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Arafat videos featured on MSNBC
Keyes to show clips from documentaries available only at WND
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Posted: June 14, 2002
5:30 p.m. Eastern


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Stunning videos of Arab atrocities and violence training  which are available only on WorldNetDaily.com  will be featured Monday night on MSNBC's "Alan Keyes is Making Sense."

The entire first half-hour of Keyes' groundbreaking show, which begins at 10 p.m. Eastern, will feature clips from "Israel and the War of Images" and "The Trojan Horse." These explosive tapes, made by French film maker Pierre Rehov, contain actual footage from Palestinian Authority television documenting Yasser Arafat's call for destruction of the Jewish people and annihilation of Israel. They also document the brainwashing of Arab children with attitudes of hatred and violence toward the Jewish people.

Unique to these films is that they state no outside opinion, but merely show what is aired on Palestinian TV with translations in both French and English. Already, over 40,000 copies of these tapes have been distributed in France. Both tapes have been banned by French television, and clips from the documentaries are being aired in the United States nationwide for the first time on MSNBC. WND readers can purchase copies of both videos through our online store. WorldNetDaily.com owns sole U.S. distribution rights for both documentaries.

A third videotape, provided by Middle East Media Research Institute, also will be featured. It documents the training of Muslim men on how to "properly" beat their wives. All three tapes contain actual footage from Arab television exposing the hatred and brutality of many in the Arab community.

Keyes' second half-hour will feature Chuck Colson discussing the 30th anniversary of Watergate and his Prison Fellowship Ministry. Keyes and Colson will also talk about the massive recruitment efforts of prisoners into the Muslim faith. Colson runs a ministry that reaches into the prison system with a message of Christian faith.

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This is racist. It's racist to criticize brown people for the real things they do. Also this is obviously fabricated by the Jews to slander all of Islam, Allah be praised. Ummm lets see what else? Oh yea America is the Great Satan and OBL hates the US because its capitalist and they killed the Kyoto Accord.
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Allah be praised. Scott have seen the light.

But what do Kyoto have to do with this? I think most Arab countries are with US on that.
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Hey, get this, Scott: terrorists and people that kill civilians are SCUM! That's right, cowardly scum! This includes some hate-filled imagination-free Palestinians, even though their country is illegally occupied (cf UN Security Council Resolution 242). It also includes those people responsible for the Sabra and Shatila massacres.

Killa: have you got THAT video? Ariel's probably got it on DivX, he was there after all.

My point: this is more complex then you would wish to portray it Mika, and Scott, just save it please, because you're just plain daft.
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UN Security Council?!?

You mean the one Syria in sitting on right now? Remember Syria? Or do I need to also show you a video of how they butchered 20,000 of own citizens?

Yes, you are clever. heheh, or is it cleever?


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Yup, that's the one: the one where 160 of the 177 members of the UN General Assembly voted to elect Syria to it's membership. The one where there are 14 other members who can also vote.

The one Syria wasn't on when that resolution was passed.

The body that decides when countries are breaking the law.

Like Israel is.

And how about those massacres matey (or rather, will you admit this is more complex then you suggest)?

Got a response there?
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Yup, that's the one

Well, there you have it. When Syria, China, Russia, etc. can sit on that council and preside as judge and jury, well, you can expect these things as outcomes. Of-course I can see how you would be just fine with them being there.

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And how about those massacres matey (or rather, will you admit this is more complex then you suggest)?

What massacres are you referring to? The ones the Muslim committed on Christians, or the one that Christians committed on Muslims? Or that bogus massacre that your Arab friends tried so hard to pin on us? What's the complexity here? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />


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[quote]Originally posted by Anders:
<strong>Allah be praised. Scott have seen the light.

But what do Kyoto have to do with this? I think most Arab countries are with US on that.</strong><hr></blockquote>

NO! Terrorist are obviously smart like me because they hate the US too. It's the US's cramming globalization down people throats across the world that causes the brown non-Catholic peoples' of the world to hate them. You see anything bad that happens to the US was done for the reasons I hate the US.
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[quote]Originally posted by scott_h_phd:
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NO! Terrorist are obviously smart like me because they hate the US too. It's the US's cramming globalization down people throats across the world that causes the brown non-Catholic peoples' of the world to hate them. You see anything bad that happens to the US was done for the reasons I hate the US.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Spot on!
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KillamanDildo, you really are outdoing yourself!

Let's get this straight: you're in favour of international peace-keeping / lawmaking bodies as long as they don't include people you don't like? Oh by the way, as I mentioned above, there are 15 countries on that body. Like the US.

