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Rumors that Bill Gates secretly uses a MacBook are not true, as Apple products never breach his doorstep, according to his wife. Meanwhile, the iPad is emerging as a staple in Hollywood. And Apple has joined Google and others in attempting to have a lawsuit by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen thrown out of court.

Apple products in Gates household

Melinda Gates, wife of Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, has acknowledged that's she's a bit envious of her iPhone-wielding friends. But as she told Vogue in an interview last year, Apple's handheld devices are a forbidden fruit in her household.

"There are very few things that are on the banned list in our household," she said. "But iPods and iPhones are two things we don't get for our kids."

You can now add the rest of Apple's product line to the list. The philanthropist and former Microsoft unit manager told the New York Times Magazine this week that rumors that her husband Bill uses an Apple notebook behind closed doors are "False," adding that "nothing [from Apple] "crosses the threshold of our doorstep."

iPads are similarly off limits and when one of her three children recently argued, Mom, I have to have an iPod" she responded with "You may have a Zune.

iPads in Hollywood

Meanwhile, the Times also recently ran a profile of the iPad's growing popularity in Hollywood, noting that it's "the must-carry accessory on sound stages this season, visible behind the scenes of television and film shoots and in business meetings."

For example, Bob Orci, one of the writers working on the sequel to last year's blockbuster "Star Trek," kicked off a recent meeting with his co-writer and three producers by whipping out his iPad to show off movie stills, potential scene locations, and a photo of a prospective actress that he had edited on the tablet to sport a Vulcan ear.

When youre carrying a little TV around, you bring the power of imagery to places that you dont normally have it, Orci said.

The report also notes that Apple products have turned up about 2,438 times on television programs through this September, amounting to a wealth of free advertising for the Cupertino-based company, including recent iPad stints on "The Office," Modern Family, Fast Money," and Fox & Friends.

At the same time, the Apple tablet is being put to work backstage, where actors and actresses using specially designed apps, like Rehearsal, are using it to help them learn their lines ahead of each shoot.

Lawsuit update

In other news, Apple last week joined Google, Facebook, Yahoo and 7 other tech heavyweights in attempting to persuade a judge to dismiss infringement charges lodged back in August by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen over four patents he controls from his now-defunct Silicon Valley laboratory Interval Research Corp.

"Interval has sued eleven major corporations and made the same bald assertions that each defendant infringes 197 claims in four patents," Apple wrote in an October 21st motion. "As the U.S. Supreme Court noted in Twombly, it is in this type of situation in which courts should use their 'power to insist upon some specificity in pleading before allowing a potentially massive factual controversy to proceed.'"

Allen's suit specifically references the following four patents:
United States Patent No. 6,263,507 issued for an invention entitled "Browser for Use in Navigating a Body of Information, With Particular Application to Browsing Information Represented By Audiovisual Data."
United States Patent No. 6,034,652 issued for an invention entitled "Attention Manager for Occupying the Peripheral Attention of a Person in the Vicinity of a Display Device."
United States Patent No. 6,788,314 issued for an invention entitled "Attention Manager for Occupying the Peripheral Attention of a Person in the Vicinity of a Display Device."
United States Patent No. 6,757,682 issued for an invention entitled "Alerting Users to Items of Current Interest."
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I don't think that Apple is getting free advertisement from all the shows and movies. Sometimes it's strategically done. Product placements are always for sale in any kind of entertainment show or movie. Apple would spend more money on product placements than actual ads on tv.
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There are a lot of things that children growing up may find uncool about their parents but your dad co-founding the one-of-the-most-successful-companies-ever, the one that's not cool, has to be a new one.
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Rumors that Bill Gates secretly uses an MacBook are not true, as Apple products never breach his doorstep, according to his wife.

What a silly and narrow minded attitude to take. At least he always made sure his R & D department had everything Apple ever produced to they could get a clue as to what to do next.
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Why does AI insist in often grouping different topics into one post. This ultimately makes the thread really disjointed. This post is really three topics.
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"Attention Manager for Occupying the Peripheral Attention of a Person in the Vicinity of a Display Device."

I guess Allen was instrumental in making sure Windows always has at least one dialog box open to keep you from working and guaranteed to annoy the hell out of you.
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The Zune is so bad even Bill Gates' kids are asking for an iPod. What does that tell you?
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Melinda Gates, wife of Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, has acknowledged that's she's a bit envious of her iPhone-wielding friends. But as she told Vogue in an interview last year, Apple's handheld devices are a forbidden fruit in her household.

"There are very few things that are on the banned list in our household," she said. "But iPods and iPhones are two things we don't get for our kids."

Doesn't this logic usually backfire in parenting and make them want the forbidden product all the more? I thought Apple products were also banned at Steve Balmer's house too...

