Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
Mmm... Where do Windows and Mac OS X updates come from-- Don't you download them from another computer on a network?
Or whenever Apple releases a major update; but I wasn't talking about the internet or the servers which support it -- I meant that you need a PC at home to be able to update your device. When you can own an iPad without owning anything else, then it's a PC. And saying that, I would say the iPad is really really close.
As an iOS developer, I have the 4.2 beta installed on our iPads. You can print quite nicely to a printer attached to a router (AirPort Extreme) or a computer.
Cool -- using Bonjour I assume? So limited to having a Mac, PC or Bonjour-capable deivce on your network to print. That's **better**, but not perfect unless non-Apple companies start using Bonjour.
<snip>You can run Apache Server on any iPhone or iPad Touch... Along with PSP and SQLlite! You can run uLinux on a 30 GB ca 2004 iPod.
I can also run ucLinux on my microwave -- that doesn't make it a PC. The ability to hack something, to reprogram something, is by its very nature, changing the nature of the device, as any computerized device is defined by its software. So, it then stops being device-xyz and becomes a "PC". An AppleTV, XBox or Commodore 30-in-1 Direct to TV are all examples of NON-PCs, built on the same hardware as a PC, that can, with some effort, be made into PCs. So, for a select few, the iPhone and iPad can both become full PCs; not everyone either has the skill nor desire to jail break their Apple devices.
I don't mean to focus on you, because I agree with most of what you say.
I suspect you have more that one personal computer-- likely, at least 1 desktop, and at least 1 Laptop. Why both? You might answer: Duh... portability! What do you sacrifice for that portability: Speed, CPU power, GPU power, RAM, HDD capacity, I/O devices (scanners, midis, etc), Printers...
Nope -- I just have the one laptop -- and I spent a small fortune because I wanted both. My laptop is probably more powerful than most people's desktops. This beast has a quad-core i7 (720QM) and Radeon HD 5870, with 8GB of RAM, expandable to 16GB, two 500GB drives, built-in 1920x1080 display with an HDMI connection to a 2048x1152 display. I don't believe in compromising -- I have enough money to get what I need all-in-one. I do own an iPhone though -- but I don't call it my PC either.
The point is that a lot of us have more than 1 computer that we have selected to satisfy our needs at performing various tasks in various situations. The fact that an iPad won't satisfy any of your needs for a personal computer, doesn't mean that it won't satisfy any of my needs... and vice versa. My needs are my needs -- it would be presumptuous of me to assume that they are your needs... and vice versa.
But that's not what a PC is defined as -- you don't get to change the definition of the word to suit you. The essence of a PC is that it's general purpose, that you can do with it, whether you want to or not, anything that anyone else could do with whatever we call a "PC". Not all PCs live up to this ideal, and many fall short in one aspect or another -- but that's okay. The term itself is generalized and very fuzzy, but at some point, some thing is no longer a PC, and is a "game console" or a "PVR" or a "microwave oven".
Is the iPad a PC? Can you run LAMP on it without hacking it? Then I would say, that out-of-the-box, no, the iPad is not a PC, it is not inteded to be a PC, it is not marketed as a PC, and by having the AppStore, Apple is preventing it from becoming a PC, and therefore usurping their PC line of products known as Macs. Can you make it a PC -- sure, but taken to it's extreme so is a pile of sand and oil.