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Six months after the launch of Apple's iPad, HP is ready to launch its Slate 500 tablet device, which will cost $799 and is aimed at business customers.

Several news sites and blogs published details of the product launch Thursday, although the official HP Slate page at www.hp.com/go/slate had yet to go live.

According to Reuters, the HP Slate 500 will fit a full-version of Windows 7 into a 1.5 pound tablet with an 8.9-inch multi-touch screen and a 5-hour battery life. With 64GB of Flash storage, the device is $100 more than the comparable 64GB iPad. The tablet will reportedly have a 1024-by-600-pixel resolution.

The Slate 500 comes with a "digital stylus pen" and is equipped with front and rear cameras and a USB port. According to Engadget, the Slate is powered by a 1.86 GHz Intel Atom Z540 processor and 2GB of RAM.



Unlike Apple, which markets the iPad primarily to consumers, HP is stressing the Slate 500's suitability for business users. "It's really like a full-function PC, it runs Windows, it will run your office applications, it just so happens to be in a slate form factor," said Carol Hess-Nickels, director of business notebook marketing at HP.



Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer unveiled the HP Slate at CES in January. Following HP's purchase of Palm, which was primarily for its WebOS, news of the upcoming HP Slate dwindled. HP has since promised a consumer-focused WebOS-based tablet will be released next year.

During Apple's Q4 2010 conference call Monday, Apple CEO Steve Jobs told analysts that rival tablet makers were having trouble matching the iPad's pricing with comparable specs.

"Our potential competitors [in tablets] are having a tough time coming close to iPad's pricing," Jobs said. "iPad incorporates everything we've learned about building high value products. We create our own A4 chip, software, battery chemistry, enclosure, everything. This results in an incredible product at a great price. The proof will be in the pricing of our competitors' products, which will offer less for more."

For a comparison of the Slate versus the iPad, see the chart below.


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"...It's really like a full-function PC, it runs Windows..."

that's all i need to know. bring on the iPad.
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Too bad it doesn't come with sandpaper.
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Again missing the point. Windows 7 is designed as a mouse driven interface, NOT a touch interface. Yes, some people will want it, but it's going to be a kludge to use. Fortunately, there are people that are used to that because they use Windows every day. User interface isn't an important element in their computing experience.

Now, what I'd really like to see is how the battery lasts on this slate. I'm guessing 3 hours max.
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Now, what I'd really like to see is how the battery lasts on this slate. I'm guessing 3 hours max.

That and how long it takes to boot up.
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That and how long it takes to boot up.

From the description it seems that as above it will not be instant on, it requires way more Ram and a faster processor than the iPad and they want to charge $100 more for it....
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HP seems to have "repositioned" it, including a Wacom digitizer and 64GB flash memory (storage).

However, that still doesn't remove the MS "Slate" push back in January that had everyone thinking they were competing with the iPad.

So people are expecting an iPad competitor and then they get this? So it's basically a tablet PC that is fully tablet (no HW keyboard)... ok, price is good if you want a full PC, but it's kind of also crippled with an Atom and a 600px height screen (ie, netbook class).

Kind of it's own species of bird, really. Hopefully for HP, not a Dodo.

oh, and there's a pullout windows license plate (no other function)... WTF?
http://www.engadget.com/photos/hp-sl...ds-on/#3494158
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All these destined to fail attempts made me glad I got an iPad as soon as was made available here.

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post #9 of 434
all i want to know is battery life of this device.

everything else, i can tolerate.
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IMO, the only thing that this has on the iPad is the SD storage. But honestly, I don't have an iPad, so I can't say for sure.
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post #11 of 434
Let's all be good sports, chip in and buy one!
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What a bargain! Windows 7 alone sells for $175+ on amazon. Act now!!

The stylus must be absolutely incredible. Google images didn't pull up any photos of it.

