display to the other, while in "display" in preferences.
post #96 of 292
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Originally Posted by Nano_tube View Post

It's about time!

I remind everyone about my own two predictions regarding 10.7:

1. Sandboxed OS is a logical move after the intro of Grand Central Dispatch in 10.6.

2. A true resolution independent UI (vector graphics) and full support for OpenGL 3.

IMO these are the two main upgrades.

Yes! Very good points. I'd like to add one to that list:

3. A new UI more similar to iTunes with less AQUA.
post #97 of 292
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

5) Home Server / Backup for content

This would make enormous sense, once AirPlay is out. Maybe they use the MacMini as a home server, with the possibility to add more storage to it via USB (3.0). Then Apple would finally have arrived in the living room.
post #98 of 292
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Originally Posted by Mactommy View Post

I use iDVD every week for the High School Band. I make end of the year video for the band and all the parents want DVD's. Why does Apple think the we don't need DVD's? I use Final Cut Express for my editing so what am I to use? Apple wont sell DVD Studio Pro outside of Final Cut. Video is not all on line yet even though I post lot's of video to youtube. People still like DVD's. Why can't Apple at lease make a DVD Studio Express for those that still need this capability.

I suspect that current versions of most apps will work in the next OS.

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post #99 of 292
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Originally Posted by noexpectations View Post

MAC OS X is a pain for concurrent, multiple monitors. I move my app to the secondary screen but the command menu is stuck on top of the first screen. Is there a fix for this?

While I can see your point of view I don't think you will find wide agreement in the Mac community nor at Apple. It is certainly a toss up because I've been fustrated myself with this behavior but yet see why it works well at times. In a nut shell I'd be surprised to see a difference.

On the otherhand there is this idea in the back of my head that suggests that the GUI may be ready for a major overhaul. In part that would involve the incorporation of some of Touch, resolution independence and possibly 3D. So who knows, in seven days we will all know.
post #100 of 292
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

Some of these are interrelated-- especially to resolution independence.

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That's for starters!

Id be very surprised if RI didnt arrive this time. They simply cant increase the resolutions unless they address this issue with RI or use an intermediary layer like Windows has had for many years, but I dont see Apple going that route.

Id like to see FindMyMac incorporated into the OS and have it pull the HW BiAs so even if a machine is stolen and the OS reinstalled it can still be located. I think this sort of security would boost Mac and MobileMe sales. Id also like to see GPS in every Mac notebook and an option for a 3G card.
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post #101 of 292
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Originally Posted by bloggerblog View Post

But still for the sake of using multiple screen like many highend artists do, an option to turn on menus for individual windows or individual applications will be appreciated. When I have Photoshop launched on my Cintiq screen, which is my third screen, it's a pain in the neck to always have to move across two screens to access the drop-down, I do use shortcuts and I programmed my own shortcuts too, but the experience is not the same.

I think the easiest would be to mirror the menu bar on all monitors (optionally per monitor of course). Would add some complexity to the Monitor section in the System Preferences, though it could be activated by alt-dragging the menu bar in there and highlighting the 'master' menubar (the one which would define the position of the Dock) in a different colour.
post #102 of 292
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Originally Posted by _Rick_V_ View Post

iChat to work with Facetime (obvious)

64-bit kernel turned on by default (estimated 5%-10% performance improvement).

ASLR fully realized (for security)

Usage/adoption/improvements to QuickTime X (i.e. Make it usable in Final Cut, etc)

OpenGL 4

OpenCL (actually use it in programs. To my knowledge, no one is really taking advantage of this yet).

One big thing, I'd guess the entire OS and all apps will be compiled with LLVM/CLANG, which likely means smaller, faster code. Possibly they will deliver apps as LLVM "machine" code, meaning the end of fat binaries (aka universal binaries), because in many cases it's faster to translate LLVM code into target code than to link traditional binaries. Add to that the space savings, and the fact that iPhone apps also are going to be LLVM compiled, and we might be looking at truly CPU independent code.
No more need for upgrading any app just because the CPU changed.
post #103 of 292
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Originally Posted by Mactommy View Post

I use iDVD every week for the High School Band. I make end of the year video for the band and all the parents want DVD's. Why does Apple think the we don't need DVD's? I use Final Cut Express for my editing so what am I to use? Apple wont sell DVD Studio Pro outside of Final Cut. Video is not all on line yet even though I post lot's of video to youtube. People still like DVD's. Why can't Apple at lease make a DVD Studio Express for those that still need this capability.

