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Apple changes multitasking bar, MobileMe login in iOS 4.2 GM; asks for iOS 4.2 apps from developers

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Subtle changes to iOS 4.2 in the Golden Master released to developers Monday include the addition of volume controls and an AirPlay button to the multitasking bar and an option to access MobileMe with an Apple ID. Meanwhile, developers can now submit their iOS 4.2 apps to Apple for review.

Apple seeded the Golden Master version of its iOS 4.2 software to developers Monday, bringing the update one step closer to public release. iOS 4.2, which Chief Executive Steve Jobs demoed in September, contains several new features, including AirPlay wireless media streaming and AirPrint wireless printing. At that time, Jobs announced that iOS 4.2 would be released in November; Apple appears to be on schedule, as the Golden Master release is usually the final version before release.

The time between a Golden Master release and public release for versions of iOS 4 has ranged from 1-2 weeks. The GM candidate of iOS 4.0 was seeded on June 7 with the public release coming two weeks later on June 21, while the GM of iOS 4.1 was released to developers a week before the Sept. 8 release date.

According to MacRumors, the multi-tasking bar in iOS 4.2 now includes a volume slider and the expected AirPlay button, in addition to the pre-existing orientation lock button, playback controls, brightness slider, and iPod icon.

Screenshot by Dean Ostetto

Another change came in the switch from a MobileMe login to an Apple ID login for the MobileMe account setup settings in iOS 4.2. Given that MobileMe doesn't currently accept Apple ID logins, the change prompted speculation that Apple could allow iOS users access to some of MobileMe's features, although the change might only indicate that Apple is trying to link Apple IDs with MobileMe accounts.



In preparation for the release of iOS 4.2, Apple posted a message to its official developer site Monday, notifying developers that they can now "build, test, and compile [their] apps using the iOS SDK 4.2 GM seed, then submit them for review so they can be ready when iOS 4.2 is available to iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch users."

Previously, developers could only submit apps for the current version of iOS. The release of iOS 4.2 is particularly noteworthy, as it will be the first time that the iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad will concurrently run the same version of iOS and marks the iPad's transition to iOS 4.

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eagerly waiting to update my iPhone 4 and iPad to 4.2...

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hey thats my iPad screenshot you got from Mac Rumors... how about some photo cred \
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I'm wondering if this will finally allow all hi rez iPhone apps to finally appear on my iPad in 960x640 rather than the 480x340 that they still appear in now.
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It is good that Apple released it today. I've submitted my iPad app Thursday using 3.2.1 SDK. I removed it from the queue tonight and recompile it using 4.2 SDK. This way users will have the fast app switching feature.
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Only a couple more weeks left till the iOS 4.2 update! hope they release by next week.
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Will this fix the DST alarm bug?
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Will this fix the DST alarm bug?

Yes, as reported a couple of weeks ago.
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  • The DST bug is fixed.
  • New SMS tones added (would have been better if you could add your own custom ones if you ask me)
  • Voice memos has a new icon
  • Ability to enable ringer/alert tone volume changes with the hardware buttons
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I've always used my same user and pass for MobileMe (and also since .Mac and iTools days) and my Apple ID, I wasn't even aware this was unusual.
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One can only hope.

As to the developers out there are we faster or slower on iPhone, esPecially older iPhones? I suppose that is a good question for iPad owners too. I'm really hoping Apple has removed some of the performance issues from the previous release so we can milk a little more life from our devices.
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I've always used my same user and pass for MobileMe (and also since .Mac and iTools days) and my Apple ID, I wasn't even aware this was unusual.

The point is that this appears to be account unification and consolidation, sort of like linking your YouTube account to your Google account. Moving to a single sign-in is worth noting.
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Will this unbreak the iPhone 4.1, iPad 3.2.2 jailbreak?
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Will this unbreak the iPhone 4.1, iPad 3.2.2 jailbreak?

If i had to put money on it, i would say definitely.
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Ugh, when i saw 'update to multitasking bar' i was so hoping they added a "quit all applications" button/feature.
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I can't wait until OS 4.2 comes out because it's likely that means there will finally be grey market Apple TVs in Hong Kong.
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I've always used my same user and pass for MobileMe (and also since .Mac and iTools days) and my Apple ID, I wasn't even aware this was unusual.

Me too
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Ugh, when i saw 'update to multitasking bar' i was so hoping they added a "quit all applications" button/feature.

