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post #81 of 186
10/23/10 at 10:17am
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I'M also with you on the storage issue. My installation is a little thinner at around 80 to 90 GB so a 128 GB SSD is too small. Especially when I carry my iTunes library on a second harddrive. Due to large transient files a 200GB drive barelly covers my needs.

In the case of the 11" AIR the problem is truly artificial as the 13" machine uses the same card format from what I can see. Apple is really missing the boat here with respect to storage.

I dont get this line of thinking at all. Who would by a ultra-portable and expect it to have massive internal storage that is found in a notebook or desktop HDD.

As for your comment that these limitations are artificial, OF COURSE THEY ARE. Apple specifically tried to make a light and thin notebook that was highly-portable with decent usage time. If those aspects dont fit your primary needs then this isnt the machine for you, plain and simple. Could Apple have halved the battery and stuck in dual 9.5mm 750GB HDDs for a total of 1.5TB storage. Sure, but that doesnt make any sense.
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post #82 of 186
10/23/10 at 10:20am
I saw the 11" MBA in the Apple shop in Enschede today and I was blown away by it. It's a netbook, sure, but other netbooks pale in comparison. It's so thin and so light, with a good screen and a good, usable keyboard. I almost bought it on the spot, but luckily I could restrain myself. 1000,- is a fair price for it IMO, though it's still a lot of money.
Another thing that struck me again was how enthousiastic the persons who visit the shop were. Clients explain to each other the ins and outs of the machines. So cool! Sometimes it's hard to distinguish the personell and the clients because also the people who work there just radiate 'Apple is fun.' I had a good time there in the Apple shop
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post #83 of 186
10/23/10 at 10:59am
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Love to see this thread. People may have disagreed with certain aspects of your design, but not the removal of the trapdoor.

The issue with dragging up this thread is the Flickr account is no longer with us. Nevertheless, you'll get the point: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=84681

Ignore the ethernet talk, I admit that isn't needed. Point being; kill the trap-door, which they did.

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post #84 of 186
10/23/10 at 11:28am
According to MacDaillyNews Poll over 25% where most excited about the new MacBook Airs, second to Lion following the keynote.

Perhaps this interest is another testament evidenced by the success of the iPad. I.e., a lot of people don't need a full blown computer or use the likes of Photoshop/Illustrator/Final Cut Pro/Lightroom/Aperture/Logic, etc.

It is also interesting, that although iLife '11's three major apps did not get the heart rate up to the same level, the Suite is already #1 on Amazon's Best Selling Software List. http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/software

We should keep in mind that there are a lot of folks out there that whether to do their job or acquire an education, word processing and all that entails, e.g., researching/corresponding, is their number one focus. And in that light, a MacBook Air with MS Office/iWorks/Safari, along with Mail/Address Book/iCalendar, is more than sufficient. This is particularly true, if it has to be in arms' length for much of their working day, and they have a few toys/games/hobbies and music to play with at the end of the day.

Certainly, something that should not be begrudged.
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post #85 of 186
10/23/10 at 11:33am
11" MacBook Air: AUDIO: MONO

13" MacBook Air: AUDIO: STERIO
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post #86 of 186
10/23/10 at 11:48am
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The issue with dragging up this thread is the Flickr account is no longer with us. Nevertheless, you'll get the point: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=84681

Ignore the ethernet talk, I admit that isn't needed. Point being; kill the trap-door, which they did.

With all due respect, Ireland, most of the flack you took on thread came from two things: your not unusual tone of imperious certainty and contempt for anyone who disagrees with you, and the fact that your design solution for the door involved a kind of bulbous protrusion along the port area-- not any particular horror that the door was a great good and Apple would be foolish to eliminate it.

So they eliminated the door, just as you wished, but via an entirely different design vocabulary. And just in general, constantly demanding that Apple accede to your obvious superior design sense and then crowing when your and their intentions occasionally align is just sort of off-putting.