Most likely you would still be able to download the last version of iDVD like they did with iMovie. They just won't add anything new to it anymore or promote it in any way.

EDIT: Atanner scooped me.
post #104 of 292
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Originally Posted by emig647 View Post

This is by design and convention. There is only 1 menubar, just like in windows and linux there is only 1 taskbar. Those don't change monitors either.

Honestly, imo, the menubar should go all the way across. But I see why they chose not to (working with different sized monitors).

I'd like to see the option to duplicate the menu bar on different monitors. Then it's at the top of whatever screen I drag my monitor into.
post #105 of 292
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Originally Posted by John.B View Post

Goodlord, I hope so!

Resolution independence may take a little longer as it's clear third party developers are not ready. You can experiment with resolution independence using the developer tools - in the Quartz tool you can turn on screen magnification to simulate it. Turn it on to 2x and then start launching apps - see which ones have a lot of work to do. Note that not all of Apple's apps are ready either.
post #106 of 292
I have iworks for ipad and it is awesome. Now if ilife comes to the ipad Game over for the competition.
post #107 of 292
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Originally Posted by vexorg View Post

Have you considered that he may have a Power PC based Mac and therefore not been able to upgrade to Snow Leopard?

No, because he said he "skipped it", implying he had a choice.
post #108 of 292
I hope the next version of iLife has a nice EPUB maker. Yes, Pages will export to EPUB but I would like something that will allow for adding sections and chapters.


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Originally Posted by rcfa View Post

One big thing, I'd guess the entire OS and all apps will be compiled with LLVM/CLANG, which likely means smaller, faster code. Possibly they will deliver apps as LLVM "machine" code, meaning the end of fat binaries (aka universal binaries), because in many cases it's faster to translate LLVM code into target code than to link traditional binaries. Add to that the space savings, and the fact that iPhone apps also are going to be LLVM compiled, and we might be looking at truly CPU independent code.
No more need for upgrading any app just because the CPU changed.

How much space savings would you imagine for an entire OS? How much work will this be considering Snow Leopard did a huge amount of back-end overhaul without changing the UI much?

I assumed that the UI would be the focus of this update and wondered if cheaper releases focusing on back-end then front-end in a tik-tok fashion might be prudent.
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post #109 of 292
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Originally Posted by walshbj View Post

I also think iLife needs an app to make rich media books for iOS, especially the iPad. A book that might have a mix of photos and video on various pages that you swipe through on the iPad.

Mmm... good thought!

I'd go a bit further and include iTunes LPs, iTunes Extras... and possibly iAds.

Then there's that little need for an app that runs on an iPad (and Mac) and creates apps for an iPad. HyperCard?

Since others have mentioned Mac Pro apps -- there are some that cry out for a touch UI.

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post #110 of 292
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Originally Posted by Bregalad View Post

My parents are still running Leopard on Intel hardware because they refuse to throw away their perfectly good LaserWriter and buy a new printer. Snow Leopard does not speak AppleTalk.

Not trying to be mean here, but old people resist change or moving forward in life. In fact it's really the functional definition of "old" in a nutshell (whatever one's chronological age).
post #111 of 292
THE END OF MAC OSX The last cat before iOS Macs....
DOOOM!
post #112 of 292
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Originally Posted by psychodoughboy View Post

Just a nitpick, but can you guys please stop saying 'the Far East'? This isn't the 19th century, and these parts aren't being shipped from Cathay by the East India Tea Company, nor were they sold to Apple by strange, veiled eunuchs.

It's still referred to as the "Far East". Are you finding something derogatory in that term? When I hear it, I think about a region in the world, not about eunuchs, etc. I live in Arizona, and you can call it the Southwest even if we don't still have gunslingers and masked bank and/or train robbers riding around on stallions.

