Originally Posted by digitalclips
Could this be a prelude to a deal between Steve and Larry? Maybe an Apple / Sun deal may be coming ... just a thought.
That's the only thing that would make sense, is if they had a deal.
I only hope the deal is that they license Mac OS X Server to Oracle for use in their hardware, and not a deal that says we are chummy buddies and we stay out of each other's markets and SUN/Oracle does enterprise servers, and Apple sticks with consumers and whatever workgroup/small business servers consumers need.
It's a pity. Mac OS X Server and XSan were pushed when they were severely lacking due to being underfunded and understaffed at Apple. Now, with Snow Leopard Server things finally start coming together (although before OS X Server really is running smoothly likely takes another one or two major releases if Apple lets that happen).
So basically, Apple leaves the market when their products finally get to the point of being somewhat polished.
2 Mac Pro in a shelf using 12U? Did anyone do ANY math? The average mid-sized operation or small internet based business has their servers with a colocation provider. They charge by the U.
So if you need 1 server, your monthly rent just went up by a factor of twelve! If you need two servers (which can fit on the same shelf), then it's still a factor of six.
Another server pays for itself just in terms of saved colocation rental cost.
And the Mac Pro's don't have LOM (lights out management), which is a big deal if you have to manage a bunch of servers, and none of the MacMini's have ECC memory, which is a big deal if you handle any important data.
Further to maximize stupidity, the new Mac Minis are now flatter and wider, and while the old form factor allowed 3 MacMini to fit on a shelf in a 1U space, the new form factor only allows for two.
So unless the MacMini gets ECC memory, it can't be taken seriously as a server other than as a media/file server in a private household (as long as you don't intend to store your tax records on it). And the MacPro, while perfectly fine as a media production server in a small media production outfit, it is utterly useless as enterprise-type server because it takes up too much space and lacks LOM functionality.
Why is it, that each time a company is in the position that they could rule the entire market from small to big iron, they don't realize that position and focus on the currently most profitable market and destroy that strategic advantage in the process? Quarterly results are good and important, but the long term vision is equally important.
The last time a company had one architecture that stretched from the desktop to the mainframe, it was DEC with VAX, but they failed to develop the desktop end, moved to the PC and ended up losing all. DEC's loss was ultimately M$ and Unix/Linux' gain.
Now Apple is in the position where it has an OS platform that scales from iPod to Supercomputing clusters, and they let it die at the high-end, first be killing the XServe RAID, WO, now the XServe...