From what I've read, the slate lacks a slot for the stylus. The stylus is supposed to be stashed in a carrying case for the slate.
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Once you figure in the 17 Gigs for a full version of windows 7 before it starts to bloat and the relatively large size of Windows programs like Office, there wont be much space left so you will need to add more flash and 2 gigs of ram sounds like a minimum for running 7 efficiently. Wait, does this thing have a cdrom? How will you get all of those wonderful full programs on CD installed? And battery life will be a joke!!
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They just don't get it....
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Once you figure in the 17 Gigs for a full version of windows 7 before it starts to bloat and the relatively large size of Windows programs like Office, there wont be much space left so you will need to add more flash and 2 gigs of ram sounds like a minimum for running 7 efficiently. Wait, does this thing have a cdrom? How will you get all of those wonderful full programs on CD installed? And battery life will be a joke!!

Downloading these "full programs" should be interesting: photoshop for example takes several hours to download, then longer to install - and when running win7 and any resource intensive apps (whole point of windows on a tablet) I doubt thus thing gets more than 2.5 hrs battery life.
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Let's all continue to bash a product we've never used or even have the full specs on.
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Let's all continue to bash a product we've never used or even have the full specs on.

We do know one thing.... it has windows on it....and windows 7 at that. eeek!
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Once you figure in the 17 Gigs for a full version of windows 7 before it starts to bloat and the relatively large size of Windows programs like Office, there wont be much space left so you will need to add more flash and 2 gigs of ram sounds like a minimum for running 7 efficiently. Wait, does this thing have a cdrom? How will you get all of those wonderful full programs on CD installed? And battery life will be a joke!!

How much is a full installation of OS x in disk space? Itunes? I suspect the the bloatiness of apps is a lot closer than you think.
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We do know one thing.... it has windows on it....and windows 7 at that. eeek!

When you say "Windows 7 at that" it just proves that you know very little about that particular product line.

Windows 7 is great. Really. I say that without a shadow of sarcasm or irony.

I'm not so sure it's a good fit inside this particular product but as a desktop OS it's neck and neck with anything else out there.
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A sure shot recipe for failure is to make your product look like a Chinese knockoff of an already popular brand. I'm looking for the 'Abble' logo somewhere the first time I use one of these hands on.

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Let's all continue to bash a product we've never used or even have the full specs on.

Putting Windows on a PC without a keyboard has been done before. And it sucks.
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oh, and there's a pullout windows license plate (no other function)... WTF?
http://www.engadget.com/photos/hp-sl...ds-on/#3494158

I think that's the battery....

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What a bargain! Windows 7 alone sells for $175+ on amazon. Act now!!

The stylus must be absolutely incredible. Google images didn't pull up any photos of it.

From what I've read, the slate lacks a slot for the stylus. The stylus is supposed to be stashed in a carrying case for the slate.

Stylus = fail. But then Windows is going to need a stylus, so Windows = fail too.
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How much is a full installation of OS x in disk space? Itunes? I suspect the the bloatiness of apps is a lot closer than you think.

Um, which is likely why Apple doesn't put full OS X on a tablet, which I believe would be the point.
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Um, which is likely why Apple doesn't put full OS X on a tablet, which I believe would be the point.

Which you saw I acknowledged in my very next post. The under the one you replied to.
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Unlike Apple, which markets the iPad primarily to consumers, HP is stressing the Slate 500's suitability for business users.

Meaning "Only business users will have the patience and IT staff required to maintain what is essentially a desktop OS on a mobile table format, including anti-virus updates, spyware, malware, driver issues, and general system instabilities and performance issues due to inadequate hardware.

I think HP knows - and admits in a subtle way - that this is not anywhere meant for general consumers. The format is interesting to say the least and I'm sure there is a very, very small niche for it. Perhaps HP is fishing it to see who bites before they invest any serious money on it.

I use Windows XP & Windows 7 on both my MBA and i7 iMac using VMware for use during my 8-to-5 office work. Neither of them should ever be used in a tablet format and be labeled a competitor to the iPad. I think HP knows that.

Good luck to them. They're going to need it.
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Let's all continue to bash a product we've never used or even have the full specs on.

Sorry, wrong thread. You want the one where the Fandroids are bashing the iPhone 4

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How much is a full installation of OS x in disk space? Itunes? I suspect the the bloatiness of apps is a lot closer than you think.

