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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

No. Do it right or don't bother. Settings are what makes things confusing.

LOL, I guess you are a dogmatic mood tonight! Ireland's way or the highway! To hell with anyone else's opinions or desires.

TG FCPro has lots of user settings, they save me hours as i can work they way i like to.

No discussion possible with that attitude. I'll be off to the pub
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post #82 of 168
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

I agree about the app store for the Mac being a great idea. I just don't like the UI alterations to hobble the Mac with a more iOS looking interface. Makes no sense for professionals and experienced Mac users, but it will make the noobs more comfortable. Getting a bad feeling with this looming update.

i think what they are trying to do is bring iOS features on the mac but the mac UI will still be there... for example you have to launch the Launchpad unlike in iphone which is the only interface available... the people who don't like iOS interface can still use the mac one as dock is still available there...

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post #83 of 168
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Originally Posted by iTuomas View Post

This sounds great, but I do have a question. I like Exposé the way it is right now, but how can I avoid using the Mission Control mess since in Lion Exposé basically IS the Mission Control?

Well first of all we don't know that Expose has been completely removed in place of Mission Control. All we know is Mission Control will be a new feature of Lion. As it is now in Snow Leopard, I don't have to invoke Spaces, Dashboard, or even Expose if I don't need to. So, completely removing them isn't necessary to add a new all inclusive feature. These features may in fact still be separate, but used in conjunction when Mission Control is invoked. Just like with Expose now; It works on its own, and it also works when Spaces is invoked.
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post #84 of 168
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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

LOL, I guess you are a dogmatic mood tonight! Ireland's way or the highway!

The dock is a launcher, Launchpad is a launcher. Kill one of them and quit fucking around. Apple normally have the balls, but this time they didn't.
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post #85 of 168
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Originally Posted by cutykamu View Post

i think what they are trying to do is bring iOS features on the mac but the mac UI will still be there... for example you have to launch the Launchpad unlike in iphone which is the only interface available... the people who don't like iOS interface can still use the mac one as dock is still available there...

Exactly, and that is the mistake. They should have taken more big and bold risks and cleaned the whole thing up more in the process. Installing apps and using them is now simpler than ever, yet using the computer is more confusing. They could have overhauled the whole thing and thought of a cool replacement for the dock. Heck - they could have made Launchpad the default view of the OS in general, somehow.

They will now have this thing called App Store (for Mac). When you download something from App Store the app goes into the 'dock', in the dock there's also an app called Launchpad, when you click Launchpad in the dock you bring up an app-launcher where the icon of the app you just downloaded is also residing? That's confusing. That's messy - by Apple's standards. It's confusing full-stop. They should have killed the dock.
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post #86 of 168
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Originally Posted by cutykamu View Post

i think what they are trying to do is bring iOS features on the mac but the mac UI will still be there... for example you have to launch the Launchpad unlike in iphone which is the only interface available... the people who don't like iOS interface can still use the mac one as dock is still available there...

It's exactly what they're doing, but people can't seem to grasp that these are secondary interfaces. People see a demo of a feature and for some reason think this will be the only way to do something, even though it was clearly shown to be an alternate interface.

The LaunchPad was clearly just another app that had to be launched from the Dock. Just as with Dashboard today, I'm sure it can be dragged out and removed. Never needing to be used for any reason. Same goes for the "full-screen" mode that appear when you click the 'maximize' button. Don't want to go to full screen, then don't.
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post #87 of 168
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Originally Posted by rtm135 View Post

Same difference. Don't be a douche.

no, its not the same difference, you clearly missed the point and the implication.

Also you judge an entire OS on one tiny sneak peak of a couple of features in progress. Short sighted, narrow minded, blinkered even? Some nice concepts, early days.

First thing Steve said was that there had been some major work "under the hood" but he was just going to show a couple of front end features just to show something to give a taster of the new workings.

I see the basis of a new "finder", a new way of sorting/finding apps and docs - the concept is exciting and I for one can't wait.
post #88 of 168
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Exactly, and that is what the mistake is. They should have taken more big and bold risks and cleaned the whole thing up more in the process. Installing apps and using them is now simpler than ever, yet using the computer is more confusing. They could have overhauled the whole thing and thought of a cool replacement for the dock. Heck - they could have made Launchpad the default view of the OS in general, somehow.

They will now have this thing called App Store (for Mac). When you download something from App Store the app goes into the 'dock', in the dock there's a n app called Launchpad, when you click Launchpad in the dock you bring up an app-launcher whey the icon of the app you just downloaded is also residing? That's confusing. That's messy - by Apple's standards.