Why? Most applications are not actually running in the background. Only audio playback, GPS, or VoIP apps are allowed to keep a process "running" continuously. Everything else is essentially in a frozen state as soon as you switch out of it (or shortly thereafter).
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hey thats my iPad screenshot you got from Mac Rumors... how about some photo cred \

Wouldn't be bragging about that as 4.2 is still under NDA
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Why? Most applications are not actually running in the background. Only audio playback, GPS, or VoIP apps are allowed to keep a process "running" continuously. Everything else is essentially in a frozen state as soon as you switch out of it (or shortly thereafter).

To continue on with your point in an attempt to make it even more clear The apps you see in Fast App Switching are not necessarily running in the background. These are just the last apps you had active on your screen listed in descending chronological order from left to right.
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I've always used my same user and pass for MobileMe (and also since .Mac and iTools days) and my Apple ID, I wasn't even aware this was unusual.

No, but what is unusual (or at least odd) is the fact that I tried to update my Apple ID to my MobileMe address and was unable to. Apparently this is not allowed despite the assertion in this article that Apple is trying to somehow merge these.

I was able to go to http://myinfo.apple.com/ and modify my Apple ID to be a simple login name. It's odd now seeing me logged into iTunes using a login name that does not include an email address...
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I just want to airplay Angry Birds on my 52" TV, is that too much to ask?
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I just want to airplay Angry Birds on my 52" TV, is that too much to ask?

That game drives me nuts. I tell myself this is the last round but if I don’t get all the pigs they laugh and smile in this smug way that makes me have to play again. The only good pig is a dead pig.
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No, but what is unusual (or at least odd) is the fact that I tried to update my Apple ID to my MobileMe address and was unable to. Apparently this is not allowed despite the assertion in this article that Apple is trying to somehow merge these.

I was able to go to http://myinfo.apple.com/ and modify my Apple ID to be a simple login name. It's odd now seeing me logged into iTunes using a login name that does not include an email address...

I wish Apple would let you merge an old Apple I.D. with Mobile Me. I have an old Apple I.D. that runs off a Gmail account that is no longer active. I dislike having to sign in with two I.D.'s to find update for my apps.
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To continue on with your point in an attempt to make it even more clear The apps you see in Fast App Switching are not necessarily running in the background. These are just the last apps you had active on your screen listed in descending chronological order from left to right.

I dont think it matters that they are not running processes. It is a pain in the but to clear them out one-by-one. I think for the sake of reducing clutter in the multitasking bar, it would be great to have a "Clear All" button or at least limit the bar to keeping the last 8-10 apps there, and make this number user defineable in the prefs. If you dont periodically clear them out, there is a long list of apps in the multitasking bar, hence makes it very inconvenient to have to scroll through them all to find the one you want.
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I dont think it matters that they are not running processes. It is a pain in the but to clear them out one-by-one. I think for the sake of reducing clutter in the multitasking bar, it would be great to have a "Clear All" button or at least limit the bar to keeping the last 8-10 apps there, and make this number user defineable in the prefs. If you dont periodically clear them out, there is a long list of apps in the multitasking bar, hence makes it very inconvenient to have to scroll through them all to find the one you want.

You’ve missed the point. It’s not a “Multitasking Bar” it’s the “Fast App Switcher”. The list of icons are not all running in the background, using your RAM and slowing your device down. There is no reason to want to remove them all unless you a) still don’t understand the purpose of Fast App Switching, or b) are anal retentive. I suggest just not using the Fast App Switcher since each app you use will end up in that list in the order in which you last used it which makes your point about only listing the last 8-10 moot since that’s by design the first apps you’ll see when you access the feature and start scrolling.
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Youve missed the point. Its not a Multitasking Bar its the Fast App Switcher. The list of icons are not all running in the background, using your RAM and slowing your device down. There is no reason to want to remove them all unless you a) still dont understand the purpose of Fast App Switching, or b) are anal retentive. I suggest just not using the Fast App Switcher since each app you use will end up in that list in the order in which you last used it which makes your point about only listing the last 8-10 moot since thats by design the first apps youll see when you access the feature and start scrolling.

Exactly.

Now the situation would be different if the beginning and end of that list looped around to each other. But they don't. When you get to the end of the list, it just ends. It doesn't loop back to the beginning.

Hence there is no reason not to make the entire list of most recently used apps available. If someone doesn't want to see the 25th to 28th most recently used apps, they simply don't scroll to the 7th screen of apps.

