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Unfortunately the GOP took over the house today.John Bohener will be speaker of the house. Let us see what bullshit will come out of his mouth in the months to follow.I sincerely do not believe he is for the people. He is for big business and wall street like the rest of the GOP Party. A sad day in politics today Nov 2, 2010.
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Unfortunately the GOP took over the house today.John Bohener will be speaker of the house.

Unfortunately because, well, having one party in complete control has worked out so well.


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Let us see what bullshit will come out of his mouth in the months to follow.

Probably not much worse than the bullshit Obama will be spouting (and has been spouting) or Pelosi had been spouting.


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I sincerely do not believe he is for the people.

I agree. But then I don't think Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Obama, etc. are either.

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Unfortunately the GOP took over the house today.John Bohener will be speaker of the house. Let us see what bullshit will come out of his mouth in the months to follow.I sincerely do not believe he is for the people. He is for big business and wall street like the rest of the GOP Party. A sad day in politics today Nov 2, 2010.

Meanwhile the people who help elect Democrats are employing double irish and dutch sandwiches to get out of their taxes and are also stuffing a trillion of "stimulus" into their pockets every year.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

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Unfortunately the GOP took over the house today.John Bohener will be speaker of the house. Let us see what bullshit will come out of his mouth in the months to follow.I sincerely do not believe he is for the people. He is for big business and wall street like the rest of the GOP Party. A sad day in politics today Nov 2, 2010.

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Meanwhile the people who help elect Democrats are employing double irish and dutch sandwiches to get out of their taxes and are also stuffing a trillion of "stimulus" into their pockets every year.

Can you tell us who these people are?

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Can you tell us who these people are?

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I want to make everyone my google slave as well while I link to the same four smilies.

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Tuesday's results are open to (careful) interpretation:

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For Republicans, it's the classic problem of over-interpreting the mandate of an election. For the president, it's the risk of under-interpreting the message the voters delivered Tuesday.

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It took the president nearly an hour at his Wednesday news conference before he opened up, describing the results as "a shellacking" and admitting that his relationship with the American people "has gotten rockier and tougher" over the past two years.

For most of the rest of the hour, however, he sounded little different than he had before the election, unwilling it seemed to consider whether he had moved too far to the left for many voters who thought he was a centrist when he ran in 2008.

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But Tuesday's results showed just how much work the president has to do to turn around his presidency. He has lost touch with many people. His coalition is now badly fractured: Neither young people nor African Americans showed up in numbers approaching 2008. Democrats disappeared in some big states, as turnout dropped dramatically.

Independents didn't just defect from the Democrats. They deserted them in droves. If there is one number from all the exit polls that leaps out, it is from Ohio, where independents went for Rob Portman, who won the Senate race, by a staggering margin of 39 percentage points. In the governor's race there, independents backed winner John Kasich by 16 points. Overall, independents voted Tuesday for Republicans by a margin of 18 points. Two years ago, Democrats won them by eight points.

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But the message from independents was not only unhappiness with the results of Obama's economic and domestic agenda, but also with the agenda itself. According to exit polls, 57 percent of independent voters said Obama's policies would hurt the country in the long run. Just 38 percent said they would help.

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Those who doubted him from the start now are hard-core in their opposition. Many of those who were inspired by his candidacy are, at a minimum, let down. Those who were merely hopeful have lost hope.

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What happened Tuesday represents the biggest and broadest rebuke he has ever received.

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The president has great faith in himself, which may serve him well in this time of travail, but which also could compound his problems...At the same time, that sense of self-confidence risks understating what happened Tuesday. It was Obama, after all, who was resistant to advice from some of his team not to go so fast in 2009 and 2010, particularly on health care.

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The public wondered whether Obama really understands them and he now has two years to show that he does.

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One important factor missing from this years Midterm elections is what impact the results will have on redistricting Congressional and state assembly seats. After the 2000 Census, the Republicans gained seats through redistricting. Expect to see more infighting over redistricting. From the articles below, it appears that the Republicans stand to gain more than the Democrats. With their majority in the House this is more important for the Republicans.

GOP Could Dominate State Redistricting

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Republicans could hold complete control over the redistricting process in several key states after the 2010 elections.

If the partys gubernatorial candidates were to emerge with wins in Texas, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan all states where Republicans either lead or are tied in recent polls and the GOP holds or wins control of legislative chambers in those same states, Republicans could monopolize the post-2010 redraw.

If Republicans do really well on Election Day, they could swing a lot more seats that they would have control over, said analyst Kimball Brace, who heads Election Data Services, a bipartisan firm that specializes in the census and redistricting. A shift of 10 to 15 [state legislative] chambers is enough to swing [the process] dramatically toward the Republicans.

