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The Samsung Galaxy Tab and Apple iPad will go head-to-head in Verizon stores in the U.S. starting Nov. 11, when Samsung's 7-inch tablet goes on sale for $600.

Verizon announced on Wednesday that it will sell Samsung's Android-based tablet for $599.99 just a few weeks after the nation's largest wireless carrier begins selling Apple's iPad. The two touchscreen tablets will compete on the same carrier and in the same stores.

Samsung's tablet will sell for $30 less than a 16GB iPad with 3G, though Apple's device has a larger, 9.7-inch screen. In Verizon stores, the iPad will be bundled with a 3G MiFi wireless hotspot at a cost of $629.99, and at AT&T, the iPad has integrated 3G.

But Apple still maintains has a price advantage at the entry level -- the 16GB, 9.7-inch Wi-Fi iPad lacking built-in 3G connectivity is just $499.

"This is an incredible time in mobile technology, and as a company we're excited to add the Samsung Galaxy Tab to our portfolio," said Marni Walden, vice president and chief marketing officer for Verizon Wireless. "The Samsung Galaxy Tab brings together the reliability of Verizon Wireless' 3G network and the power of Android 2.2 to deliver on our promise of providing consumers and business customers with a host of options to help manage their lives."

In September, Samsung announced the Galaxy Tab would be available on all four major U.S. wireless carriers. At the time, no prices or dates were given.

The device maker also plans to offer a Wi-Fi-only version of the Galaxy Tab, but has not announced a release date. The iPad sold through Verizon, bundled with a MiFi will be Wi-Fi-only.



The Galaxy Tab includes support for Adobe Flash 10.1 and a 1GHz Cortex A8 Hummingbird Application processor. Verizon also touted the device's ability to access V CAST Music and V CAST Song ID, VZ Navigator, Slacker Radio, Kindle for Android, Blockbuster On Demand presented by V CAST Video, and the exclusive golf game, "Let's Golf."

Like with the iPad and MiFi combo, Verizon will offer data plans for the Galaxy Tab starting at $20 for 1GB.

Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs caused a stir earlier this week when he said devices like the Galaxy Tab with a 7-inch display would be inferior to the iPad due to the smaller screen real estate. Jobs said a 7-inch screen was "meaningless" unless the device shipped with "sandpaper so that the user can sand down their fingers to about one quarter of their present size."

Research in Motion, which plans to release its own 7-inch tablet, the PlayBook, next year, fired back, saying that any issues with a smaller display exist only inside of "Apple's distortion field." RIM co-CEO Jim Balsillie said he thinks customers are "getting tired of being told what to think by Apple."

Jobs also took another shot at tablets like the Samsung Galaxy Tab running Android 2.2, the latest update to Google's mobile operating system. Jobs argued that unlike iOS, which was rebuilt to accommodate the iPad, Android 2.2 is being shoehorned into tablet devices.

"Nearly all of these tablets use Android. But even Google is saying don't use Froyo [the current release of Android OS], and instead to wait to use next years' version," Jobs said. "What does it mean when a software maker says not to use their release and you use it anyway?"
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Congratulations Samsung for pricing yourself out. And great job letting Verizon load their crapware in this thing preinstalled and probably can't be deleted.

Are there even tablet optimized apps for Android?
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If this kicks off the vaunted "tsunami of tablets" that we've been repeatedly promised, it appears we're still at low tide.
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one word - HAHAHAH
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Congratulations Samsung for pricing yourself out. And great job letting Verizon load their crapware in this thing preinstalled and probably can't be deleted.

exactly. And what exactly did Samsung GAIN by letting verizon butcher this thing? I mean, there's no subsidy offered. Distribution? Couldn't Sammy muscle this into Best Buy or Target as-is, without the crapware?
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The only thing I can think is that by letting Verizon sell it, Verizon will help advertise it. Also they need a carrier to supply 3g and they probably don't have a slick built in way to sign up for such services and therefore need to have the carriers sell it.
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Also as one poster mentioned there is not a app store with optimized apps therefore all the verizon crapware could be seen as a plus since it they might be the only apps available at the moment. All this for $600, and people have the nerve to say anything about the ipad
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Hey, but it has Flash 10.1 Beta and it’s “open”. So “open” that vendors and carriers can lock it down tighter than Fort Knox.
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post #9 of 75
Plus a screen that is only 45% the size of the iPad screen!
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$600!!

