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Pictures of a possible MacBook Air prototype with no hard drive and extra battery space have surfaced ahead of Apple's Oct. 20 "Back to the Mac" event.

The photos, obtained by Engadget from an anonymous source, show a unibody frame that appears to be for a 13.3-inch laptop computer, which could possibly be an early prototype of an upcoming revision to the MacBook Air. The computer appears to have USB plugs on both the left and right sides, Mini DisplayPort and an SD card reader.

Engadget's source claims the rest of the machine is also unibody, including the "large single mouse button," but the screen will keep the current MacBook Air style, instead of the "edge-to-edge glass with black edges" that current MacBook Pro models have.

The laptop allegedly runs the same 1.86 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo as the current MacBook Air, further evidence that the photos are of an early prototype. Engadget's source claims "the model dates back to at least April."

The unverified photos represent "just one SKU," so Apple may have something else in store as well, wrote author Paul Miller.

AppleInsider confirmed Friday through several independent sources that Apple will release a smaller 11.6-inch MacBook Air next Wednesday at the company's "Back to the Mac" special event.

Another source familiar with the matter believes the smaller form factor will forgo conventional hard-disk drive (HDD) or solid state drive (SSD) storage options in favor of an "SSD Card" that resembles a stick of RAM, although AppleInsider is unable to confirm this detail.

Earlier this month, AppleInsider reported that supplies of the two existing 13.3-inch MacBook Airs had dried up throughout the company's indirect sales channels, suggesting that a complete overhaul to the line was imminent.




post #2 of 83
Yep- that's it!

I mean, I've got nothing to go on here... but at least I can say I called it if I'm right...
post #3 of 83
Only 2 gigs of RAM? Disappointing.
post #4 of 83
that could be my spleen!
Ugh!
post #5 of 83
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Another source familiar with the matter believes the smaller form factor will forgo conventional hard-disk drive (HDD) or solid state drive (SSD) storage options in favor of an "SSD Card" that resembles a stick of RAM, although AppleInsider is unable to confirm this detail.

It's in the picture, which quite unmistakably is an Apple laptop. Macbook Air RAM is soldered to the motherboard, which is the set of 8 chips just above the battery = 2GB. The SSD chip would be the board to the left of that, which resembles SSD chips in netbooks:

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/p...DMPES-32G.html

If they are using 25nm, it looks like 64GB x 4 = 256GB; if not, it would be 128GB. 256GB is plenty for most folks but I'm a bit disappointed by 2GB of RAM. I guess the SSD is fast enough to act as swap space but 3-4GB should be the minimum these days.

It'll be interesting to see what speed they get out of the SSD part. Sony manages to put their one in a quad RAID-0 configuration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrWfEw84faw

1.2GB copy in under 4 seconds so >300MB/s sequential write. They use a proprietary SSD chip to do this.

What I find interesting about devices like the Air is that people generally view them as the special cases but they are really more of a glimpse of the future for all laptops and I like it. I would love to see a Macbook styled pretty much the same way but with standard RAM slots to support up to 8GB and obviously more ports. If the SSD is 256GB, the Macbook can have that too.

What this MBA style suggests to me is that the price won't be much cheaper than it is now and they'd have to bring it into Macbook pricing.
post #6 of 83
I could be wrong, but using my handy-dandy trackpad zoom feature, doesn't that label on the right say something about Sanyo and Compaq and some model number that begins with an "FX-"?
post #7 of 83
There's a lot of space around that window for an 11.6" display.
post #8 of 83
Maybe the 13-inch MBA is refreched and there also another 11.6-inch sub-notebook?
post #9 of 83
Also, from the looks of the picture- on the left is a Mini DisplayPort, USB, SD card. On the right is MagSafe and another USB(?), no?
post #10 of 83
New Macbook Air 2010 : 13-inch, OSX 10.7
New Macbook Touch : 11.6-inch, OSX 10.7 + touch screen and IOS layer
post #11 of 83
"large single mouse button"... ...what a very odd thing for the source to say....