With that said, I can't imagine a purpose for needing to see apps that far back. But removing it would be pointlessly obfuscating.
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Youve missed the point. Its not a Multitasking Bar its the Fast App Switcher. The list of icons are not all running in the background, using your RAM and slowing your device down. There is no reason to want to remove them all unless you a) still dont understand the purpose of Fast App Switching, or b) are anal retentive. I suggest just not using the Fast App Switcher since each app you use will end up in that list in the order in which you last used it which makes your point about only listing the last 8-10 moot since thats by design the first apps youll see when you access the feature and start scrolling.

I agree not to worry about the bar. It's up to the app to let you know if there will be an issue. If an app, for example, a navigation app is consuming battery in background, there is a chance that you want it closed. If TomTom app is not active, but still in use, it warns you with a alert box that allows you to close it if you feel you don't need it anymore.
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What about Find My iPhone multiple user functionality?

I still find it funny that I can run Find My iPhone...on my iPhone.

My wife also has Mobile Me and it would be cool if I could punch in her Apple ID to find out where she's at. (But she should add me to an approved finders' list on her end, however.)

Such a feature would make that show 'Cheaters' much more appealing. And do away with having to hire a PI. Not that I would know.
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Ugh, when i saw 'update to multitasking bar' i was so hoping they added a "quit all applications" button/feature.

Hopefully Apple "a quit all applications feature" somewhere in the update as its annoying to close these to save battery power.
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What about Find My iPhone multiple user functionality?

I still find it funny that I can run Find My iPhone...on my iPhone.

My wife also has Mobile Me and it would be cool if I could punch in her Apple ID to find out where she's at. (But she should add me to an approved finders' list on her end, however.)

Such a feature would make that show 'Cheaters' much more appealing. And do away with having to hire a PI. Not that I would know.

Are you asking for a Find My iPhone update that will allow you to input other peoples IDs and passwords so you can keep tabs on them at all times? Would you really want to lose your iPhone and then use someone elses device to input your ID so you can locate your phone in a pinch, then wonder if your username and password was now saved on their device? I wouldnt.


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Hopefully Apple "a quit all applications feature" somewhere in the update as its annoying to close these to save battery power.

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"I popped a pig... and I liked it."

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What about Find My iPhone multiple user functionality?

I still find it funny that I can run Find My iPhone...on my iPhone.

My wife also has Mobile Me and it would be cool if I could punch in her Apple ID to find out where she's at. (But she should add me to an approved finders' list on her end, however.)

Such a feature would make that show 'Cheaters' much more appealing. And do away with having to hire a PI. Not that I would know.

To add the capability you request (i.e. easily enter some other MobileMe account) could obviously be exploited in the way you describe and Apple would likely view that as an action that they would rather not be "enablers" for.

In our household, we simply use the same MobileMe account for all of our mobile devices (three iPhones and two iPads). So I can locate any one of them from any of the others. And might I add that I have informed the other family members about the capability on their devices as well, so that there's not this concept of me being able to track them (without their knowledge) and them not being able to do likewise. We basically use it for location purposes when separately out and about, as opposed to surreptitious tracking. We trust each other.

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Are you asking for a Find My iPhone update that will allow you to input other peoples IDs and passwords so you can keep tabs on them at all times? Would you really want to lose your iPhone and then use someone elses device to input your ID so you can locate your phone in a pinch, then wonder if your username and password was now saved on their device? I wouldnt.

All of your security fears could easily be addressed. No need to get into them, but I thought such functionality would be cool and useful.

"Here Johnny, take daddy's iPhone and go walk around the mall. I'll sit here with my iPad and keep an eye on you."
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Are you asking for a Find My iPhone update that will allow you to input other people’s IDs and passwords so you can keep tabs on them at all times? Would you really want to lose your iPhone and then use someone else’s device to input your ID so you can locate your phone in a pinch, then wonder if your username and password was now saved on their device? I wouldn’t ...

I think this is an overly paranoid point of view (as is Apple's point of view on disallowing this feature.)

It's something that occurs to every couple, or every group of friends that all own Apple equipment like iPhones and I've seen it come up again and again on many forums. There doesn't seem to be any good reason why (with the appropriate safeguards and permissions), people can't share their location info with others if they want to. Apple hasn't enabled it, but I don't see any valid security reason why not and I've never heard one from anyone else either.

Families actually do this all the time by using family accounts and it's a very valuable thing to know where your kids or your partner is. To tell people who don't happen to have their account setup that way that they don't deserve or can't have the same function is nonsensical to me.
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All of your security fears could easily be addressed. No need to get into them, but I thought such functionality would be cool and useful.