Oh... okay...
Hmmmmmm...
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post #11 of 75
I always gauge the market strength of smartphones by observing how often the carriers offer two-for-one or similar deals. Ever see that for the iPhone? Nope. Now how about the Droids on Verizon?

It'll be interesting to see what happens with these tablets.
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This looks like a big fail, but I still like the idea of a 'tween' size. I wish Steve felt the same. I'd love to see a 5" iPod Touch and/or a 7" iPad.

I can't see anyone but a true Android geek choosing this over the iPad.
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I think a big bright side to Verizon offering the iPad and now the Galaxy Tab with a non-contract data plan is we are seeing a trend - both major carriers have dropped their 2-year contract requirement on tablet data plans.
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This looks like a big fail, but I still like the idea of a 'tween' size. I wish Steve felt the same. I'd love to see a 5" iPod Touch and/or a 7" iPad.

I can't see anyone but a true Android geek choosing this over the iPad.

He might. His comment was oddly specific about the size of the device when usually his comments are against how others are doing it, but I can see Apple eventually coming out with a 7-ish iPad once they solidified their 10 model in the market.

Its just too soon to release another model so close to the original iPad launch. Its only been 6 months, after all. Theyd have to have a new UI, new SDK and apps for this device. Its not feasible, unless for some reason Apple cant get their hands on 10 iPad display panels but can get their hands on a mess of 7 panels, but I doubt that is an issue.

Note: Even if they use the same aspect ratio and resolution of the current iPad theyd still need a new UI and SDK for this new display I/O size.
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post #15 of 75
Is it just me or is that refresh button on the weather/clock completely unnecessary? Just have it check every 30 minutes or so and get rid of it.
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I carry my iPhone in my pocket. The reported dimensions of the Samsung tablet are such that I cannot carry it in my pocket. So, if I have to carry a tablet device in my backpack or shoulder-bag, I'd rather have an iPad for the larger screen. I don't see any advantages of the Samsung...

Plus, I just took a look at the Verizon Media Store for their app selection...clearly, it is a work in progress...but, why would I buy a device and have to wait for apps that I am currently using on my iPhone to be developed for Verizon, or that probably may never be developed ?
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...Theyd have to have a new UI, new SDK and apps for this... new display I/O size.

Why does a diff size iPad require all that extra work, but OSX apps work on 13, 15 and 17-inch MBs and external monitors of many diff sizes? Why isn't that display flexibility built into iOS?
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when the Galaxy Tab is available in Canada at a retail store i hope i'll have a chance to try it out. admittedly, i don't know much about the device so actually using it for awhile will be very helpful.
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Why does a diff size iPad require all that extra work, but OSX apps work on 13, 15 and 17-inch MBs and external monitors of many diff sizes? Why isn't that display flexibility built into iOS?

One uses windowed apps the other uses the entire display for an app.
One uses a mouse point and the other uses phalanges as the graphical input.
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post #20 of 75
And people complain about the so-called "Apple Tax"

How can they justify this pricing for a smaller display and an OS that Google says isn't ready for a tablet device?

I read an article recently that stated "the lack of a Verizon iPhone is the only reason the average consumer knows what a Droid is".

Having the iPad and the Galaxy in the same store should send this device straight to the clearance rack next to the Kin.
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post #21 of 75
Think on Nov. 11 I'll have to trot down to the local Verizon store to try one out. Would they be offended if I bring along my iPad?