Thompson
post #113 of 292
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Originally Posted by markm49uk View Post

Dude if you are going to pinch my quote from MacRumors do me the honour of at least acknowledging it.

"Anybody else feel just a tiny bit sorry for Microsoft - they just had the WP7 launch, media interested and the blogs full of Microsoft for a while and then along comes Apple with this announcement and now for the next week all the blogs will be counting down to the Apple event.

Genius marketing. "

I think, to some degree, the timing of these announcements is planned to upstage the competition.

Apple does it!

MSFT does it!

Others do it, too.

The difference is, that apple always seems to have something real in its back pocket -- that it can pull out when it needs an announcement.

Another consideration for the timing is around earnings calls (Boffo, or not so much). Designed to build momentum or distract.

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post #114 of 292
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Originally Posted by emig647 View Post

This is by design and convention. There is only 1 menubar, just like in windows and linux there is only 1 taskbar. Those don't change monitors either.

Honestly, imo, the menubar should go all the way across. But I see why they chose not to (working with different sized monitors).

I don't think that would work well.

I'd rather see the complete menubar on ALL monitors (as an option). The menu would be the same at the top of each monitor, so it wouldn't matter which one you chose - and you'd save going back and forth between monitors. You could turn it of on some monitors-for example if you have a 2x2 arrangement and only want it on the top monitors.
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post #115 of 292
I bet the wallpaper will be aweseme... maybe a lion in space, a la Lion King...
post #116 of 292
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

...err 18th century


There was an old lady, lived over the sea
And she was an Island Queen.
Her daughter lived off in a new country,
With an ocean of water between;

The old lady's pockets were full of gold
But never contented was she,
So she called on her daughter to pay her a tax
Of three pence a pound on her tea.

"Now mother, dear mother," the daughter replied,
"I shan't do the thing you ax.
I'm willing to pay a fair price for the tea,
But never the three penny tax."

"You shall," quoth the mother, and reddened with rage,
"For you're my own daughter, you see,
And sure, 'tis quite proper the daughter should pay
Her mother a tax on her tea."

And so the old lady her servant called up
And packed off a budget of tea;
And eager for three pence a pound, she put
In enough for a large family.

She order'd her servants to bring home the tax,
Declaring her child should obey,
Or old as she was, and almost woman grown,
She'd half whip her life away.

The tea was conveyed to the daughter's door,
All down by the ocean's side;
And the bouncing girl pour'd out every pound
In the dark and boiling tide.

And then she called out to the Island Queen,
"O mother, dear mother," quoth she,
"Your tea you may have when 'tis steep'd enough
But never a tax from me."

.

Cool poem.

But I don't get the whole "Queen" and "daughter" thing. America can hardly be considered a feminine entity, and at the time of the tax revolt England had a King, not a Queen. Should be "King" and "son" it seems.
post #117 of 292
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Originally Posted by stldoug View Post

Everybody seems to be missing the "swivel" in the logo. Wasn't there a rumor about Mac OS X switching between iOS and Mac OS X via tilting a monitor? Could this be a hint that it might be true?

At least not in the sense of running a new or different OS. Most likely Touch gesture will simply be integrated into the Mac GUI.

I'd be shocked if they went to something so modal. All Apple really needs to do is to make Touch gestures a form of input. Just like a mouse is handled differently in the user code so to could Touch gestures. In any event I don't know where this idea comes from that iOS and OS/X are all that different. Really they aren't and switching OS's is not required to bring Touch capabilities to the Mac.
post #118 of 292
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Originally Posted by Bregalad View Post

I use two displays at work stacked vertically. I have an external display (with menu bar) on a box so it sits above the display in my MBP.

I tried putting the display beside my MBP, but the displays are different sizes and resolutions and they just wouldn't line up in a way I found comfortable for working.

This works fine for me with a 20" display but with a 24" display this is stretching things a bit.
post #119 of 292
Oh my gosh ... from the picture it looks like we're looking at

OS 10.7 "Aslan"
post #120 of 292
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Originally Posted by walshbj View Post

I also think iLife needs an app to make rich media books for iOS, especially the iPad. A book that might have a mix of photos and video on various pages that you swipe through on the iPad.

There is a beginning of that already:
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