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The AndySons have been pronounced guilty!!<a href="http://money.cnn.com/2002/06/13/news/andersen_verdict/index.htm" target="_blank">Guilty</a>

This is very big and HAPPY news for me. I work in a large company that has in the past used these aholes.
post #2 of 10
The only Ahole in this thread is you, ya clueless bastard. 95% of the people who work in that firm are dedicated, ethical people who know their profession backwards and forwards. At a minimum, a much larger proportion of AA professionals fit that description than most other huge companies. Yours included.

Get a fvcking clue. Why were they aholes? Did one of their consultants maybe expose one of your ideas or pet projects as wasteful or otherwise useless? I wouldn't be surprised. Dumbass.

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post #3 of 10
I fail to see how this can be good news when 1000s of people in the US and abroad may loose their jobs.

J :cool:
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Not to mention their reputations. There are thousands of good people now, who have done their jobs exceedingly well, who are almost afraid to put "Arthur Andersen" on their resume for fear of the stigma that the media whores have produced.
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I don't get it Moogs - if they're criminals, shouldn't they be punished? People often cheer when murderers are put away. Is it because it's white collar that makes it sympathetic?
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B:

It's because the conviction is a blanket statement that affects the livlihood and reputation of tens of thousands of employees who had not a thing to do with this and have never done anything like this.

Should the 8 or 10 managers and partners responsible for looking the other way / ordering the shredding be punished? Hell yes, minimum security prison time. Lot's of it. They can bunk with all their Enron cronies. Oh but wait, nothing will happen to the guys at Enron - even though they ruined the retirement plans and livlihoods of thousands of their employees all in order to stash some extra cash for their own personal accounts.

No, can't have that. George to the rescue.

This whole thing WREAKS of favoritism towards Enron and a smear campaign against what has historically been the most ethical and reputable firm among the former Big Six. It stinks - badly.


Xidius:
Obstruction of Justice as related to a Federal Investigation of Enron.

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post #7 of 10
I agree with Moogs. He's got the right idea.
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While I have a lot of sympathy for those at A.A. who are honest and do have integrity I can't say I'm unhappy with the verdict. An awful lot of people have helped lower the standards of the Accounting Proffession and even more have stayed quiet while it's happened. I just hope this helps raise ethical standards for the whole industry.
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[quote] This whole thing WREAKS of favoritism towards Enron and a smear campaign against what has historically been the most ethical and reputable firm among the former Big Six. It's stinks - badly.<hr></blockquote>If this verdict takes the place of further court proceedings against those suspected of being guilty at ENRON then I would agree with you . . . but if it is merely part of a larger cleaning-of-house then they deserve what they get .

besides, if they are guilty then they deserve to serve.... for aiding criminals: and the question really is, if ENRON and gang had robbed people on the streets and taken the same amount of money that they basically stole from their workers, would it finally be something that people could recognize for the crime it was?

I mean, is it their suites and ties and their wealth that makes us think they are above common criminals?

And just another thing: when the rolling blackouts were happeningg there were many on these boards that KNEW that they were a direct result of DEREGULATION . . . but we simply got shuttled aside by those that are blinded from seeing corporate criminal activity as a real thing. AND, when it was finally revealed that ENRON had a direct role in these rolling blackouts and false energy crisis nobody said anything!!!
now I wonder why that is?
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EnWrong execs should be having their asses handed to them on a silver platter right now by the Justice Department. Why aren't they? Look who heads up the Justice Department and who put him there. Like I said, George to the rescue.

It's horsesh*t - all the way. "Uhhhh, we'd politely encourage everyone in congress and other government investigative bodies to ignore what's in our documents and what we said during those conversations with Enron execs. It uhhh, it could be a matter of national security?"

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