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post #22 of 75
Boy, competitors have really struggled with the pricing. I knew they'd be crap, though I hope there'd be more that aren't... But never saw the price issue being so big. Over half a year since the iPad was launched and this is what is starting to emerge... Smaller and similarly priced or more expensive.
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BTW how much RAM does it have? People have bashed the iPad senseless(ly) over its 256MB
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err...
Frogtardies. And I mean you electronics makers.
We started reading books centuries ago. And yes, we've got really used to things of ``book size' ', which is most often being somewhat around 8½" x 5½". And Apple did their best to deliver us the screen of the iPad of approximately that size.
The fact that you can't afford manufacturing of good 9-10" screens does not necessarily alter the vector of human's evolution...

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This looks like a big fail, but I still like the idea of a 'tween' size. I wish Steve felt the same. I'd love to see a 5" iPod Touch and/or a 7" iPad.

I can't see anyone but a true Android geek choosing this over the iPad.

i agree. steve is right about this samsung android tab being a failure but wrong about 7" ipad. the first decent 7" android 3 or 4 based tab (if one ever happens) i will buy.
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btw how much ram does it have? People have bashed the ipad senseless(ly) over its 256mb

512..
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He might. His comment was oddly specific about the size of the device when usually his comments are against how others are doing it, but I can see Apple eventually coming out with a 7-ish iPad once they solidified their 10 model in the market.

Its just too soon to release another model so close to the original iPad launch. Its only been 6 months, after all. Theyd have to have a new UI, new SDK and apps for this device. Its not feasible, unless for some reason Apple cant get their hands on 10 iPad display panels but can get their hands on a mess of 7 panels, but I doubt that is an issue.

Note: Even if they use the same aspect ratio and resolution of the current iPad theyd still need a new UI and SDK for this new display I/O size.

I was thinking the same thing... "A 7" tablet is too small, but look at this great 8" iPad we have for you!"

And as much as I would like a smaller iPad, I also agree that it's too soon. That's just not Apple's style. They will milk the current version for all it's worth. They will wait until people who want a smaller iPad finally break down and buy the larger version. Then they will release a smaller version and many of those same people will go by it to replace their "too big" iPads. Why sell them one when you can sell them two!

I do think SJ's reasons against a smaller iPad were more about marketing the current version than about any significant tech or usability issues. More about convincing people to go out and buy the current offering instead of delaying their purchase. Yes, there are issues to sort out, but nothing Apple couldn't easily handle if they choose to.
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I always gauge the market strength of smartphones by observing how often the carriers offer two-for-one or similar deals. Ever see that for the iPhone? Nope. Now how about the Droids on Verizon?

Do you really think Jobs/Apple would allow a 2-for-1 deal with the iPhone even if AT&T were willing to cover Apple's lost profit? No.

Cell carriers don't care about making a profit off of the phone. The contract (usually 2 years) is the important part. And a 2-for-1 deal gets them two contracts, or at least one contract with a higher monthly fee than they otherwise would have gotten.
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err...
Frogtardies. And I mean you electronics makers.
We started reading books centuries ago. And yes, we've got really used to things of ``book size' ', which is most often being somewhat around 8½" x 5½". And Apple did their best to deliver us the screen of the iPad of approximately that size.
The fact that you can't afford manufacturing of good 9-10" screens does not necessarily alter the vector of human's evolution...

the problem isn't the size. steve is wrong about people wanting a 7" tablet. the problem is android 2.2 is awful for a tab and even google says so. and also samsung is stupid if they think they can get apple like prices for their hardware. not in the same category as apple.
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I was thinking the same thing... "A 7" tablet is too small, but look at this great 8" iPad we have for you!"

And as much as I would like a smaller iPad, I also agree that it's too soon. That's just not Apple's style. They will milk the current version for all it's worth. They will wait until people who want a smaller iPad finally break down and buy the larger version. Then they will release a smaller version and many of those same people will go by it to replace their "too big" iPads. Why sell them one when you can sell them two!