I hope this doesn't sound too mean; I like your ideas and your enthusiasm. But you seem to be growing ever more dismissive and belligerent and convinced of your unerring rightness, and those just aren't good qualities, for anyone about anything. I seem to recall you used to have a little more sense of humor about it all?
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post #87 of 186
10/23/10 at 11:49am
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11" MacBook Air: AUDIO: MONO

13" MacBook Air: AUDIO: STERIO

That's not what the apple spec says - 11.6" stereo!

I'll be ordering a 11,6" 4Gb, 1.6GHz, 128Gb this week.

Something I'd like to know, is whether it would be possible to get an 256Gb SSD in 11.6".
Apple don't offer one as an option, but could you order a part for the 13" one, or swap one from the 13" one and transplant it to the 11.6" Air? It should be the right sort, would it fit physically?

Hmmm ... maybe I should email iFixIt about it, they've probably taken apart at least one of each by now.
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post #88 of 186
10/23/10 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

The issue with dragging up this thread is the Flickr account is no longer with us. Nevertheless, you'll get the point: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=84681

Ignore the ethernet talk, I admit that isn't needed. Point being; kill the trap-door, which they did.

I don't see many posts saying the doors are awesome, it sounds like they had other issues with your design. Without seeing the pictures it's difficult to really discuss, but i will quote part of your OP:

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Point being they could have not used that stupid, stupid, stupid door and made a flat side wall to accommodate more ports, particularly an ethernet port. And the ports would also be able to be used by "all" peripherals. They could have done this side part is a sleek way, it could have actually looked good. Taper the whole side accept for the area around the ports, and make the transition between both shapes gradually contoured. Obviously this is a crude mockup, but then again the Air was designed by an amateur also - Ive's intern. Dongles, UBS hubs? As Jobs said about the stylus; "you have to get them, and put them away.. yuck!" I agree Steve, Yuck! Besides, the Air could then come with a 1 meter ethernet chord for very quick migration, no need for Firewire.

You say ignore the Ethernet port part, but is seems like it was very important to you at the time. You description of how the area around the ports would look sounds downright awful, no wonder people didn't like it. Apple went with a flat side wall with a tapered base below it, not a flat side wall transitioning into a tapered side wall. Basically all your mockups (based on the description) seem to have in common with the new MBA is that they found away to eliminate the door. I bet if we were to take a survey of what MBA owners hated the most, that door would rank pretty high. So suggesting Apple remove them is hardly a unique idea.

Needless to say, why are you bragging about your "prediction" and mocking all those who doubted you even though the ones that doubted you aren't even posting in this thread? I'm getting tired about hearing how "great" you are. Good job, Apple granted two things on your wishlist of many many things you want. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
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post #89 of 186
10/23/10 at 12:08pm
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I can live with everything except for the battery life.

So they should've stuck an Atom CPU there to increase the battery life. Sony's Vaio X series have them and get you up to 10h at the same 11" form factor at almost the price of the new MBAs.

Would you care if it had an Atom over the Core2Duo?
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post #90 of 186
10/23/10 at 12:17pm
Since every computer design involves tradeoffs Apple of course cannot win among a certain, um, demographic. Whichever qualities they decide to emphasize, we can always talk about other manufacturers who emphasized something else, and pretend like that one quality is make or break and puts the Apple product in a bad light.

Thus, if Apple goes for battery life at the cost of CPU power, they look bad compared to the mighty but short lived competition. If they up the processor but take a battery hit, there's a battery life champion to sing the praises of. If they keep weight and size at a minimum there's a bigger and heavier machine that has some advantages. If they use better components and charge more there's a cheaper alternative, and on and on.
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post #91 of 186
10/23/10 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by JustReelFilms View Post

So they should've stuck an Atom CPU there to increase the battery life. Sony's Vaio X series have them and get you up to 10h at the same 11" form factor at almost the price of the new MBAs.

Would you care if it had an Atom over the Core2Duo?

Actually they require an extended battery to get 10 hours of battery life. Without the extended battery, they only get 3 hours. The battery life the MBA gets is even better than you suggest.