And you know this isn't being done? Were we shown a finished product today, because unless I was much mistaken, Steve said there were major changes in progress both under the hood and in terms of functionality. Maybe if he'd considered that from a 4 minute sneak preview some people were going to judge the entire OS he wouldn't have bothered.

It's a damn good job some of us have a little more imagination and patience.
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

I think you're wrong. Touch-screen works better on tablets, that's why. Touch-screen devices need to be smaller and lighter than Macs, way smaller than the Air, even. Not merely lighter.

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Personally, I have zero interest in a touch screen Mac. I think it would be a terrible idea unless the form factor is completely revamped to make more ergonomic sense.

Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.

Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Nobody cares about third party iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.

Apple will not add GPS to the iPhone. Nobody cares about GPS on the iPhone.

Apple will not add copy and paste to the iPhone. Nobody cares about copy and paste.

Apple will not add multitasking to the iPhone. Nobody cares about multitasking.

Apple will not allow iPhone apps to be created with third party dev tools.

Apple will never switch to Intel processors.
post #90 of 168
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

The dock is a launcher, Launchpad is a launcher. Kill one of them and quit fucking around. Apple normally have the balls, but this time they didn't.

The dock is instant access in all screens to favourite apps. Launchpad is way of sorting and accessing all apps. Is there any problem with having two ways of doing the same thing, exactly as you do today - use the dock, stick your apps folder into the dock to act as a stack, or view the apps folder in finder. Work the way that you prefer - it's called choice.
post #91 of 168
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

And you know this isn't being done? Were we shown a finished product today, because unless I was much mistaken, Steve said there were major changes in progress both under the hood and in terms of functionality. Maybe if he'd considered that from a 4 minute sneak preview some people were going to judge the entire OS he wouldn't have bothered.

It's a damn good job some of us have a little more imagination and patience.

Ok, you have patience and I'll get pissed like Gruber often does and pretty soon others shout too and Apple listens. I'm reacting to what I saw, you can do different if you want. I demand excellence from Apple, and I hope they respect that their users often do. Mission Control is ill-conceived, the whole Launchpad is too, I hope Apple knows that.
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post #92 of 168
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

The dock is instant access in all screens to favourite apps. Launchpad is way of sorting and accessing all apps. Is there any problem with having two ways of doing the same thing.

Yes, because the whole point of launchpad is simplification. Which it doesn't achieve.
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post #93 of 168
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Originally Posted by Haggar View Post

Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.

Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Nobody cares about third party iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.

Apple will not add GPS to the iPhone. Nobody cares about GPS on the iPhone.

Apple will not add copy and paste to the iPhone. Nobody cares about copy and paste.

Apple will not add multitasking to the iPhone. Nobody cares about multitasking.

Apple will not allow iPhone apps to be created with third party dev tools.

Apple will never switch to Intel processors.

Everyone a misquote taken out of context. Apple have always spoken for the situation as it currently is. It's never "never", he's talking about right now - right now no one wants to do this. Without the iPod infrastructure, without apple TV and the iTunes store at the level it is today there was no point in downloading a movie to your iPod - things have changed.

Multitasking? The way that multi tasking works on a desktop won't work for an iOS device, they went away and came up with a new way of dealing with it, just as Steve said they would.

Just because a company say three years ago that something currently isn't right, or ready for application, that's not a statement that things will never change.

I've never heard Steve say "ever" in any keynote he's ever given.
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Originally Posted by Haggar View Post

Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.

Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Nobody cares about third party iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.

Apple will not add GPS to the iPhone. Nobody cares about GPS on the iPhone.

Apple will not add copy and paste to the iPhone. Nobody cares about copy and paste.

Apple will not add multitasking to the iPhone. Nobody cares about multitasking.

Apple will not allow iPhone apps to be created with third party dev tools.

Apple will never switch to Intel processors.

I never said one of these things.
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post #95 of 168
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Originally Posted by Haggar View Post

Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.

Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Nobody cares about third party iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.

Apple will not add GPS to the iPhone. Nobody cares about GPS on the iPhone.

Apple will not add copy and paste to the iPhone. Nobody cares about copy and paste.

Apple will not add multitasking to the iPhone. Nobody cares about multitasking.

Apple will not allow iPhone apps to be created with third party dev tools.

Apple will never switch to Intel processors.

