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post #41 of 47
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[quote]Originally posted by hir:
<strong>moto has already gone on record that the current crop of G4's are the much discussed Apollos.

Tha article then concludes that the only thing left on the moto PPC roadmap is to go to .15 micron manufacturing process. No mention of ever going to .13. You can read the whole <a href="http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0201/29.motorola.php" target="_blank">article</a> on Maccentral.

[ 01-29-2002: Message edited by: hir ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think the whole .13 vs. .15 thing has been hashed to death and is a result of Moto using an older or non-conventional numbering scheme to describe their manufacturing process. Someone who understands all this can clear it up for us (again).

UPDATE: I talked to my cousin again today, and he is a little suspicious of me :cool: and is reluctant to give anything else away... I just asked about the whole Apollo naming scheme and his response was that the Apollo was intended to be manufactured on the smaller process, but since the chip divisions of Moto have had such massive layoffs and so forth, they went ahead with the SOI on the current process. The die shrink that was supposed to debut as Apollo will be what appears around April.

As far as the G5, he got a little nervous (didn't want anyone to get in trouble, since I'm sure he's figured out this isn't all for my private knowledge), and would only say that his friends say it won't be ready until the end of the year or early next year. I just hope the G5 engineers have been told to blow smoke up everyone's a$$, and they're lying to him. However, I do believe that this is what he's been told.
post #42 of 47
yawn,

bad job at trying to cover your ass
post #43 of 47
[quote]posted by crayz :
philbot you are starting to piss me off. at first I halfway believed you, but now it seems pretty clear you're incorrect <hr></blockquote>

Crayz, why on earth should what I say pi$$ you off? I know there are G5's ready cos I've seen a test unit. It was recalled because quote: "job done, we're ready to roll".

Now to me that sounds like the chip passed the test, but as for shipping dates, who knows? There maybe a wait for the graphics card, memory, motherboard, new case etc...

all these things could add up to a few more months sure, but I believe it will be sooner rather than later.

With Apple it's hard to tell isn't it? They could be stockpiling G5 towers now, so they will be "available immediately" in March for all I know.

The only thing we can be really sure of is that Apple will continue to surprise us!
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post #44 of 47
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[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
<strong>yawn,

bad job at trying to cover your ass</strong><hr></blockquote>

yawn,

bad job at trying to discredit me

I'm just passing along what I hear. If you don't believe the information is accurate because you have some other information that contradicts it, then post and discuss. However, since I've already said (and several people have confirmed) that I don't make up crap and post it here like so many other people do, please respect the fact that I am telling the truth. I have no reason to lie or make things up - that would only serve to discredit anything else I might have to contribute in the future. Let's discuss the information and not flame the messenger.
post #45 of 47
IHAQ,

Kind of sounds like " back peddling " to me. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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post #46 of 47
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac:
<strong>IHAQ,

Kind of sounds like " back peddling " to me. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Makes sense to me.
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post #47 of 47
I believe I Have Questions. Can't say if his cousin works for Moto but the information is in line with reasonable expectations and what I know.

As for the 'future' Apollo Motorola is skipping the .15 micron node and going straight to .13. Most of the industry is taking this route as the extra expenditure and effort involved is minimized by your savings on die size.
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