Note: A Sony Vaio X with an extended battery does not have the same form factor as the MBA:

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post #92 of 186
10/23/10 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by astrosmash View Post

I don't like that power button so close to the delete key. I hit the eject key by accident all the time; if that was a power button that would be very annoying.

You have to press and hold the power button for several seconds before it powers down. You cannot accidentally turn your machine off.
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I don't get it. Why would I buy an Air 11" but for the same price, I get a much better machine buying the MacBook 13"? Makes no sense to me.

Because for some people, they want something that is ultra portable. They don't need a large display, an optical drive, etc. For those people, a very light and compact 11.6'' will fit their needs better than a 13'' model.
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post #93 of 186
10/23/10 at 12:37pm
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I don't understand why anyone thinks 16:9 displays are a good idea on a small notebook. On a large display like an iMac, you can display documents side by side. But on a notebook, most documents are too small to read side by side. So 16:9 is only good for widescreen videos, and it doesn't give you enough vertical space to work on documents or view photographs with a portrait orientation.

I have to agree. Above 22" the 16:9 is tolerable but for something as small as the MBA, it's a curious choice. At least the iPad has a 4:3 aspect screen.

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post #94 of 186
10/23/10 at 12:39pm
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Actually they require an extended battery to get 10 hours of battery life. Without the extended battery, they only get 3 hours. The battery life the MBA gets is even better than you suggest.

Note: A Sony Vaio X with an extended battery does not have the same form factor as the MBA:


So basically, Sony's 3hrs on a single core Atom vs MBA's 5hrs on a Core 2 Duo. hmmm.... Boy, that battery extender makes it even more ugly.


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I just did a spec for spec comparison Sony's X series and the 11" MBA:

Intel Atom Z550 @ 2.00 GHz (single core)
Intel GMA 500 graphics
2GB RAM
128GB SSD
3 Hour battery
$1499


Macbook Air 11.6"
1.6Ghz Core 2 Duo
Nvidia Geforce 320M
2GB RAM
128GB SSD
5 Hour battery
$1299


MBA is still cheaper with a much better GPU.

I wonder how it performs when you benchmark them.
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post #95 of 186
10/23/10 at 12:51pm
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I'm getting tired about hearing how "great" you are. Good job, Apple granted two things on your wishlist of many many things you want. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Tell that to my microwave: it's stopped clock says "SET TIME"

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post #96 of 186
10/23/10 at 12:52pm
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So basically, Sony's 3hrs on a single core Atom vs MBA's 5hrs on a Core 2 Duo. hmmm.... Boy, that battery extender makes it even more ugly.

And another half a pound. Together over $1500.
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post #97 of 186
10/23/10 at 12:54pm
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Tell that to my microwave: it's stopped clock says "SET TIME"

Don't you worry-- Set Time will come around eventually, and who will be laughing then? I mean besides me, maniacally to myself, in the rubble.
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post #98 of 186
10/23/10 at 12:56pm
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Blu-ray players are already cheap. Last holiday season they were under $100, now you can even one for under $27. I’d expect B&M retail stores will have plenty around $79 this holiday shopping season.

But they aren’t any good. Having a video take 5 minutes to load, be choppy and blocky, pause between chapters, or simply quit altogether doesn’t make for a good experience. But, hey, tey technically can play Blu-ray.

Bu those are large, clunky drives that are poor in every way. Apple would have to use a 9.5mm ultra-slim tray-loading Blu-ray player. But how makes those? Why would Apple invest in them?

I download a lot of torrents of UK shows (can’t get them in the US) and I’ll go for the SD AVIs over the HD MKVs if available. on my 13” MBP I just don’t get a visual advantage.

It’s clear that Blu-ray is great for an home theater setup, but it’s pointless for notebook users, which is Apple’s Mac bread-and-butter.

Honestly, Bruce, what benefit would a $700 option for a $999 MacBook would Blu-ray offer on a 1280x800 13.3” display?

AgreedI finally bought a fantastic blu-ray for 100 bucks that plays old dvd's too.

