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Source: Leaked MacBook Air photo is of new 11.6-inch model

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An image that leaked late last week showing an unreleased base component of an Apple notebook design is believed to be of the company's forthcoming 11.6-inch MacBook Air, rather than the larger model, AppleInsider has been told.

The image that appeared on Engadget was said to be of a new 13-inch MacBook Air by the source that submitted. However, a person familiar with both new MacBook Air models -- Apple is said to be keeping the 13-inch in its portfolio -- tells AppleInsider that the unit in the photo more closely resembles the 11.6 model, which is code-named K18.

According to this person, the unit in the photo is indeed an earlier prototype, as the model Apple plans to release includes changes to the componentry, such as the internal batteries. However, the 13.3-inch model's internals are somewhat more distinguishable due to the added real-estate in its chassis, which don't match up with the photo, this person suggested.

A recent analysis of the photo conducted over the weekend also appears to corroborate this claim. While the analysis doesn't provide conclusive evidence that the model in the photo is of an enclosure suited for an 11.6-inch screen, it does show device to resemble a notebook closer to 10 inches than 13 inches.



Apple will introduce the new MacBook Airs on Wednesday at its Back to the Mac event, which is also expected to include some news on the next-generation Mac OS X operating system: 10.7 Lion.

The software has been making the rounds inside Apple under the internal code-name "Barolo" -- coined after the prestigious Italian wines from the Piedmont region -- since early 2010. It's expected to include at least one revolutionary new feature, in addition iOS device tie-ins such as a FaceTime framework.

For more on AppleInsider's breaking reports on the new MacBook Airs, please see:

Sources: Apple to unveil revamped 11.6-inch MacBook Air next week
More details surface on Apple's next-generation MacBook Airs
Apple's MacBook Air supply dries up as rumors of new 11.6-inch model persist
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Screen sizes are measured diagonally so an 11.6" screen does jibe with a MacBook that is 10" wide.
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So, we will get a Apple Netbook?

Sorry, sorry, I shouldn't mention the "N" word here
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This has a full notebook class processor. A sub-notebook, or "ultra portable". Netbooks have weaker processors. The size alone isn't enough to classify it as a netbook.
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So, we will get a Apple Netbook?

Sorry, sorry, I shouldn't mention the "N" word here

It’ll be the first netbook that doesn’t suck.

Apple has a habit of making things great. Look at the MP3 player, smartphone, and tablet computer, and you’ll understand what I mean.
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These rumors of a new, smaller, faster MacBook Air is gaining my interest back into this machine. The iPad looks great and all, but running a small business it would be ideal to have a MacBook Air for what I do instead of the basic iPad. The Mac Pro that I have for business and a MacBook Air for portable use would be amazing if the features and price are right. The smaller form factor is sounding great too. I hope this Back to the Mac event is great! It's about time we get back to Mac topics.

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post #7 of 56
It seems as if connected by the bottom side, and not by any the borders, just look closer... is it possible?... Maybe I'm just freaking out
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It will be interesting to hear Jobs explain the lack of a full size keyboard on the 11".
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It will be interesting to hear Jobs explain the lack of a full size keyboard on the 11".

Apple is introducing a new feature... as you get closer to this MBA your hands begin to shrink. Magic!
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Apple is not switching to Intel.

Apple is not making a phone.

Apple is not making a tablet.

Apple is not entering the ad market.

...

Apple is not making a netbook.







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It will be interesting to hear Jobs explain the lack of a full size keyboard on the 11".

A keyboard with the dimensions of the Apple Wireless keyboard would fit on a 11.6" notebook so he won't have to.
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It will be interesting to hear Jobs explain the lack of a full size keyboard on the 11".

He won't necessarily have to. If they screen has a 16:9 aspect ratio and not the current 16:10, the new MBA would not be much less wide than the current one. If Apple then went ahead a cut some off some of the unused margin on both sides of the keyboard and let the bottom part essentially look like the wireless keyboard, there would be enough space for a full-sized keyboard.
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"It's expected to include at least one revolutionary new feature...."

It will blend?
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Originally Posted by QuadESL63 View Post

So, we will get a Apple Netbook?

Sorry, sorry, I shouldn't mention the "N" word here

Steve Jobs provided several reasons why he felt netbooks sucked:

1) They are underpowered (i.e. use Atom processors)
2) The screens are of terrible quality
3) They use cramped/undersized keyboards

An 11.6" Air would be none of those things:

1) It won't use an Atom processor (it will likely be Core2 duo or an AMD equivalent to an i3/i5 to get around the integrated graphics issue)
2) Apple generally uses some pretty good displays
3) A full size keyboard fits in a 16:9 11.6" laptop (easily once you add space for the bezel)

In short an 11.6" MBA would not be a netbook. It would be an ultraportable, which is what the current Air is as well.
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Apple is not switching to Intel.
Apple is not making a phone.
Apple is not making a tablet.
Apple is not entering the ad market.
...