Huh? When did I ever say one of those things? I don't care if the whole world said them, I never did. Just like I never said Apple will never make a TV. Apple's big touch screen push is the iPad, and the reason is you hold the iPad in your hands. That's why you want to touch is and it makes sense.
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post #96 of 168
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Yes, because the whole point of launchpad is simplification. Which it doesn't achieve.

yes, it does. For many users who come to the mac new with 10.7 their apps will be accessed in the same way as on their IOS devices - for those who choose not to work in this way, they can use the finder or the doc. All the solutions are simple, launchpad the most easy. If you can't see it's easier to move two fingers up a mouse and be presented with single click icons of your all apps in an easy to customise screen then you have no idea how the average consumer/not IT buff thinks.
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

Yes, it does.

No it doesn't. It would if the dock was replaced with something else and your app jumped from App Store to Launchpad, but that isn't how it works. Even the idea of having both a dock and a launchpad sucks. They should make it impossible to add apps to the dock, changing the dock to something else. Done of course in a clever and intuitive way. That would be innovative.
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post #98 of 168
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Huh? When did I ever say one of those things? I don't care if the whole world said them, I never did. Just like I never said Apple will never make a TV. Apple's big touch screen push is the iPad, and the reason is you hold the iPad in your hands. That's why you want to touch is and it makes sense.

I guess you weren't around before 1990 when everyone worked on a flat desk with something called paper and a pen. A million years of evolution led to us working on a flat surface with the tactile input of our hands. It's only the last 20 years that have given us a vertical work surface. I for one would be much happier working on a desk, like my old A0 parallel motion board than using a keyboard for input on a horizontal surface to interact with a vertical display. I never got the back ache in ten years of using an old fashioned desk that I get using a vertical computer monitor.
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

No it doesn't. It would if the dock was replaced with something else and your app jumped from App Store to Launchpad, but that isn't how it works. Even the idea of having both a dock and a launchpad sucks.

So because you have two ways of achieving the same thing, it's not simple? You're a wee bit thick if you don't mind me saying. Anyhow - 02:28 time for bed I think.

Enjoy your rant, come join the rest of us on 10.7 next year or clear off and buy ubuntu or something.
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

No it doesn't. It would if the dock was replaced with something else and your app jumped from App Store to Launchpad, but that isn't how it works. Even the idea of having both a dock and a launchpad sucks.

You also have no idea how it works - you were given a tiny glimpse today the same as the rest of us. So stop with the assumptions. Troll.
post #101 of 168
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I guess you weren't around before 1990 when everyone worked on a flat desk with something called paper and a pen.

Yes, and then humans innovated to create touch screen iPads you can bring with you .
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post #102 of 168
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

So because you have two ways of achieving the same thing, it's not simple?

In this case, no. It's not. They could change that though.
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post #103 of 168
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You also have no idea how it works - you were given a tiny glimpse today the same as the rest of us. So stop with the assumptions. Troll.

Troll? You're the one making assumptions, noob.
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post #104 of 168
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Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post

C'mon man that was just a "little" preview of 10.7. We haven't seen the rest. We are yet to see a full demo and it's not releasing for another 8-9 months. Wait til you see the rest before you express your disappointment.

Ya Ive been following OS X keynotes since Panther, there are always rumors of big secret features that will be released later, but they never materialize.

OS X needs a new finder, Ive been waiting for one a long time. They re-wrote in 10.6, but its still pretty crippled IMO.
post #105 of 168
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Originally Posted by chronster View Post

I chuckled at the full screen apps thing.

This all seems very impressive and sensible of Apple though. I'm impressed. Too bad I just bought a house and can't justify buying any of these new toys

i'm impressed too, too bad for me that i'm gonna buy these new toys and not the house...

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post #106 of 168
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Yes, and then humans innovated to create touch screen iPads you can bring with you .

iPads are like are like enhanced notebooks (I talk about the paper ones) you can use them anywhere, but have nothing to do with desktops, an horizontal touch mac would improve the old desktop we used since writing had been invented. You know it's not the same, and still you try to make them the same for the sake of criticizing...

As for the Dock and the Launch Pad they serve two different purpose; the dock allows you to launch quickly the apps you use the most, and also to have a quick access to your running apps, Launch pad is just a new way to launch anyone of the apps on your mac, it's just a new way to present the old application folder. Again, you know that but deliberately mess the thing for the sake of criticizing...
I would agree that displaying the dock when Launch pad is on use might be unnecessary, but it's not a bad thing either.

What about stopping criticizing for the sake of criticizing ?
post #107 of 168
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Exactly, and that is the mistake. They should have taken more big and bold risks and cleaned the whole thing up more in the process. Installing apps and using them is now simpler than ever, yet using the computer is more confusing. They could have overhauled the whole thing and thought of a cool replacement for the dock. Heck - they could have made Launchpad the default view of the OS in general, somehow.

