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Though previous reports alleged that iOS 4.2 would become available on Friday, new rumors suggest the software update for the iPhone and iPad will come next week, on Nov. 16, or perhaps even later to address purported Wi-Fi issues [updated].

The "most likely" release is next Tuesday, Nov. 16, according to iPhoneHellas. The same site previously had accurate reports indicating the release time of Apple's iOS software updates.

In addition, references to a Nov. 12 launch that were allegedly found in previous builds of iOS 4.2 carrier bundles have been removed, providing more evidence that the update may not be issued until next week at the earliest.

But another report from MacStories claims that the software has been delayed due to issues with Wi-Fi connectivity. It alleged that Apple is preparing a new gold master that will be issued to developers soon.

The Friday launch was rumored earlier this week, in a report that also said that Mac OS X 10.6.5 and iTunes 10.1 would arrive on Wednesday. That turned out to be half true, as Apple released its latest update to the Snow Leopard operating system, but did not issue an update for iTunes.

iOS 4.2 is Apple's eagerly awaited software update for the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. It will mark the debut of iOS 4 on the iPad, bringing features like folders and multitasking that iPhone and iPod touch owners have enjoyed for months.

The update will also bring AirPrint and AirPlay to the mobile devices, though support for shared printers in Mac OS X 10.6.5 was axed at the last minute for still-unknown reasons. The ability to stream video from an iOS 4.2 device to an Apple TV through AirPlay will also require a software update for the Apple TV.
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Damn that sucks. I wonder what really is holding them up.
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Damn that sucks. I wonder what really is holding them up.

Apple's website says November. To me, anything before the 1st of December is ahead of or on schedule, not behind.

This is what happens when we believe people "familiar with the situation" instead of the actual source.
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You said "create custom" text message tones. That's not accurate. Just for clarification's sake.
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Well, at least they found the issue before they deployed. A few days delay is preferable to some debacle with thousands of owners complaining on the Internet.
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Damn that sucks. I wonder what really is holding them up.

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Well, at least they found the issue before they deployed. A few days delay is preferable to some debacle with thousands of owners complaining on the Internet.

They won't be able to complain on the internet because the WiFi doesn't work properly.
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It's not being held back because of Wi-Fi. I've been using the GM since release. I was one who had Wi-Fi issues with 3.2 but it has been absolutely perfect with 4.2.

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What? We can't create custom text sounds. Check your facts. It does include new sounds, but they are horrible.
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Why in the he'll would there be wi-fi issues?

I have none under 3.2.

It's ridiculous how long this update is taking!
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Assuming rumor is true .... it's very rare apple issues two GMs before release. Something must be real glitchy on the developer bug reports.
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Assuming rumor is true .... it's very rare apple issues two GMs before release. Something must be real glitchy on the developer bug reports.

Yep, very rare. However I am wondering if they are waiting for the patent issues to be resolved if in fact that's the reason why AirPrint was delayed. Therefore they might release a small update to add those 3 files needed for the full AirPrint experience. Otherwise, just might as well wait.
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Execution problems. Again and again.

Trolling. Again and again.
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It's not being held back because of Wi-Fi. I've been using the GM since release. I was one who had Wi-Fi issues with 3.2 but it has been absolutely perfect with 4.2.


I upgraded and my wifi is definitely crippled. So it may not be that they broke the same thing as before.
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Yep, very rare. However I am wondering if they are waiting for the patent issues to be resolved if in fact that's the reason why AirPrint was delayed. Therefore they might release a small update to add those 3 files needed for the full AirPrint experience. Otherwise, just might as well wait.

I don't believe the patent rumor. The Apple blood sucking lawyers would have had that ironed out before apple put all the program engineering resources necessary for the release. I think they have some glitches and want to get it right.
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I upgraded and my wifi is definitely crippled.

How so?

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I believe it. I have managed to have two 3G iPhones swapped out by Apple due to software upgrades in the 3.x and 4.x iterations that trashed the Wi-Fi. And I am not alone.

In fact, the 4.x one was swapped out a year out of warranty, with the Genius Bar dude telling me this was a common issue.

Since the Wi-Fi is on the same chip as the BlueTooth, it also killed my headset.

Apple has to ensure that their updates stop doing this.
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It's not being held back because of Wi-Fi. I've been using the GM since release. I was one who had Wi-Fi issues with 3.2 but it has been absolutely perfect with 4.2.

Here we go again. "It isn't happening to me so it's not the issue."

There's a big world out there. Suggest you climb out of your hole.
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Here we go again. "It isn't happening to me so it's not the issue."

There's a big world out there. Suggest you climb out of your hole.

The hardware is identical. It's not as though there's a range of iPads out there, much less differing build types and makeups. Having had the original Wi-Fi problem, would it not stand to reason that if there was a second, I would have it as well?

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Trolling. Again and again.

Responding. Again and again.

Seriously?
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Execution problems. Again and again.

Edited: Almost got caught in the troll net.
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I don't believe the patent rumor. The Apple blood sucking lawyers would have had that ironed out before apple put all the program engineering resources necessary for the release. I think they have some glitches and want to get it right.

Yeah, that's also highly probable. We just don't know for sure and we all know Apple won't go into detail about what happened anyways. I got my AirPrint working last night, so I'm good for now.
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Apple's website says November. To me, anything before the 1st of December is ahead of or on schedule, not behind.

This is what happens when we believe people "familiar with the situation" instead of the actual source.

+1. Ignore Troll Steve-J. Apple said November. That's what I hold them to as well.
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I'm running 4.2 GM, I just wonder: when I look at BBC iPlayer over a Mi-Fi device I can't see videos as it thinks I am on 3G. I seem to rememeber this nto being an issue before, unless iPlayer has changed.