Apple is not making a netbook.


Um, your point (other than snarkieness)?
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Originally Posted by cmf2 View Post

A keyboard with the dimensions of the Apple Wireless keyboard would fit on a 11.6" notebook so he won't have to.

This is not true. The 11.5" is diagonal, meaning the width would be more like 9" or 9.5". The current Wireless keyboard is about 11" wide.

I would bet Steve will reference how it isn't any smaller than using the iPad as his excuse.
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It will be interesting to hear Jobs explain the lack of a full size keyboard on the 11".

My 13.3" MacBook Pro (at work, hurrah!) has an inch on either side of the keyboard. The 11.6" version will have a full size keyboard, no problem, there just won't be the same gap at the sides.

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This is not true. The 11.5" is diagonal, the width would be more like 9" or 9.5". The current Wireless keyboard is about 11" wide.

Correct.
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It will be interesting to hear Jobs explain the lack of a full size keyboard on the 11".

The MacBook I have here contains a 10.75" wide keyboard (approximately).

The new enclosure will either fit snugly or the keyboard will be ever so slightly smaller (which I doubt).

My main concern is the screen...will it be glossy and therefore unusable outdoors? This is one area that I am not optimistic about.
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Add to that 9" the size of the bezel, whatever size they make it. The current Air's screen bezel is pretty big.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

This is not true. The 11.5" is diagonal, meaning the width would be more like 9" or 9.5". The current Wireless keyboard is about 11" wide.

I would bet Steve will reference how it isn't any smaller than using the iPad as his excuse.

Have a look the width of most notebooks with a 16:9 11,6" screen.... 11"!
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Apple has made a full size keyboard in a laptop with a smaller footprint before, the Powerbook G4 12 inch. Odds are, the new rumored 11.6 inch Air will look similar around the keyboard, with the newer chicklet design of course.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

This is not true. The 11.5" is diagonal, meaning the width would be more like 9" or 9.5". The current Wireless keyboard is about 11" wide.

I would bet Steve will reference how it isn't any smaller than using the iPad as his excuse.

Not only do I disagree with your
"loose" geometry, I have to believe that Steve Jobs gave the directive:

"Engineer it as small as possible, while still providing a Full Size keyboard !!! "

I just measured my Apple Wireless Keyboard, from edge to edge of the actual keys. It's 10.75 inches wide AND the current dimensions of the Macbook Air are 12.8 inches wide.

If you lopped off an inch on each side, The NEW Air could still support a full size keyboard.

THIS is what you will see on Wednesday. !!!

ADDED: Wow, and lookey here ...at the picture above.
BINGO !!!
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

This is not true. The 11.5" is diagonal, meaning the width would be more like 9" or 9.5". The current Wireless keyboard is about 11" wide.

I would bet Steve will reference how it isn't any smaller than using the iPad as his excuse.

Sorry, but you forgot that screens have bezels.

A 16:9 screen would have a width of 10.1 inches. Add 0.5 inches to each side for the bezel and you are at 11.1 inches and the keyboard fits.

A 16:10 screen would have a width of 9.8 inches. Add 0.5 inches to each side for the bezel and you are at 10.8 inches and it would be close, but they could probably fit it in.
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The new MacBook Air is great news and much anticipated.

I hope it will be a MacBook Pro without the DVD drive more than a Netbook. (Apple's Netbook is the iPad.) If early specs are right, then Apple has listened to feedback very well:

- More ports, better connectivity
- Longer battery life
- Larger hard drives plus SSD
- More powerful processors
- Lighter weight

They've taken their time with this upgrade, so it isn't just a refresh (obviously). A lot of people thought this machine was defunct in a world ruled by the IPad. Clearly, it isn't.

For me, one major test will be whether this machine is capable of being your only computer. Can't wait to see it in the flesh (metal).
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Originally Posted by QuadESL63 View Post

So, we will get a Apple Netbook?

Sorry, sorry, I shouldn't mention the "N" word here

wouldn't call it a netbook since it doesn't use one of those under powered Atom CPU.

Other than the screen size, it is a full-fledged laptop computer.
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Unfortunately, Apple is going to make this way too expensive.

They don't want to cannibalize MacBook or iPad sales. It'll be a niche latte-sipping iLife trendy BS POS, not a practical tool like the HP Mini.

Meanwhile there are plenty of netbooks with good screens and nice keyboards you can easily hackintosh
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Originally Posted by QuadESL63 View Post

So, we will get a Apple Netbook?