Windows 7 32bit 14gb
Windows 7 64bit 20gb

OS X 10.6.4 9gb
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When you say "Windows 7 at that" it just proves that you know very little about that particular product line.

Windows 7 is great. Really. I say that without a shadow of sarcasm or irony.

I'm not so sure it's a good fit inside this particular product but as a desktop OS it's neck and neck with anything else out there.

Please save it. I have Windows 7 on my mac. When I said Windows 7 at that I was referring to the fact that it's not a Windows Mobile type system. They just dumped Windows 7 on there. It would've been better if they had just released a version of Windows Mobile or worked closely with MSFT to get a Windows Mobile OS out of them for their tablet.
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I wonder why HP didn't choose Win7 Starter (the netbook version of Win7). It would have given them the advantage of being able to install full-blown software, while needing less hardware power.
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I wonder why HP didn't choose Win7 Starter (the netbook version of Win7). It would have given them the advantage of being able to install full-blown software, while needing less hardware power.

Window7 starter has maximum system requirements
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Please save it. I have Windows 7 on my mac. When I said Windows 7 at that I was referring to the fact that it's not a Windows Mobile type system.

You must assume that I and everyone else can read minds, then:

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We do know one thing.... it has windows on it....and windows 7 at that. eeek!

I must have missed the bit where you referred to the fact that it's not a Windows Mobile type system. Can you show me where that is? You might have implied something but it's an imply FAIL because there's nothing to imply from what you wrote.
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Total, unmitigated fail.

I thought HP canned this idea months ago.

Typical solution when your product can't compete with the iPad: just say it's aimed at the "business" crowd.

Exept they're getting in on the iPad, too.
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Window7 starter has maximum system requirements

I know, it is only licensed to netbooks, but given the specs of the slate, wouldn't it qualify? Or is there a more specific list of maximum system requirements, i.e. MS definition of a netbook?
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EPIC FAIL on HP's behalf... I'm pretty sure it will have a noisy fan inside like most netbooks cooling the atom cpu.
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Okay we can all laugh and point and say how shit it is, but the big question for me and more importantly HP is *who the fuck is going to buy this thing?*. I can only think of the geeks of the geeks who hate Apple, and they don't have money.
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... they blew it.

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1.5 pound tablet

Missed, HP. Too weighty. The iPad is 1.5 pound too and that's its main drawback.

Otherwise

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...with an 8.9-inch multi-touch screen.

is always better, than 7" screen.

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this is aimed at businesses yeah, not consumers..

.. So these would be the businesses who have spent most of 2010 testing and rolling out ipad and preparing custom software. The same businesses who also push virtualized sessions of windows whatever to their iPads with no tablet resource limits.

Ah yes, of course.. It should be an easy sell
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post #38 of 434
Apple should make a Mac as light and small (or even better: lighter and smaller) as the HP Slate 500. With any form factor: tablet, slider or clamshell.
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Again missing the point. Windows 7 is designed as a mouse driven interface, NOT a touch interface. Yes, some people will want it, but it's going to be a kludge to use. Fortunately, there are people that are used to that because they use Windows every day. User interface isn't an important element in their computing experience.

Now, what I'd really like to see is how the battery lasts on this slate. I'm guessing 3 hours max.

You might be onto something, except for the fact that Windows 7 was designed with a touch interface in mind as well, there is a free product that is available which is called "Microsoft Touch Pack for Windows 7"
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I know, it is only licensed to netbooks, but given the specs of the slate, wouldn't it qualify? Or is there a more specific list of maximum system requirements, i.e. MS definition of a netbook?

CPU: Single core processor that operates at 2GHz or less and has a CPU thermal design power that is 15W or less, not including graphics and chipset.
Screen Size: 10.2 inches or smaller (previously 12.1″ for Windows Vista and XP Starter)
RAM: 1GB or less
Storage: Up to 250GB hard drive or 64GB SSD (previously 160GB or 32GB SSD for Windows Vista and XP Starter)
Graphics: No restrictions on touch screen or graphics
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