... I wonder ?? Is blu-ray just the player/disc or is blu ray a type of encoding that can be put on flash drives and the such ??

With so many billions of dollars splashed around in the movie/tv biz I wish we had a single HD system .

My friend next year mac tripper blacintosh and the rest will scream for 3D DRIVES IN THE MACS !!
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post #99 of 186
10/23/10 at 1:16pm
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The Air isn't intended for a lot of people then.

Get real. For a vast majority of human beings, 4GB is plenty for what they use computers for.
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post #100 of 186
10/23/10 at 1:21pm
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I don't see many posts saying the doors are awesome, it sounds like they had other issues with your design. Without seeing the pictures it's difficult to really discuss.

You're just going to have to give me the benefit of the doubt. Door was bad design, I said get rid of it, but people were saying they liked it. Then Apple got rid of it. It's really that simple. I wanted the ports flat-walled, like they are now. Again, thank you Apple.

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post #101 of 186
10/23/10 at 1:22pm
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You say ignore the Ethernet port part, but is seems like it was very important to you at the time.

It would still be handy to have it. The main point was the door, that's why I did the mockup, to get rid of it.

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post #102 of 186
10/23/10 at 1:25pm
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Tell that to my microwave: it's stopped clock says "SET TIME"

lol. I guess I was wrong.
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post #103 of 186
10/23/10 at 3:21pm
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Some people don't need the extra power but value lightness and smallness, eg. a writer who travels a lot: they need a physical keyboard (not iPad) but having up to 8gb RAM, a 500gb HDD, and an i5 would be uneccisary.

My thoughts exactly. I could see a newsroom getting new MBAs for all their reporters and editors.
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post #104 of 186
10/23/10 at 3:31pm
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Why did they leave off an optical drive? This is important to some people who view movies or listen to music.Good prices.I just bought a new MBP 13inch.

Optical drives are going the way of the 3.5" floppy 10 years ago. Yes, they're still in use now, but they're fading. Besides, with the itunes store, digital downloads make a lot more sense. As for the MBAs specifically, it would be impossible to squeeze an optical drive in something that thin and have room for everything else that's there. Also, optical drives are mechanical devices which make them a liability for two reasons: 1) they're energy hogs, and 2) mechanical parts wear faster than solid-state parts.
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post #105 of 186
10/23/10 at 3:36pm
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I picked up an 11.6" MBA yesterday, and after getting it set up I have to say, I am going to sell my 13.3" MBP and my iPad. Even with the paltry 2GB of RAM, this thing does just fine.

I used to be heavy into photography and spent lots of time in Aperture and CS3, but I'm not doing that anymore and have found that, quite frankly, there really isn't much a difference in terms of performance between the MBA and the MBP for everyday computing tasks.

Where the difference is huge, however, is just in the experience of having such a light and nimble machine. I guess I won't know for sure until I get more time under my belt, but I like the idea of being back to bringing one device along instead of two.

I think that every once in awhile we need to step back from our geek-roots, and pick up a device and just try to do some real-world stuff with it instead of getting wrapped around the axel over specs and benchmark results.

Here is a geek-fact that I find amazing, though: For about $1100 bucks I got a sub-three-pound computer without any moving parts that runs for five hours on a charge and does everything I need it to. That is pretty amazing! By the time I factor in the sale of my MBP and iPad, my computer bag is lighter and my wallet is heavier.

Huzzah!
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post #106 of 186
10/23/10 at 3:49pm
Methinks these new MacBook Airs will be another win for Apple. Now, if only I had a spare $1000 burning a hole in my pocket. Sigh. \
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post #107 of 186
10/23/10 at 4:48pm
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Probably sell the dongle or use the MacApp store.

Then again, I believe all Macs that will be able to run 10.7 can be booted from a USB device. If that is indeed the case, then maybe just replace the DVD with USB keys for all installations.
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post #108 of 186
10/23/10 at 4:58pm
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Originally Posted by kevt View Post

That's not what the apple spec says - 11.6" stereo!