Could this be a 4.2 wi-fi problem?
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Yeah, that's also highly probable. We just don't know for sure and we all know Apple won't go into detail about what happened anyways. I got my AirPrint working last night, so I'm good for now.

I hope the delay isn't related to the hack for AirPrint. If they are planning to do something to prevent it, I'm going to hold on to my GM #1.

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I have a 3GS and a IP4 running the current iOS4.2GM and neither exhibit any WI-FI issues. Just ran speedtest to verify that iphone performance was on par with my MBP WI-FI and found comparable results. Would be curious as to what types of issues have cropped up so as to be on the lookout.
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It's not being held back because of Wi-Fi. I've been using the GM since release. I was one who had Wi-Fi issues with 3.2 but it has been absolutely perfect with 4.2.

Cool. Because YOU have no issue that means there are none. Great Post!!
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Trolling. Again and again.

Fanboy. Again and again.
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Apple's website says November. To me, anything before the 1st of December is ahead of or on schedule, not behind.

This is what happens when we believe people "familiar with the situation" instead of the actual source.

Bingo. this is a common tabloid tactic. You use half baked facts allegedly from unnamed sources (aka out of your butt) to create a story and then when you get a few more facts or rumors that your story was wrong, you create a new story with new unnamed sources that the pair broke up, there was a problem in production etc. When in fact, the couple was never dating, and there is no problem, the date was never what you claimed.

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Trolling. Again and again.

Are you claiming that there has not been any increase in execution problems?

I've not seen any hard stats; I based my comment on perception, which is not entirely reliable.
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It's not being held back because of Wi-Fi. I've been using the GM since release. I was one who had Wi-Fi issues with 3.2 but it has been absolutely perfect with 4.2.

There are few WiFi problems reported on iOS developers forum and all reporting the problem after the GM update. So yes, they could be having problem with the Wifi. This is they have betas and it is good that Apple caught this before they official release.
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It's not being held back because of Wi-Fi. I've been using the GM since release. I was one who had Wi-Fi issues with 3.2 but it has been absolutely perfect with 4.2.

I had the same 3.2 issues. There are still a few (albeit less) issues with 4.2 GM for iPad. Once or twice a day I need to flip the airplane mode switch to reconnect to dropped wifi.
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Execution problems. Again and again.

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Trolling. Again and again.

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I don't know why this pisses me off the way it does.

I knew it wouldn't come today, as Apple normally announces things like this, (right?). Guess I was holding out some hope.

But waiting months for an OS that brings 'all' the devices up to one level, that should have been with iOS 4.1. I just don't see a reason why we couldn't have gotten iOS 4's features on the iPad sooner. So we can print with 4.2 (maybe not?), big deal. But folders, and background processing (wouldn't call it mult-tasking), that crap has been out for a while now, and I just don't think we should have waited almost half a year for, what's touted as, the same OS on all devices.

If it was really the same OS, then we should have had iOS 4 a lot sooner on the iPad.

Meh, I'm rambling.

I read yesterday some dude was saying, his iPad has taken a backseat to his iPhone because of iOS 4's features. You know... I can say the same here.
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There are few WiFi problems reported on iOS developers forum and all reporting the problem after the GM update. So yes, they could be having problem with the Wifi. This is they have betas and it is good that Apple caught this before they official release.

I'm running 4.2 GM on my iPad and there's definitely some WiFi issues mainly revolving around areas of weak signal. Whereas on 3.2 I could get a steady connection in areas of weak signal, 4.2 says it is connected yet doesn't get any throughput. Turning WiFi off then on again usually solves the problem for about a minute before the Internet's gone again. No problems in areas of good signal, however. I'm glad they're going to fix it before releasing, as anyone would be foolish to release software with such an obvious, detrimental bug.
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Is anyone genuinely surprised that "sometime in November" actually meant November 30?
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The hardware is identical. It's not as though there's a range of iPads out there, much less differing build types and makeups. Having had the original Wi-Fi problem, would it not stand to reason that if there was a second, I would have it as well?

No, it doesn't stand to reason. 'Wi-Fi' is not one thing. There are multiple types (a/b/g/n), and multiple encryption protocols, and multipke key handling methods and ciphers. The problem may only manifest with certain access points.
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OK, I've been testing 4.2 for a few months, the most recent build works very nicely with 10.6.5 (GM version).

Nothing to worry about folks. It's in. I'm printing to an old HP LaserJet through my Mac. Just turn on printer sharing on the Mac and hit print on the iOS device.

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I hope the delay isn't related to the hack for AirPrint. If they are planning to do something to prevent it, I'm going to hold on to my GM #1.
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OK, I've been testing 4.2 for a few months, the most recent build works very nicely with 10.6.5 (GM version).

Nothing to worry about folks. It's in. I'm printing to an old HP LaserJet through my Mac. Just turn on printer sharing on the Mac and hit print on the iOS device.

Actually this is not necessarily true because the new builds take away some vital CUPS files. The reason it's working on yours is those files are still on your computer because obviously you are a developer.
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OK, I've been testing 4.2 for a few months, the most recent build works very nicely with 10.6.5 (GM version).

Nothing to worry about folks. It's in. I'm printing to an old HP LaserJet through my Mac. Just turn on printer sharing on the Mac and hit print on the iOS device.

I, too, have had little problems with any of the 4.2 betas -- ibooks had problems on iPad in beta 3.

That said, the only thing i (or anyone?) has been unable to test is AirPlay Video from an iPad (or any iDevice) to an AppleTV (or Mac).

It is interesting that Apple provided a delta Mac OS X update for AirPrint, but nothing for AirPlay Video.

I always wondered if the iPad has enough RAM to pull this off.

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