Based on census data from earlier this year, Brace estimates a total of eight states will gain congressional seats this time around, with Texas projected to be the biggest gainer, with as many as four additional seats. Ohio is projected to lose two seats, while Pennsylvania and Michigan are expected to lose one. Florida is likely to gain one.
Strategists note that trends point to the loss of more congressional seats in blue states than in red ones.

One Republican strategist predicted those trends, in combination with GOP gains in 2010, would net the party some 12 to 15 seats once the redraw is done, which should be by the 2012 election, barring any major court battles.


Redistricting Heightens the National Political Stakes for State Races

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Every 10 years, the hierarchy of national politics is turned on its head. It's a time when governors and state legislators take control of jobs on Capitol Hill, and when politicians have the ability to choose their voters, rather than the other way around. It's a period of heightened political stakes, when election results affect not just the current election cycle but, potentially, elections over the coming decade. The time for redistricting is near.
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With partisanship and gridlock already at a peak in Washington, the two rival political parties each hope to have an edge going into the redistricting process that follows the 2010 census. This advantage, in most states, will depend on who controls the state legislatures, which redraw voting district lines to account for population changes, and who holds veto power as governor. So as Americans head to the polls in November, experts say that they should know that whom they choose for their state seats now could affect who holds congressional seats in the future. "Redistricting determines who's in power," says the Campaign Legal Center's Gerry Hebert. "It's the most political thing that [state] legislatures do."
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States redraw their congressional districts at least once every 10 years, following the decennial census, to ensure that each citizen's vote counts as much as the next. This follows the Constitution's "one man, one vote" principle. In theory, redistricting should simply account for population shifts; it nevertheless has evolved into a complex political tool by which the controlling party games the system to try to create significant advantages for its candidates.
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Observers recall that after the 2000 census, Republicans had an edge over Democrats in the redistricting process, which helped them gain a number of congressional seats in the decade's early election cycles. Democrats are more prepared this time around, says Michael Sargeant, executive director of the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee.
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Both political parties have several groups committed to strategic aspects of redistrictingfrom winning seats in the states' chambers to analyzing population data and anticipating court battles over redrawn district lines. Organizations like the DLCC and its GOP counterpart, the Republican State Leadership Committee, work on behalf of the parties to seek the best chances possible for future election cycles....


States that stand to gain or lose seats as a result of the census reapportionment will also be more highly targeted since their district lines generally undergo more drastic changes. According to preliminary estimates, more of the typically Democratic states stand to lose seats in redistricting next year than those which tend to vote Republican.
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Given those conditions, states with competitive governor's races in 2010such as California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Minnesota, and Michiganare high on strategists' lists, Bonier says. In California, though, taking control of the state's top seat could be inconsequential if voters pass a ballot proposition in November that would assign redistricting power for congressional districts to a nonpartisan commission. About a dozen states have already adopted similar commissions to create fairer maps.

The payoff for winning state legislatures and governorships in these states could be huge, given the long-term savings that drawing safe congressional seats could bring a party. According to the DLCC, state legislative campaigns require far less cash than what is typically necessary for a competitive House race. Since redistricting generally creates safe House seats for the party in charge, national campaigns won't need to spend as much to keep their congressional incumbents in power.....
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The battle over redistricting doesn't stop after elections. How effectively each party draws the lines matters most, and both parties have devoted resources to research in this area as well. Strategy tends to vary from state to state. "Some legislatures engage in incumbent protection, others try to maximize the party's gain," says Gillespie.
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Well, of course, instead of "It's the economy stupid" or "It's the agenda stupid", this time around we continue with the Democratic talking point..."It's the stupid voters":

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In this regard, the Obama administration succumbed to an enduring Democratic blunder: talking over the heads of the American people.

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High-mindedness and good intentions are never a substitute for plain speaking.

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Fearing to oversimplify and eager to highlight gray areas, Democrats often lose their audience. Perhaps the Democratic National Committee in the post-election period should be charged with thinking up messages that fit comfortably on a bumper sticker.

Here again we have this interesting irony. When the voters vote for Democrats they are smart and wise, but when they vote against them they are simple-minded and stupid.

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Well, of course, instead of "It's the economy stupid" or "It's the agenda stupid", this time around we continue with the Democratic talking point..."It's the stupid voters":







Here again we have this interesting irony. When the voters vote for Democrats they are smart and wise, but when they vote against them they are simple-minded and stupid.


And full of fear. Cause you know 2008 was run of the mill and 2010 was scary.
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“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
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My 12 year old niece called and she wants her notebook back.

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無心 The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders., Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit__Edward Abbey
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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