I'll be ordering a 11,6" 4Gb, 1.6GHz, 128Gb this week.

Something I'd like to know, is whether it would be possible to get an 256Gb SSD in 11.6".
Apple don't offer one as an option, but could you order a part for the 13" one, or swap one from the 13" one and transplant it to the 11.6" Air? It should be the right sort, would it fit physically?

Hmmm ... maybe I should email iFixIt about it, they've probably taken apart at least one of each by now.

I was in Apple, yesterday evening, and not only did I ask 3 different employees (i know them all, so i asked the GOOD ones.) and in addition to that the 11" only had mono, with my own 2 ears. I had the previous Air, and it was the same audio, with this model.
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post #109 of 186
10/23/10 at 6:25pm
Audio

Stereo speakers
Omnidirectional microphone
Headphone mini-jack
Support for Apple Earphones with Remote and Mic
http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/hom...co=MTM3NjY1OTU
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post #110 of 186
10/23/10 at 6:44pm
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I was in Apple, yesterday evening, and not only did I ask 3 different employees (i know them all, so i asked the GOOD ones.) and in addition to that the 11" only had mono, with my own 2 ears. I had the previous Air, and it was the same audio, with this model.

Then why does it have two speakers? (scroll down to the last picture)
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post #111 of 186
10/23/10 at 6:59pm
Love the software on a stick idea.....LOL. As slick as the rest of the machine. I too, like some others that have posted, need more power. I'm saving for an iPad but I don't have any intention of using that for such things, just email and book reading.
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post #112 of 186
10/23/10 at 7:26pm
After having handled one today, the 11", i got to admit its pretty tempting. I have a 13" MBP, but rarely use the ports or optical drive. I could definitely get by with a £30 USB DVDRW drive.

The 1.4Ghz actually performed nicely with SSD speed, I am surprised. The form-factor is super desirable.

Shame about the lack of backlit keyboard and 10hour battery
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post #113 of 186
10/23/10 at 8:18pm
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After having handled one today, the 11", i got to admit its pretty tempting.

I saw one today too. They look great. So small, so sleek.
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post #114 of 186
10/23/10 at 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post

I have to admit the Air is the one Apple product that I don't quite "get".

I never got the 13 inch one either - but the new 11 inch Air Mini is very nice. It is tiny, and gorgeous.
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post #115 of 186
10/23/10 at 8:27pm
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, an iPad could cover 99.9% of your needs .

In that case, buying a regular computer is largely a waste of money.

But if your needs are basic, I suppose it could work.
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post #116 of 186
10/23/10 at 8:42pm
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Edit: I just thought about the way the Air would sell. Going into the store and seeing their laptops. You want something portable. You see the Air 11" and think it's perfect. You look at the prices and see that it's right on par with the MB. You think you're just paying a lil extra because it's small. MB Air sold!
Could sell to people looking for just form factor instead of looking at specs.

I don't think that many Mac buyers stress over specs. I also don't think that many Mac buyers stress over paying a lil extra.
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10/23/10 at 8:52pm
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I find it funny I started a thread when the original Air came out saying 'I redesigned the MacBook Air' - with a crude mockup of the side of the machine without that trap-door, and instead a flat side with the ports in it. People here called me all sorts of names, and said I was crazy and didn't have a clue.

Then, behold; the new Air is actually like that. It feels good to be right, knowing pretty much everyone said I was dead wrong about that door. Thank you, Apple!

You're a visionary. We are but mere mortals.
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10/23/10 at 8:58pm
I like this one, much more so than the previous model. I don't get why an "Air" doesn't have an optional cellular data, like the iPad. I would think that much of its target market would be people that would jump on a built-in cellular data radio.

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Why did they leave off an optical drive? This is important to some people who view movies or listen to music.Good prices.I just bought a new MBP 13inch.

Those people can get a different model. Not every model suits everyone well, why should it? What's the point of having different models if they don't serve different niches?