I do think SJ's reasons against a smaller iPad were more about marketing the current version than about any significant tech or usability issues. More about convincing people to go out and buy the current offering instead of delaying their purchase. Yes, there are issues to sort out, but nothing Apple couldn't easily handle if they choose to.

ha ha. so true. jobs knows that there is no decent competition to the ipad out yet (or maybe ever)
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I carry my iPhone in my pocket. The reported dimensions of the Samsung tablet are such that I cannot carry it in my pocket.

Thats why you need this Samsung Tab accessory.

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post #32 of 75
I'm looking forward to the 12 and 18 inch iPads.
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While you can't compare Apples (iPad) to Oranges (Galaxy Tab) being compared to watermelons (iPhone) and squash (Android brand whatever phone), it will still be interesting to see how well the iPad launch on Verizon Oct. 28th versus the Galaxy Tab launch on Nov. 11th. It's always interesting to see a heads up match so to speak.

Can't wait for the possible interesting stories that will be posted and commented on mid-late Nov or after Christmas, at least.

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This looks like a big fail, but I still like the idea of a 'tween' size. I wish Steve felt the same. I'd love to see a 5" iPod Touch and/or a 7" iPad.

I can't see anyone but a true Android geek choosing this over the iPad.

I would like to see a 7" iPad and decide for myself. I'm sure Steve has and decided for all of us. I don't necessarily intend to be pissy about it. Just saying, I'm sure there were multiple prototypes. And I wouldn't be surprised if we did see a different size in a couple of years.

I just don't get why Verizon/Samsung would trot this announcement out right now. This is a well-worn path that others have chosen. You get geek-chatter about it for a few hours, then the mainstream media talks about nothing but the Apple announcements. I just don't see how this gets any traction whatsoever.
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err...
Frogtardies. And I mean you electronics makers.
We started reading books centuries ago. And yes, we've got really used to things of ``book size' ', which is most often being somewhat around 8½" x 5½". And Apple did their best to deliver us the screen of the iPad of approximately that size.
The fact that you can't afford manufacturing of good 9-10" screens does not necessarily alter the vector of human's evolution...

LOL Android geeks are off the main stream of human evolution.

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512..

Interesting...

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Thats why you need this Samsung Tab accessory.


Quiet you, I had to wear those at university labs for my Biology major. Quite comfortable actually, kind of a shorter, thinner bath robe.
post #36 of 75
How do I put this? Hmm. Oh, yes.

STEVE IS RIGHT


That is all.
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post #37 of 75
You can't compete with Apple by offering less for more money.

7" display is less.
Android 2.2 is less, but maybe Android 3 will make up for it, IF the upgrade is made available
Is it an IPS display, or a TN display?

What does it have more of? More RAM probably - 512MB I expect. It's hardly holding the iPad back at the moment though. Multitasking - will be in iOS 4.2.

And I'm speaking as an owner of an Android based phone. It certainly ain't bad.
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one word - HAHAHAH

I was around here when people were posting hahahaha when android phones were coming out.

I wouldn't laugh too hard now that androids are outselling iphones. Oh I know I'll get the tired you can't compare multiple handsets blah blah apple doesn't care about marketshare yadda yadda, but the point is, this whole war has barely even begun.
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post #39 of 75
I can't wait.

If it is just to shut up the trolls here. Now is their chance to prove their admiration for their Android and 7" tablets, i.e., by putting their mouth where their money is.

BTW, my wife asked me what was an android?

When I told her that it was an automaton that resembles a human being, she responded quite clearly, "Man or woman?"

And before I could respond she turned and started to leave the room, but not with injecting a sneering, "Idiots!"

To which I quickly countered, "It could be a woman."

To which she re-countered, "Invented by a man?! Like I said…" But this time I am sure she added, "Assholes."
post #40 of 75
So I can watch Flash advertisements on it.
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