"Here Johnny, take daddy's iPhone and go walk around the mall. I'll sit here with my iPad and keep an eye on you."

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I think this is an overly paranoid point of view (as is Apple's point of view on disallowing this feature.)

It's something that occurs to every couple, or every group of friends that all own Apple equipment like iPhones and I've seen it come up again and again on many forums. There doesn't seem to be any good reason why (with the appropriate safeguards and permissions), people can't share their location info with others if they want to. Apple hasn't enabled it, but I don't see any valid security reason why not and I've never heard one from anyone else either.

Families actually do this all the time by using family accounts and it's a very valuable thing to know where your kids or your partner is. To tell people who don't happen to have their account setup that way that they don't deserve or can't have the same function is nonsensical to me.

You guys are talking about different things than what I stated. The Find My iPhone app is to locate a lost or stolen iOS-based iDevice, not to use to spy on peoples locations. The point is you can use someone elses device in a pinch to locate your iOS-based iDevice.

There are already services that allow you to spy on people the way you want to, but that is not the reason this app was created.
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You guys are talking about different things than what I stated. The Find My iPhone app is to locate a lost or stolen iOS-based iDevice, not to use to spy on peoples locations. The point is you can use someone elses device in a pinch to locate your iOS-based iDevice.

There are already services that allow you to spy on people the way you want to, but that is not the reason this app was created.

I think you're kind of splitting hairs here, but point taken anyway.

I would argue that your repeated use of the word "spy" and talk about "spying on people" kind of reveals your true feelings about this kind of tech though.
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Youve missed the point. Its not a Multitasking Bar its the Fast App Switcher. The list of icons are not all running in the background, using your RAM and slowing your device down. There is no reason to want to remove them all unless you a) still dont understand the purpose of Fast App Switching, or b) are anal retentive. I suggest just not using the Fast App Switcher since each app you use will end up in that list in the order in which you last used it which makes your point about only listing the last 8-10 moot since thats by design the first apps youll see when you access the feature and start scrolling.

I agree with your point, although, I would point out that, if they support fast app switching, these apps (or the OS for them) are consuming some resources even though they aren't "running" since their state information is being saved/archived. I sometimes quit some apps and relaunch them fresh -- like the NPR app by Rocket Bottle, which doesn't seem to ever fully refresh the "Latest" section unless you do so.
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I think you're kind of splitting hairs here, but point taken anyway.

I would argue that your repeated use of the word "spy" and talk about "spying on people" kind of reveals your true feelings about this kind of tech though.

So paranoid and yet I use this tech daily. I havent disabled my GPS, I do my FourSquare checkins for friends and family, and use other apps for this type of service. What Im not going to do is use a strangers iDevice to log my AppleID info into their phone and have the data saved if I misplace my device. Thats just stupid.

B]macinthe408[/B] bought up the spying, I merely pointed out what the app is for as his post noted that it was funny the app existed in the first place, why Apple wouldnt do what he asked (along with Thompson) and the fact that there are other ways to do your clandestine snooping without Apple feeling culpable.
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I agree with your point, although, I would point out that, if they support fast app switching, these apps (or the OS for them) are consuming some resources even though they aren't "running" since their state information is being saved/archived. I sometimes quit some apps and relaunch them fresh -- like the NPR app by Rocket Bottle, which doesn't seem to ever fully refresh the "Latest" section unless you do so.

Again, being in Fast App Switching doesnt mean they are using RAM. iOS apps by design auto save data. This was an important aspect to the recent Mac OS X 10.7 demo.

Some apps that have recently run will still be in RAM if the developer enabled that option so you can reluanch it. Words With Friends is one such example that now retains itself in RAM (I think 120 seconds) so you can instantly jump back into it again Note: You dont need to launch it from Fast App Switcher to jump back into the app.

if you restart your iOS device and then access Fast App Switcher these apps will all listed in the same order they were before your turned off the device. Unless one wants to foolishly argue that all those apps are pushed back into RAM after a restart its clear they are not running in RAM.

The only thing Id like to see is a badge appended to apps in Fast App Switcher and on the Home Screen when they are still running in the background. This would alleviate this inability to understand what Fast App Switching is, but it would take away from the seamless nature of Apples background processes which they arent likely to do. I guess people will have to learn not to be anal retentive about seeing icons in Fast App Switcher or move to Android.
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