The complexity, twatface, is the one where you'd have us believe that the ragheads are intent on killing anyone that isn't a raghead themselves, as proved by (say) suicide bombings in Israel ... but where you forget that Israeli illegal occupation of another country may be something to do with any ... erm ... bad will towards Israel. But Israel is above international law as you've made plain, so it doesn't count and you have no idea why the Palestinians are so upset. Must be because they're ragheads intent on killing yadda yadda yadda.

You're not 100% in the right. And you pretend you are, hence it's more complex.

And that little massacre in Sabla? A 1983 Israeli Commission of Inquiry found that Sharon bore "personal responsibility" for the death of hundreds of innocent civilians ...

The Jews pinned that one on you, not the Arabs.

Do you want some links, little man

[EDIT: Oh go on, have some links anyway]

Maybe this one, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/newsid_1381000/1381328.stm" target="_blank">from the BBC</a> ... but they're liars now aren't they, so try my favourite, which is <a href="http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0ign0" target="_blank">this one</a> - the official transcript on a .gov.il server.

This is too easy.

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[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
<strong>KillamanDildo, you really are outdoing yourself!
................... hence it's more complex......And that little massacre in Sabla? A 1983 Israeli Commission of Inquiry found that Sharon bore "personal responsibility" for the death of hundreds of innocent civilians ...

The Jews pinned that one on you, not the Arabs.

Do you want some links, little man?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No matey you are outdoing yourself. Sabra and Shatila was a massacre performed by Christian Arabs against Muslim Arabs it was just one massacre in a long list of such things Arabs were doing to other arabs in lebanon during that country's civil war, Mronite Christians, Druz, Shiate Muslims, Palestinians ... and lot other were all killing each other wholesale during Lebanon's civil war (lasted for may years).. check your facts first....

By your logic a large part of the ex dutch government is responsible to the Srebrenica massacre since their troops were there, were supposed to defend these people and even disarmed them before the Bosnian Serbs went in and killed over 5000 men. the dutch government was found responsible and had resigned just a few months ago.
Now, Sharon was in a very similar situation he was the politician responsible for the area where the massacre took place he was found to be responsible for his bad judgment and has resigned his position in government . It took him over 15 years to get back to the mainstream of Israeli politics.

What's the difference ?

The dutch ex-PM Wim Kok did his bit, resigned, then went on to elections untainted ,and does not carry any substantial stain on his reputation nor is he constantly being blamed for being a war criminal like Sharon is.

Why should Israel be treated in the International community any different then Holland ? does this not strike you as an example of double standards ? especialy when you have MEGA butchers like Syria and China at the security council. who are they to preach to Israel ?

Just as you say you're not 100% in the right. And you pretend you are, hence it's more complex.


And just to get back to the main point, sure Israel has done lots of s*** in many cases.... any country does... but
that does not allow you to climb on some moral high rock and blame people for things they haven't done or twist the facts .
By all means, criticize Israel for the real negatives but don't go throwing accusations around without recourse to the facts...

Wasn't the example of the warped Jenin story enough for you ?

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you're in favour of international peace-keeping / lawmaking bodies

When? Never. This is a bilateral issue between Jews and Arabs. And Israel has always maintained that.

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Israeli illegal occupation of another country

How is it an illegal occupation of another country? What country? Jordan? Egypt?

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But Israel is above international law as you've made plain

Absolutely! Just because a law is a law, does not necessarily make it right, or just. If you say otherwise you are even dumber then I already take you for.

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Palestinians are so upset

Palestinians?!? Since when? How long since that myth has been created? They certainly werent Palestinians when Jordan was ruling those areas from 1947-1967, or when that land was under other Islamic rulers. Man, you really swallowed their propaganda fairly nicely.

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You're not 100% in the right.

Yes, I am.

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And that little massacre in Sabla? A 1983 Israeli Commission of Inquiry found that Sharon bore "personal responsibility" for the death of hundreds of innocent civilians ...

You mean Sabra? Well, they found DM Sharon partially culpable. In the same way they would have found NATO leaders partially culpable for the ethnic cleaning in Yugoslavia. So if you want to go ahead and call the NATO leaders who had nothing to do with the massacres war criminals, responsible for these crimes, go ahead. Youll not be impressing me here, nor anyone else.

If you knew anything about Israeli politics, you would know that the tribunal was a politically motivated Bolshevist witch-hunt, orchestrated by the Israeli left wing to send DM Sharon into political exile. Theyve tried similar tricks on other right wing politicians, such as Netanyahu.

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Do you want some links, little man?

Heres a link for you. And stop talking all this non-sense.

<a href="http://www.jpost.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/Full&cid=1023716491575" target="_blank">http://www.jpost.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/Full&cid=1023716491575</a>


Jun. 16, 2002
No peace until the rule of law prevails BY AMNON LORD

A common term circulating among journalists, left-wing intellectuals in Europe and at the UN is "illegal occupation." This abstraction, favored by the likes of UN Human Rights Commissioner Mary Robinson, is somehow supposed to do the miracle of legalizing the mass murder of Jews in Israel by Muslim terrorist organizations.