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The title should've read: Gates rejects all innovative technologies in his household.
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The Zune is so bad even Bill Gates' kids are asking for an iPod. What does that tell you?

OK, two words apply here: Child abuse.

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Mom, I have to have an iPod" she responded with "You may have a Zune.

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And Steve Jobs isn't narrow minded when it comes to his products. Are you kidding me? Steve Jobs makes an extra effort to bash others.

Steve Jobs complemented Microsoft several times on their success, he even complemented Gates during TV shows. But like a true artist he criticized Microsoft's lack of creativity.

Gates on the otherhand, never complemented Steve or Apple on any of their accomplishments after releasing Windows.
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I actually think the current Zune HD is a pretty nice piece of hardware - take a look at a current-gen unit if yo haven't seen one in a while. That doesn't mean that I will be switching from my iPhone/Touch any time soon because I have a lot of time and money invested in iTunes Store purchases, and we are an all-Mac household.

Unfortunately Microsoft got to the "pretty nice piece of hardware" stage about 2 years too late to really be a competitor in the game for the high-end.


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The Zune is so bad even Bill Gates' kids are asking for an iPod. What does that tell you?
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"Rumors that Bill Gates secretly uses an MacBook are not true, as Apple products never breach his doorstep, according to his wife."

Apparently, rumors that Apple Insider uses the correct article before a noun are not true either.
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And Steve Jobs isn't narrow minded when it comes to his products. Are you kidding me? Steve Jobs makes an extra effort to bash others.

There was no discussion about 'bashing' it was about actually using them. Steve Jobs is savvy enough to not only use PCs running Windows but had OS X running on them in secret prior to the move to Intel. MS have a division creating Mac apps as Apple have a expertise in BootCamp and running Windows.

As I said, to shut ones self off from your opposition's products is narrow minded. Not to mention kind of cruel in this particular case, denying kids an iPod and insisting they use a Zune. Imagine the mocking they got!
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The title should've read: Gates rejects all innovative technologies in his household.

To be fair it is the wife it seems not Bill. I bet he has a secret iPad in his den
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The Gates' kids are also not allowed to use Google or own a portable gaming device.
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Meanwhile, the Times also recently ran a profile of the iPad's growing popularity in Hollywood, noting that it's "the must-carry accessory on sound stages this season, visible behind the scenes of television and film shoots and in business meetings.

Im seeing them a lot in TV shows, and not in an advertisement aspect either, often shrouded and used as they would use any other piece of tech as a prop.


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Why does AI insist in often grouping different topics into one post. This ultimately makes the thread really disjointed. This post is really three topics.

I like it. These are stories that arent robust enough to carry their own thread. Plus, just as Im doing now Im responding to multiple posters and topics in the same post, and we do this anyway as Cretins Law ensues.


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And Steve Jobs isn't narrow minded when it comes to his products. Are you kidding me? Steve Jobs makes an extra effort to bash others.

Jobs is very vocal about he thinks is good or bad for the company he runs to support, but I dont think he would disallow anyone to use a MS product. In fact, this last event on Wednesday someone on stage pimped MS Office for Mac while there was no mention of iWork during the event. Also, I would bet money that Jobs has Blu-ray in his home. Its not a good for a consumer notebook, but its great for a home entertainment system, especially Pixar films.
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Have you ever used a Zune? Do you even know if its bad of what it has to offer? What it tells me is most kids have iPods and even with their wealth they simply want to be like their friends have have iPods so they can fit in. Thats all it tells me.

Yes, i have used a Zune HD, and I threw it away after a week...what a feeble ipod knock off. The UI is horrible...everythign scrolls off the screen to the right. the Zune Marketplace software crashed several times and there are next to no apps for it. the audio quality is sup par. Everytime i used it i thought about my iPhone and my old ipod. After a week, i could not stand it, and i bought i new ipod touch to complement my iphone 4.

Alls your post tells me is you work for Microsoft or one of their "partners".
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You might want to read some of the latest articles here about his latest rant on Google and RIM. Which is common for Steve Jobs.

I read them, again he criticized creativity and functionality.

I was at the Sony store this weekend to tryout the new Sony/Google TV since I was a little disappointed with Apple's new ATV. The Sony/Google TV sucked big time!! It was very slow, very confusing, and repeatedly crashed.

Unlike many technology CEO's who blast Apple and SJ for innovative products while blatantly copying them, Steve's criticism are mostly valid because these same CEO's don't seem to have the know-how to harness creativity and innovation in their companies.
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Have you ever used a Zune? Do you even know if its bad of what it has to offer? What it tells me is most kids have iPods and even with their wealth they simply want to be like their friends have have iPods so they can fit in. Thats all it tells me.