Sorry, sorry, I shouldn't mention the "N" word here

Long ago, and I mean in the 1990s, there was a category of laptops that were either called "ultra-portables" or sometimes "sub-notebook". They were all distinguished by their design, which put a priority on weight savings and portability. Some did not have full-sized keyboards. Others were thin and ditched optical drives, spare battery bays. And they were often expensive. I used to own a number of Toshiba, Sony & IBM Thinkpads that fell into these categories.

How is that different from a netbook? Netbooks are cheap, dirt cheap laptops. Netbooks aren't about size: they're about price. The original Asus didn't even have Windows (it used Linux) to save money. That is not the mission of the MacBook Air.

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Since when does the word netbook describe nothing except a computer under 12"?

Netbook is an entire category of device with several common attributes.. all of which are compromise and limitation: screen, processor, graphics, battery, keyboard. All funked.

This will be another Macbook. But smaller.
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A recent analysis of the photo conducted over the weekend also appears to corroborate this claim.

A USB socket is 13mm wide not 12mm (see port on the wired keyboard) so the back dimension is 284mm = 11.2". The side is 8.1" so the diagonal size is 13.8". Subtract 1/4" bezel from each corner and you get a 13.3" diagonal screen. You can see this by matching up the sockets on an 11.6" netbook:



and matching the slot for opening the lid between the old and new ones:



IMO there is no 11.6" MBA and never will be. The above picture clearly shows a 13.3" laptop and those components would not fit into an 11.6" machine. The only way they could build an 11" model would be to remove the GPU and use an i-series chip and (assuming they use 4gbit RAM chips) half the number of the chips to reach 2GB RAM.

But there would be no benefit in making an 11.6" machine. It won't be cheaper because it uses the same components as the 13" one.
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Unfortunately, Apple is going to make this way too expensive.

They don't want to cannibalize MacBook or iPad sales. It'll be a niche latte-sipping iLife trendy BS POS, not a practical tool like the HP Mini.

Meanwhile there are plenty of netbooks with good screens and nice keyboards you can easily hackintosh

You mean the one running an atom processor?
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Is it just me or do the batteries look like they have just been thrown in there? I would think that Apple would have them all the same width apart and straight. I can see them being offset but not all higgledy-piggledy looking!

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If this is indeed a 11.6" notebook; the Bluetooth keyboard is about 11.1" wide. The previous MBA had a bezel of about .84" on each side of the screen. If the 11.6" screen has a similar size bezel, it would mean the screen (at 16x10 ratio) is roughly 9.8" wide by 6.2" tall, add .84" on both sides and you get about 11.48" total width. That would preserve the width of the existing Bluetooth keyboard and make perfect sense.

If an 11.6" MBA is in the works for release, I'd love to see some iOS cross-over. I'm not sure if touch screen interface would make sense in a notebook, but we have seen rumors of Apple experimenting with touch UI in OS X. Even if it just has iOS app support i'd be happy. As in previous AI posts, I'd really like to see this 11.6" device be priced around $899 (since the posts claim that the price will be 'significantly cheaper' than the current MBA). If it were more expensive than the current Plastic Macbook, I think that it will still deter many people from purchase. But if it is around a Grand (i.e. $999 or $1099), by nature, there will be a LOT of early adopters and it may be a mute point.
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This is not true. The 11.5" is diagonal, meaning the width would be more like 9" or 9.5". The current Wireless keyboard is about 11" wide.

I would bet Steve will reference how it isn't any smaller than using the iPad as his excuse.
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Is it just me or do the batteries look like they have just been thrown in there? I would think that Apple would have them all the same width apart and straight. I can see them being offset but not all higgledy-piggledy looking!

Again, the timeframe of this photo would be of an early prototype (maybe the EVT stage) which is probably using off-the-shelf batteries. It would be reasonable to expect Apple to have a custom battery molded to the available space for the final production design.
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You mean the one running an atom processor?

Yeah it's like all the haters suddenly went full retard.

this is just a notebook with the same internals, but smaller thinner.
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Again, the timeframe of this photo would be of an early prototype (maybe the EVT stage) which is probably using off-the-shelf batteries. It would be reasonable to expect Apple to have a custom battery molded to the available space for the final production design.

Got it, thanks!
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Apple has made a full size keyboard in a laptop with a smaller footprint before, the Powerbook G4 12 inch. Odds are, the new rumored 11.6 inch Air will look similar around the keyboard, with the newer chicklet design of course.

There's probably no better mac apple has created than this one. I got mine used a few years ago, and I am so sad it's nearing eol for me. I was about to buy an air, literally stopped in the last minute, a week ago, so I hope this upgrade is worthwhile.

Please apple make it right this time.
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"Micro Displayport"? Yet another new display connector from Apple?
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"Micro Displayport"? Yet another new display connector from Apple?

Just a typo.
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If they are doing what I think they're doing, which is loading the OS onto this SSD, then its a very smart idea.
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