Every Palestinian propagandist then adds: "There will be no peace as long as the occupation continues."

Whether called "the occupation" or "the illegal occupation," it's about time this piece of lying propaganda was exposed.

The legal situation, recognized by the international community, is that the State of Israel is sovereign over the entire area of the West Bank, or Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. Since the Oslo Accords there has been a gradual transference of power in this disputed territory to the Palestinian Authority, which was created by the accords. The territory was divided into areas where Israel holds security responsibility, and areas where the PA holds this responsibility.

More than 95 % of Palestinian Arabs are subject to PA rule. As Foreign Minister Shimon Peres said in October 1995 after signing Oslo 2 : "The occupation has ended; we no longer rule another people."

The UN and world community accepted that the Six Day War was a war of self-defense. This is important because in UN Resolution 242 from Nov. 1967, Israel's right to hold onto the territories captured in that war was accepted until peace agreements were reached between Israel and its Arab enemies.

There was no expectation that Israel would transfer those territories to an enemy who would turn them into a new launching ground for military or terrorist aggression against Israel.
Moreover, the legal history of the "West Bank" gives Israel a lawful claim to sovereignty over the entire land from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan river.

Jordanian rule over this territory was never recognized by the international community. Indeed, the British Mandate allocated it for Jewish development, eventually to become a Jewish state. This was ratified by The League of Nations in 1922 and 1923.

After World War I, prestigious statesmen like the great Thomas Masaryk declared that if the war's only result was the creation of a Jewish state it would be some consolation for the terrible bloodshed.

Since then there has been yet another world war, followed by the establishment of the United Nations; but the Partition Plan of Nov. 1947 did not abolish those earlier international commitments, especially since the Arabs rejected them.

THE REAL change that took place after World War II was that war itself was criminalized. The UN Charter clearly states (Article 2.4) that the use of force or the threat of force is prohibited, making any form of aggression toward a member state a criminal act.

War is not recognized as having any legal status. Moreover, the Vienna Convention of 1969 made any international agreement signed under the threat of violence, or as a result of its use, illegal.

It is precisely this new stipulation of international law that the diabolical propaganda propagated by the Arabs and the Palestinians seeks to hide from public opinion. The entire campaign of incessant talk about "the occupation" is designed to justify the crime of maintaining an illegal state of war with Israel for more than 54 years.

The Arabs have managed to instill in the mind of the world community the idea that war is a natural condition of the relationship between the Arabs and the State of Israel. They have succeeded so brilliantly that despite their ongoing crime of maintaining war against Israel, it is Israel that is expected to make concessions to the aggressors if it aspires to live in the peace that was its birthright to begin with.

The Palestinians' current campaign follows in the tradition of the Arab states since 1948: No matter what agreement is being signed, the state of war is preserved. Any claim they may have, any demand, justifies continuing the aggression against Israel.

The current cycle of Arab aggression against Israel has taken the form of a systematic offensive of massacres against our civilian population.

Many European public figures and even UN institutions such as the Committee for Human Rights are collaborating in and supporting this crime against humanity. And since they must be aware of the atrocities being committed against Israelis, they hide their consciences behind the abstract phrase "illegal occupation."

The fact of the matter is that the enclaves of terrorism established in the areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority reflect the essence of the PLO regime complete absence of the rule of law.


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[quote]You're not 100% in the right.

Yes, I am.
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I don't think we're going to get very far here.

By the way, this type of thinking is going to get you killed. Not a threat, as I actually deplore violence and I'd be defending you first, but I don't think you're solving this one without compromise fellah.

Thanks for the link, a hilarious document. I link to an official document on an Israeli government server, you link to this:

[quote]Every Palestinian propagandist then adds: "There will be no peace as long as the occupation continues."

Whether called "the occupation" or "the illegal occupation," it's about time this piece of lying propaganda was exposed.<hr></blockquote>

Please note: "the occupation" is a term of lying propaganda.

[quote]The legal situation, recognized by the international community, is that the State of Israel is sovereign over the entire area of the West Bank, or Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. Since the Oslo Accords there has been a gradual transference of power in this disputed territory to the Palestinian Authority, which was created by the accords. The territory was divided into areas where Israel holds security responsibility, and areas where the PA holds this responsibility.

More than 95 % of Palestinian Arabs are subject to PA rule. As Foreign Minister Shimon Peres said in October 1995 after signing Oslo 2 : "The occupation has ended; we no longer rule another people."<hr></blockquote>

Shimon Peres, hardened lying propagandist for the PLO and fellow-travellers. Sigh. You're not going to get it.

Good luck Mika, with an attitude like yours you're absolutely doomed to an endless cycle of death.

See ya.
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