They will now have this thing called App Store (for Mac). When you download something from App Store the app goes into the 'dock', in the dock there's also an app called Launchpad, when you click Launchpad in the dock you bring up an app-launcher where the icon of the app you just downloaded is also residing? That's confusing. That's messy - by Apple's standards. It's confusing full-stop. They should have killed the dock.

i agree with you, but we are still far away (about 9 months) from the lion release so i guess let's wait n see what they bring in the final version...

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post #108 of 168
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

You also have no idea how it works - you were given a tiny glimpse today the same as the rest of us. So stop with the assumptions. Troll.

Finding someone who does not share your point of view does not make them a troll.

I thought the same thing myself, for what it's worth.

I launch all my apps through spotlight. I think in my head 'Pages', and it's almost automatic. Icons don't help me much at all for some reason. Even on my iPhone I find I am relying on where the icons are, rather than their shape. For me, Launchpad will rarely, if ever, be used.
post #109 of 168
1) I welcome the App store. It will make discovering new apps so much eaiser, it will encourage developers to create apps for Mac, and this is a good thing since most brick and mortar stores don't carry a lot of Mac software.

2) Mission control? Awesome.

3) Quick access to apps? May take some getting used to for us veteran users. I can see this being a positive to new users. Must easier than digging around in finder.
post #110 of 168
I hate apologists lets make peace with something here, the invite for this event said back to mac and had an image of the next version of OS X, when they finally got to it what they showed us was a maximize button, launchpad and mission control. I dont count the app store since it will be available before Lion even comes out. Lets be honest with ourselves if your going to tease a product you give people something interesting or something that grabs peoples interests and say hey you havent seen anything yet but thats not what happened here. We got some reworked features that were dragged over from the ipad to do duty on the desktop. Anyone who says they are holding out till the last second so that no one can copy them please stop drinking the kool aide. I think Snow Leopard is a wonderful product in how honest it is. They came right out and said you know what this kicks ass so we just need to tidy things up a bit and throw in some cool ideas we had kicking around and since this is a huge reworking of the OS we wont bleed you for it. I guarantee you that whatever "features" they didnt show today 95% of them mare going to be minor stuff that barely register as a bullet point...you know kinda like "we added over 300 new features...like we added imap access to gmail!" I would love to be proven wrong on this but I doubt I will but thats ok because Snow Leopard is an awesome OS X already.
post #111 of 168
Absolutely genius. This now ties together the entire Apple ecosystem. This will likely be the most user-friendly OS Apple has ever released.
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Originally Posted by 11thIndian View Post

The proverbial "you" that is.

I find it interesting that so many here have criticized the implementation the new more iOS style features as being useless, since they don't work for them.

In fact, I think the interesting thing about these ideas is that they're totally voluntary. If you don't want to use mission control- DON'T. If you don't want to buy apps through the appStore- DON'T. If launchpad seems like a Mickey Mouse way to view your applications- DON'T USE IT!

Keep using your mac the way you are. Buy your software how you want.

I think what Apple might have tweaked onto over the last 4 years since the iPhone came out, is that there is a GREAT MANY people who still feel daunted by the average computer experience. Anyone who finds themselves acting as impromptu tech support for friends and family can attest to this fact. "Where are my files?". "What do you mean it didn't save?". Moreover, the success of the iPad for people who've never used a computer before only further illustrates that we still haven't reached the intuitive and consumer oriented paradigm that probably 80% of people are looking for.

So imagine the benefits for Apple if they can bring a truly accessible OS to market. An OS that services people of DIFFERENT skill levels. For those who want a simple and clean experience, the layer is there to make personal computing a pleasant and less frustrating one, but if you're in a pro oriented field, or have the depth of knowledge and want to dig deeper, the more traditional paradigm is there. This could mean a HUGE opportunity for Apple to seize market-share from a group that's looking for a decidedly non-techie computing experience.

it's very much a parallel to the comments I see about the Air. People in various groups decrying the machines deficiencies- when they're not deficiencies! It's called specialization! As a pro editor, the Air ain't for me. But I can certainly imagine a group looking for an ultralight portable that's NOT a netbook; with a nice display and full size keyboard. It's not for 3D animation. It's not for a video pro like myself. It's probably not the world's best gaming machine. It is what it is, and if what it is ain't for you, that's not the Air's problem, and it shouldn't be yours!