Indeed...

Or, Have you ever talked to that kid? Do you even know if the son of the wealthiest tech guy in the world doesn't know what an iPod and Zune have to offer? People hammer their own opinions into topics whilst pointing out that others shouldn't be doing what they are doing. That's all this tells me.
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Why does AI insist in often grouping different topics into one post. This ultimately makes the thread really disjointed. This post is really three topics.

As opposed to our normally off topic and disjointed threads? \
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Doesn't Microsoft still make software for Mac? It would seem that Gates would have a MacBook for no other reason than to support one of his biggest software partners.
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Why does AI insist in often grouping different topics into one post. This ultimately makes the thread really disjointed. This post is really three topics.

It's called ... "It's Monday morning and we haven't had anything new up since that lame Veizon story two days ago! Put something up quick! Anything !!!!"
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When Apple locks down Mac OS X (and we all know they will), there will be no Macs in my household either.

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It must suck to be the richest kid in town, yet unable to get the coolest toys

Enjoy your kin!!!
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Does he still have a Mac in his office, at least? (Look over his shoulder.)
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It must suck to be the richest kid in town, yet unable to get the coolest toys

Enjoy your kin!!!

Man that is harsh, funny, but harsh.
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post #28 of 127
That's ok. OS/2 Warp is banned from my household.
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Wow! Being a Gates child is worse than being a poor starving child in Africa. At least the poor starving children in Africa are getting 1st generation iPhones now.

If I were a Gates child, I would contact Steve and see how much money I could get for filming an iPod ad.
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Why does AI insist in often grouping different topics into one post.

In the news business, they're called news briefs for the obvious reason that they're not big enough to stand alone. I appreciate AI's saving me from wasting clicks to links with tiny stories.
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Have you ever used a Zune? Do you even know if its bad of what it has to offer? What it tells me is most kids have iPods and even with their wealth they simply want to be like their friends have have iPods so they can fit in. Thats all it tells me.

Yes I have. ZUNE HD I find to be a good device. What you said is exactly my point.

If MS marketed the Zune the way Apple does the iPods it might actually have a chance. I haven't even seen a single advertisement of the Zune.
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And Steve Jobs isn't narrow minded when it comes to his products. Are you kidding me? Steve Jobs makes an extra effort to bash others.

Except SJ is right. The strength of the products his company makes renders such complaints about him null and void. When it comes to tech, the man knows his ish. Let him bash others all he wants. The shoddy, lazy competition deserves all the ribbing they get.
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Steve Jobs complemented Microsoft....

...complimented...
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Doesn't Microsoft still make software for Mac? It would seem that Gates would have a MacBook for no other reason than to support one of his biggest software partners.

Not in his home. Even when he actively working for MS there would have been no reason to keep them in his home.


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When Apple locks down Mac OS X (and we all know they will), there will be no Macs in my household either.

No, we all dont know that because we all dont succumb to sky is falling conspiracies. Based on yours and others' theories Apple should have dropped Macs completely from their product line by now to focus only on iDevices.
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post #35 of 127
Someone should remember the words of the Wise One.
"We have to get out of the notion that in order for Apple to succeed, we have to have Microsoft
fail".

Don't be mean to your kids. Let them decide what it is they want. Show Apple some Love.

That doesn't mean they won.
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When Apple locks down Mac OS X (and we all know they will), there will be no Macs in my household either.

That's never going to happen. Apple maybe a lot of things but they're not that stupid to go that far. They know the backlash that could result. They don't have to lockdown the Mac, the Mac App Store will eventually be the only place regular casual Mac users will know how to get Mac apps.

I read an article last week at the Back to Mac event where in Jobs said that "not at this time" when he was asked if Apple would allow other ways (besides the App Store) for users to download apps to iOS device. He didn't flat out say NO. So now that people are so used to going to the App Store to get apps that Apple might eventually allow other alternatives to getting apps and that it wouldn't really hurt the App Store.

But then again everything remains to be seen. It might or may not happen.
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When Apple locks down Mac OS X (and we all know they will), there will be no Macs in my household either.

Amen!
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Big deal. I don't allow any of their "stuff" in my house. That goes both hardware and software wise.

All I can say is, if she wants her kids to grow up with technology that is 5 years out of date and copies of other companies stuff, fine with me.

As for the Gates "feeling the need" to help other people. What a laugh. Bill Gates is buying his place in history just like all the robber barons of the 18th and 19th and 20th centuries. It's nothing more than that. The rest is BS.
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How do you have a patent on "Alerting Users to Items of Current Interest"?
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Does he still have a Mac in his office, at least? (Look over his shoulder.)

that pose is somewhat disturbing.. but wow where did you get that picture of a mac in Bill's office?
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