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What appears to be have been a significant missile launch on Monday evening a few miles off the coast of Southern California, quite near Los Angeles, has got everyone stumped. NORAD, the FAA, the Pentagon, Homeland Security and everyone else, it seems, is speculating as to what it was and who launched it, and are denying knowledge or involvement. Oddly, the FAA radar at LAX failed to pick up a return echo... \

One thing though... the US military is publicly saying that this is "no threat to our national security". However, if nobody knows who or what it was, then how come it's "no threat"? The media are not making much of an issue of this either, yet for the last 10 years or so, they have been freaking out at the most laughably bogus scare-mongering involving, typically, phony bombs in airports or impossible schemes to blow up planes using hair conditioner and toothpaste.

In contrast, an unidentified rocket launch out of the ocean near the US' 2nd largest city is dismissed along the lines of "move along now, nothing to see here". Perhaps there was no "muslim connection that could be sold to the masses".. so there's the reason for it being a non-event by the media and powers-that-be?

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Sound of tumbleweed and swirling wind mixes with faint distant bleating.......
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post #3 of 15
Seriously though it's not an ICBM test, those are announced weeks in advance for the obvious reasons. Maybe a flare?
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Gentleman here reckons it to be a jet contrail.

Fairly convincing, in that he has shots of acknowledged contrails (and with corroborating different-angle-does-not-look-missile-like-in-the-least shots) that look exactly like the phenomena in question. He describes at length (with maths!) the foreshortening, wind shear, horizon blockage and angular distortion that all contribute to making an arcing line coming towards you from below the horizon look like something rising straight up from the ground going away from you.
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Wait..Trumpy's in California isn't he? I reckon this is the result of him trying to engage MJ and avoid the questions in the psycho thread....
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What appears to be have been a significant missile launch on Monday evening a few miles off the coast of Southern California, quite near Los Angeles, has got everyone stumped. NORAD, the FAA, the Pentagon, Homeland Security and everyone else, it seems, is speculating as to what it was and who launched it, and are denying knowledge or involvement. Oddly, the FAA radar at LAX failed to pick up a return echo... \

One thing though... the US military is publicly saying that this is "no threat to our national security". However, if nobody knows who or what it was, then how come it's "no threat"? The media are not making much of an issue of this either, yet for the last 10 years or so, they have been freaking out at the most laughably bogus scare-mongering involving, typically, phony bombs in airports or impossible schemes to blow up planes using hair conditioner and toothpaste.

In contrast, an unidentified rocket launch out of the ocean near the US' 2nd largest city is dismissed along the lines of "move along now, nothing to see here". Perhaps there was no "muslim connection that could be sold to the masses".. so there's the reason for it being a non-event by the media and powers-that-be?


Media is making a mountain out of a molehill.It was just a plane that was entering the atmosphere CNN states not a rocket missile.We are freaking out to much we everything we hear and see.
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Media is making a mountain out of a molehill.It was just a plane that was entering the atmosphere CNN states not a rocket missile.We are freaking out to much we everything we hear and see.

MEDIA making a mountain.....

CNN STATES it's all ok...

Err...

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The lack of a radar return at LAX supports a contrail left behind from a plane. I've seen plenty of missile launches (in Los Angeles) from Vandenberg AFB and this had a very similar appearance, apart from moving much more slowly.
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"Missile Mystery" Laid to Rest

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Pentagon "Pretty Confident" the Condensation Trail was Caused by an Aircraft; A CONTRAIL Watcher is Certain it Was

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Wait..Trumpy's in California isn't he? I reckon this is the result of him trying to engage MJ and avoid the questions in the psycho thread....

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Wait..Trumpy's in California isn't he? I reckon this is the result of him trying to engage MJ and avoid the questions in the psycho thread....

Actually UC and CSU system is raising tuition for the second time in a year. Perhaps the students are just acting like those peaceful and calm students in England.

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"Missile Mystery" Laid to Rest

The jury's not quite closed out yet.

Watch the video in the link... whatever is causing the plume/contrail/whatever is lit up. No biggie... but:

If videos had been shot from two or more locations, it would be easy enough to calculate the exact latitude and longitude of the object, and from there, the altitude of whatever is making the trail. Then, find out the exact time of evening the video was shot, and we would know how far below the horizon the Sun was, and therefore whether the light from the object could have been a reflection of the Sun (from the underside of a commercial jet). If not, then the only other possible source of light would have been the object itself, which would point to a missile powered by rocket engines rather than a plane powered by jet engines.

Then we could look up upper air soundings from NOAA/NWS or tephigrams for that area to determine whether the temperature, relative humidity/dewpoint, direction and strength of the upper winds of the atmosphere were conducive to the formation of a contrail that resembles what is in the video. If the air at (30,000ft?)was too dry, for example, for a visible contrail to form, or a contrail of the persistence and density that appears in the video, then a missile would appear more the likely cause than a jet airplane.

The basic data necessary to determine the (most likely) cause is readily available from official sources; this incident shouldn't really be a mystery.
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post #13 of 15
Do you think this might be related to the 'Aliens turned on nuke missiles' meme the Government were 'leaking' recently?

Could be some sort of conditioning experiment...
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I mean 'tweaking' the experiment...
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confirmed, Chinese submarine sending clear warning to Helicopter Ben not to print more money.
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