Once in a while, much too sparsely, a comment reflects perfectly the sweet spot of the tech user experience. No bragging, no whining, just a simple reminder that people's differentiated agendas matter more than clinical efficiency. Thanks.
post #113 of 168
I can understand people bitching about the 10 minute demo of the new OS, whining cause they think they have it all figured out... but what is being missed here, is the future of the desktop OS.

We're FINALLY getting rid of the 'windowed' world we've lived in since the 90's. How awesome is that?

Yes we have big monitors so we can have multiple windows open, but what if we didn't have to? I think one of the coolest features I saw today, was being in a Full Screen application, ridding the view of the normal desktop we've stared at for decades, not having to menu dive for features/options, and being able to 'flip' between these Full Screened apps with ease. If you want to go back to your standard desktop, it's a 'swipe'. This is a new way of desktop computing.

So for all the people that are stuck in OS 9, Windows '95, and Red Hat 1... seriously... think before you bitch.

The Mac App Store, is going to generate a huge amount of profit for them. Bravo. Keep spending that money Apple, and innovate something cooler.

The whole iOS application screen thing. Seriously... how awesome is it that you don't have to dive in your stacks, your app folder, other places on your hard drive, to find/open/use your app. Just a gesture on a mouse or a trackpad, touch, boom... your app. Nicely transferred to the desktop. Rock on Apple. Yes, it's faster to just click the icon in the dock, but I'm not referring to that. I'm talking about diving into menus, and app folders. The bitching behind this, reminds me when Expose` was announced. It was stated in multiple forums, "but I can just 'cmd-tab' blah blah blah". Ketchup/Catsup. Whatever.

The only 'fail' from the tiny 10 minute preview, would be Mission Control. Stupid branding, it's a revamped Expose`. Yawn.

I laugh at all the people that shout how much they're not excited about this OS. I'm sorry, but the only time I stood in line for an OS was 10.3, and this will be the second time I stand in line for an OS. Excited? You bet. This is the future of Desktop computing. Finally starting to rid the world of 'windowed' computing, and the 'mouse', 10.7 is the first real step, and I want to be apart of it.
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Originally Posted by Shinrah View Post

I hate apologists lets make peace with something here, the invite for this event said back to mac and had an image of the next version of OS X, when they finally got to it what they showed us was a maximize button, launchpad and mission control. I dont count the app store since it will be available before Lion even comes out. Lets be honest with ourselves if your going to tease a product you give people something interesting or something that grabs peoples interests and say hey you havent seen anything yet but thats not what happened here. We got some reworked features that were dragged over from the ipad to do duty on the desktop. Anyone who says they are holding out till the last second so that no one can copy them please stop drinking the kool aide. I think Snow Leopard is a wonderful product in how honest it is. They came right out and said you know what this kicks ass so we just need to tidy things up a bit and throw in some cool ideas we had kicking around and since this is a huge reworking of the OS we wont bleed you for it. I guarantee you that whatever "features" they didnt show today 95% of them mare going to be minor stuff that barely register as a bullet point...you know kinda like "we added over 300 new features...like we added imap access to gmail!" I would love to be proven wrong on this but I doubt I will but thats ok because Snow Leopard is an awesome OS X already.

You know it's a let down when a comment as lame as this is actually spot on.
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post #115 of 168
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Originally Posted by Matthias03 View Post

I can understand people bitching about the 10 minute demo of the new OS, whining cause they think they have it all figured out... but what is being missed here, is the future of the desktop OS.

We're FINALLY getting rid of the 'windowed' world we've lived in since the 90's. How awesome is that?

You must have watched a different demo to me. I saw more windows, overlays, icons and swipey-swipey features than I ever care to. Mission Control for example is so complex looking I can even see geeks becoming befuddled by it.
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post #116 of 168
But will OSX Lion support BLU-RAY??????

this is retarded how backward Apple is being all to protect their iTunes movie rentals. BS, Apple makes alot of money. look at this Quarters Apple Earnings.
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Originally Posted by kpluck View Post

Actually, what he said was that he wished he had time to "show more". This could have meant simply going into greater detail for the features they quickly went through during the demo.

He the ends this part by saying Lion is due of the summer of 2011 and then says, "So that is OS X Lion."

Also the presenter kept saying that there was a lot more to Lion.
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They might change it.

I certainly hope so. It's starting to look like a ten car pile-up.

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I thought facetime would be on the latest update...but don't see it?

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I thought facetime would be on the latest update...but don't see it?

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Its a Beta so you have to seek it out for yourself and use at your own risk.
http://www.apple.com/mac/facetime/
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