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Same here, it's an obvious point. And a dissapointing choice by apple. I think screen manufacturers forced them to go this way, since the 16:9 garbage aspect (to me of course, I don't claim this universally) has become industry standard.

My gut feeling: Apple's sales volumes are such that Apple can easily request a custom run of any panel they want for negligibly more than an off the shelf. They seem to have things made for them to suit their desires.

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The issue with dragging up this thread is the Flickr account is no longer with us. Nevertheless, you'll get the point: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=84681

Where are the pictures?
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10/23/10 at 9:01pm
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Originally Posted by Dreadkid08 View Post

I like the design and I'd want the 11 inch if it were not $999. I can't justify that price for what you get


Getting what you like may be more important than paying what you like. How long will you use the machine? How much extra does it cost?

Is a few hundred bucks worth years of enjoyment? Only you can answer that.

But if you need a more powerful machine, you'll be sorry you spent the money, even if the original price seemed like a bargain. So think about it first. And get what you need and like, without stressing too much about an easily forgettable price difference.
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10/23/10 at 9:03pm
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

It's obvious: Lion will be sold on USB sticks, only.

It will not be sold on the Mac App Store by the way guys, because you need the physical medium for an OS install.

Lion will be available primarily on optical media. However there will be the USB stick version. Who here thinks the next MBP 13" will lose the disc drive? The writing is on the wall.

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I don't get it. Why would I buy an Air 11" but for the same price, I get a much better machine buying the MacBook 13"? Makes no sense to me.

Some people really do find the Macbook/Pro 13" too big and heavy. There really is a crowd that thinks so.

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Boy if you are HP, Dell, Microsoft and all the other guys. You have to be wondering, Is this ever gonna stop. NOOOO Way Man.

Apple actually just seems to be getting Started, (or Re-Started for some). Microsoft did get a Little good news though. Their best selling OS and all. They should feel all gushy about that for at least a month. Then Apple will smack them back to the cruel reality of the times.
Those aluminum machines are sure looking pretty. What was it that S. Jobs said about them, "This will change the way we think about notebooks".

Just thinking about some off the things they have rethought about lately, new AppleTV, Mac App Store, FaceTime, etc. All these things seem to be destined to do as the 3 Musketeers used to say, One for All, and All for One.

How are all those PC's supposed to compete? Be it Desktop or Laptop.

Apple is hitting them from all sides. They LOOK great. They are also at a GOOD PRICE. And then they will all WORK together as one.
And that Data Center is not being built for no reason.
You can almost hear that dastardly Jonny Ive in his Lab, playing around with that Liquid Metal stuff. Yelling, "Its mine all mine". Can't wait to see the stuff he comes up with. I am sure those PC guys can say the same too.
Also. Pretty soon Apple will start making Money (or start feeling generous). So what if they decide to bring prices down just a little bit. How many more defectors can the PC guys handle?

Apple is probably adjusting their mirror constantly, because that object they see behind them seems to keep getting smaller and smaller every day.

I like your mirror metaphor. The only thing is people are so mind-locked into the Windows way of thinking even something like the Dock scares them. They're always worried about all sorts of micromanaging things they've been whipped into thinking by MS. Where files are, how much space they're taking, how many apps are running, how to defrag, how to cleanly uninstall, etc etc. In some ways the simplicity and rationale of the Mac is Apple's own enemy. People just don't believe things can be so elegant and simple. They find it challenging, and people gravitate sometimes towards the familiar, even though they know it's possibly worse.

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I don't understand why anyone thinks 16:9 displays are a good idea on a small notebook. On a large display like an iMac, you can display documents side by side. But on a notebook, most documents are too small to read side by side. So 16:9 is only good for widescreen videos, and it doesn't give you enough vertical space to work on documents or view photographs with a portrait orientation.

I blame the netbook creators. For some reason they used 16:9 screens instead of 16:10 which is absolutely ridiculous in some ways because even viewing a web page causes you to scroll so much. But Apple going for the 11" needs screens in bulk so they have to bite the 16:9 bullet. Apple made a netbook. Brave move.
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