- There's no mouse...
- MacBooks don't have trackpad buttons (except for the {old} Air)
- The words "single mouse button" is usually reserved for 'haters'


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Seperately, I've always thought the Air is just waiting to get 3G included and my hunch is the networks just don't want Apple to release something that would stall their networks. Whilst I am fully aware that you can easily add 3G to any laptop by USB/WiFi I'm sure just Apple doing it would be the thin end of a massive bandwidth wedge for the service providers.

But there still aren't any signs here; I guess Apple are sticking with the tether with your iPhone line...
post #12 of 83
Alleged picture of the new Macbook Air 13.3-inch



HP mini 311 11.6-inch




Your conclusion?
post #13 of 83
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"large single mouse button"... ...what a very odd thing for the source to say....

- There's no mouse...
- MacBooks don't have trackpad buttons (except for the {old} Air)
- The words "single mouse button" is usually reserved for 'haters'

Although poorly worded, I believe the source was referring to the 'clickable' MacBook and MacBook Pro trackpads.
post #14 of 83
the 2 gig ram limit is what stopped me from purchasing the first Airs. Hope they figure this out.
post #15 of 83
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Originally Posted by Chilli View Post

Alleged picture of the new Macbook Air 13.3-inch



HP mini 311 11.6-inch




Your conclusion?

Smaller Picture Please.

and my conclusion?
the MacBook has an internal battery
by scale of the USB ports on the HP- the MacBook is 11.6" - 13" in size
the HP has more ports
The MacBooks logicboard is blue and quite small
post #16 of 83
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Originally Posted by mbene12 View Post

the 2 gig ram limit is what stopped me from purchasing the first Airs. Hope they figure this out.

2GB is more than the 1GB that's standard in most netbooks
post #17 of 83
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Originally Posted by mrtotes View Post

Seperately, I've always thought the Air is just waiting to get 3G included and my hunch is the networks just don't want Apple to release something that would stall their networks. Whilst I am fully aware that you can easily add 3G to any laptop by USB/WiFi I'm sure just Apple doing it would be the thin end of a massive bandwidth wedge for the service providers.

But there still aren't any signs here; I guess Apple are sticking with the tether with your iPhone line...

This topic keeps cropping up - Apple's development of products seemingly frustrated and limited by available bandwidth.

When the iPhone and iGreed were simultaneously introduced, where Apple sought a share of the ongoing connection/subscription revenue, I thought that Apple should just build/buy and operate it's own telecoms network with a near worldwide presence - like Vodafone. That way they could provide as much iBandwidth as necessary for the devices they sell, and milk the connection charges at the same time.

Apple needs to develop and operate their own iNet and do the vertical integration tango properly, rather than by proxy through 'deals.'
post #18 of 83
Well from decoding the serial number it was manufactured in Shanghai in 2010 on week 17 (April, May) with a model identifier of FX3... Kinda matches the label (FX).

Also that profiler doesn't show "Card Reader" so is that really an SD card reader (Could just be the OS doesn't recognise it I suppose)? And those 'USB' ports on either side don't look the same, the one on the right looks smaller, almost like a micro sim.... And where are the audio port/s?

So there's a mini DisplayPort, USB and maybe an SD card on the left. On the right there's MagSafe and a smaller USB port?

And is that just the WiFi chip up the top, could it include GPS or would that be separate?

Hmmm... It's a mystery.
post #19 of 83
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Originally Posted by Chilli View Post

Alleged picture of the new Macbook Air 13.3-inch



HP mini 311 11.6-inch




Your conclusion?

Apple spends more time than HP on making the insides of their products look pretty.
post #20 of 83
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Originally Posted by tricky3000 View Post

I could be wrong, but using my handy-dandy trackpad zoom feature, doesn't that label on the right say something about Sanyo and Compaq and some model number that begins with an "FX-"?

Hey, are your trying to stop all the speculation fun? It's obviously a typo!
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post #21 of 83
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Hey, are your trying to stop all the speculation fun? It's obviously a typo!

Yeah to throw us off track... But we didn't fall for that one.
post #22 of 83
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Originally Posted by Chilli View Post

Alleged picture of the new Macbook Air 13.3-inch

HP mini 311 11.6-inch

Your conclusion?

When you match the USB port size, it's quite clear that the pictured MBA is bigger. There's some perspective distortion so the measurements come out slightly lower at 12.5".



There's a possibility that it can be a 12.1" screen but the aspect ratio doesn't suggest 16:9.

My conclusion is the following:

13", 16:10, 1280 x 800, LED backlit but probably not IPS unfortunately though it would be nice
Core 2 Duo with either 9400M or 320M (there are two chips under the heatsink) - screenshot shows Core 2 Duo but could be faked
2GB RAM soldered
128GB-256GB PCI SSD

Currently it's $1499 for 1.83GHz C2D with 120GB 4200 rpm HDD and $1799 for 2.13GHz with 128GB SSD.
I reckon the new one will be $1499 for 1.83 with 128GB PCI SSD and $1799 for 2.13 with 256GB PCI SSD.

It would be good if they put the 320M GPU in it or if not, lower the prices a bit to say $1299 and $1599.
post #23 of 83
Thats a lot of plastic surrounding four mass produced battery cells. When the original Air was the first Macbook with an entirely integrated battery. It was also the first with a custom battery design by apple which has now spread to the entire macbook line. If this were an Apple design those batteries would be merged into a single large efficient battery to maximize life.

Only way this is an apple product is if its a very early prototype they didn't want to waste money manufacturing batteries on. Which of course is what this is claimed to be. That said, I just get sick of speculation. We'll know Wednesday and this speculation does nothing beside waste bandwidth.
post #24 of 83
Shame about mini-displayPort. I wish they'd get over it.

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post #25 of 83
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Thats a lot of plastic surrounding four mass produced battery cells. When the original Air was the first Macbook with an entirely integrated battery. It was also the first with a custom battery design by apple which has now spread to the entire macbook line. If this were an Apple design those batteries would be merged into a single large efficient battery to maximize life.

if you removed the plastic "bezel" around the batteries and combined them you could easily get the equivalent of 5 in there
post #26 of 83
USB ports on both sides? That tells you the rumor isn't real.
post #27 of 83
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Originally Posted by PXT View Post

Shame about mini-displayPort. I wish they'd get over it.

display out at 1600p, physically smaller connecter than HDMI, carries 2.1 audio, other manufacturers including Sony, lenovo and HP use it; what are they meant to be "getting over"?
post #28 of 83
Am I the only one that thinks it is really wrong that someone got this prototype out of Apple in the first place?

If they get to here they get also to MS, Google, Dell and HP etc. Someone needs to go to jail.
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post #29 of 83
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Shame about mini-displayPort. I wish they'd get over it.

Yeah, I really hate how every Mac model being sold today has the _same_ display connector. Makes it so much harder to have the wrong adapter with you - and you end up having to actually _give_ your presentation. They could at least invent a Micro Display Port in order to fill more space at Apple Stores with video adapters.
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Am I the only one that thinks it is really wrong that someone got this prototype out of Apple in the first place?

The pictures look distorted so likely taken from a very small hidden camera. The blue worktop is probably inside their labs. Someone took similar photos of the iPad before it was released.

I don't think the battery will be shaped like this in the end, it's more likely to be a single battery shaped specifically for the Air.

It would be good for a similar thing to happen to the Macbook just with 2 x USB 3 on both sides and for the time being 2 drives bays for hard drives/SSD and 2 RAM slots.
post #31 of 83
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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post

The pictures look distorted so likely taken from a very small hidden camera. The blue worktop is probably inside their labs. Someone took similar photos of the iPad before it was released.

I don't think the battery will be shaped like this in the end, it's more likely to be a single battery shaped specifically for the Air.

It would be good for a similar thing to happen to the Macbook just with 2 x USB 3 on both sides and for the time being 2 drives bays for hard drives/SSD and 2 RAM slots.

If so the person who took them should be in jail. I hope Apple have ways to track him / her down. Meanwhile they really need to tighten security.
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post #32 of 83
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Originally Posted by PXT View Post

Shame about mini-displayPort. I wish they'd get over it.

Do elaborate, please enlighten as to what needs getting over mate ?
post #33 of 83
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Originally Posted by Joe hs View Post

display out at 1600p, physically smaller connecter than HDMI, carries 2.1 audio, other manufacturers including Sony, lenovo and HP use it; what are they meant to be "getting over"?

Does it only carry 2.1 audio?
post #34 of 83
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Pictures of a possible MacBook Air prototype with no hard drive and extra battery space have surfaced ahead of Apple's Oct. 20 "Back to the Mac" event.

The photos, obtained by Engadget from an anonymous source, show a unibody frame that appears to be for a 13.3-inch laptop computer, which could possibly be an early prototype of an upcoming revision to the MacBook Air. The computer appears to have USB plugs on both the left and right sides, Mini DisplayPort and an SD card reader.

Engadget's source claims the rest of the machine is also unibody, including the "large single mouse button," but the screen will keep the current MacBook Air style, instead of the "edge-to-edge glass with black edges" that current MacBook Pro models have.

The laptop allegedly runs the same 1.86 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo as the current MacBook Air, further evidence that the photos are of an early prototype. Engadget's source claims "the model dates back to at least April."

The unverified photos represent "just one SKU," so Apple may have something else in store as well, wrote author Paul Miller.

AppleInsider confirmed Friday through several independent sources that Apple will release a smaller 11.6-inch MacBook Air next Wednesday at the company's "Back to the Mac" special event.

Another source familiar with the matter believes the smaller form factor will forgo conventional hard-disk drive (HDD) or solid state drive (SSD) storage options in favor of an "SSD Card" that resembles a stick of RAM, although AppleInsider is unable to confirm this detail.

Earlier this month, AppleInsider reported that supplies of the two existing 13.3-inch MacBook Airs had dried up throughout the company's indirect sales channels, suggesting that a complete overhaul to the line was imminent.





We shall see on wednesday what transpires with the mac book air.
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Does it only carry 2.1 audio?

Your right, my mistake- it does do 5.1
post #36 of 83
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Only 2 gigs of RAM? Disappointing.

First of all, 640 K should be enough for everybody.

Secondly, seriously, where the f*** do you guys come from? It's 2010 already, haven't you learned that Macs aren't about the greatest on paper specs and useless features?

Do you even know what a Macbook Air is supposed to be used for? You won't be doing 3D with it, nor edit HD movies, nor play the latest games, etc. It's not to be used as a node for a supercluster doing DNA modelling.

So, what good exactly would more than 2GB of RAM --more would have been 4GB in all probability-- would do? Get you 10% faster, if that?

Have you noticed the SSD part, which eliminates most of the I/O latency for an even better speedup?
post #37 of 83
The pic looks legit.

C2D and 2GB RAM is a disappointment but I don’t know of many MBA owners that care about that. They care about the device functioning and no matter what CPU speed or amount of RAM you have if run out of power you can’t work, so I hope those 4 different cells are sufficient to push past the MacBook in terms of duration.

Looks like mDP and USB, and MagSafe and USB on each side, but I would think there would at least be a headphone/mic jack and SD card slot.

Hopefully they finally put the OS restore disc on an SD card. However, if storage is soldered then they could move to an iDevice like solution for restoring the OS.
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post #38 of 83
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Originally Posted by Chilli View Post

New Macbook Air 2010 : 13-inch, OSX 10.7
New Macbook Touch : 11.6-inch, OSX 10.7 + touch screen and IOS layer

No.

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Shame about mini-displayPort. I wish they'd get over it.

Heaven forbid they use a port designed for a computer on their computers.

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Secondly, seriously, where the f*** do you guys come from? It's 2010 already, haven't you learned that Macs aren't about the greatest on paper specs and useless features?

Tell me, exactly, why you believe RAM to be a useless feature.

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post #39 of 83
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Heaven forbid they use a port designed for a computer on their computers.

Sarcasm, right?
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post #40 of 83
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the 2 gig ram limit is what stopped me from purchasing the first Airs. Hope they figure this out.

Why? What do you think you will need more ram for? I have used the air and it runs very well.
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