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Cisco hires Apple's former iPhone chief Mark Papermaster

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Cisco announced Friday that it has hired Mark Papermaster, the former Apple executive who headed up the company's iPhone and iPod division before reportedly being ousted in August.

Papermaster's 2008 arrival at Apple was the subject of controversy. Apple had recruited Papermaster away from IBM, where he served as VP of microprocessor technology development. IBM promptly responded with a lawsuit alleging Papermaster was in violation of his non-compete agreement.

Court documents revealed that Papermaster, who was suggested by Apple VP Mark Mansfield as a "long shot" for the iPhone and iPod position, had been a secondary pick during Apple's year-long search to replace 'iPod father' Tony Fadell. Apple and IBM eventually reached a settlement requiring Papermaster to check in with IBM regularly to notify them that he hadn't revealed any confidential information.

After less than two years at Apple, Papermaster left his position at the Cupertino, Calif.-based iPhone maker. Apple announced his departure in August, but declined to say whether he left of his own accord or was asked to leave. With Apple having recently weathered the iPhone 4 antenna controversy, dubbed 'Antennagate,' pundits speculated that Papermaster had taken the blame for it.

However, sources told The Wall Street Journal that Papermaster's departure came because of a "falling out" with Apple CEO Steve Jobs. According to the report, Papermaster "had lost the confidence" of Jobs several months prior to his departure and was seen as incompatible with Apple's corporate culture. The report also noted that Papermaster had joined Apple while Jobs was on sick leave and may have been "ill-prepared" for Jobs' return.

Papermaster has joined Cisco Systems as its vice president of its silicon switching technology group, Reuters reports.

Interestingly enough, Cisco happens to 'share' the iPhone trademark with Apple, as a result of a settlement over a trademark dispute. That fact, however, likely has no bearing on Papermaster's role at Cisco.
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I have a bad feeling about this.
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So papermaster and puppetmaster did not get along.
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Mark Papermaster who is an expert in microprocessors, SoC technology, was with IBM for over 26 years - mostly in Texas - and is quite capable. He had no business leaving IBM and joining Apple that has a totally different culture... like day and night. Besides, he was already rich being a VP at IBM with deferred comp plans, defined retirement plans, stock options, etc.

Hopefully, it will work out for him with Cisco... whose culture is similar to IBM.
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Ah, now I get why Cisco's stock fell 17% yesterday.

The rumor must have got out.
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Papermaster is becoming quite the whore eh, in anyone's corporate bed it would seem
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Originally Posted by cy_starkman View Post

Papermaster is becoming quite the whore eh, in anyone's corporate bed it would seem

Where the money is Jerry, where the money is..
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Originally Posted by boeyc15 View Post

So papermaster and puppetmaster did not get along.

Tekstud most probably, but still a funny response, lol.
post #9 of 31
So, he's smiling again?

post #10 of 31
He is a talented man, good for him.
Good luck at Cisco!
post #11 of 31
Apple VP - Shouldn't that be Bob Mansfield, not "Mark"?

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Apple VP - Shouldn't that be Bob Mansfield, not "Mark"?

Lucky it's not "Jane"
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So papermaster and puppetmaster did not get along.




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Mark Papermaster who is an expert in microprocessors, SoC technology, was with IBM for over 26 years - mostly in Texas - and is quite capable. He had no business leaving IBM and joining Apple that has a totally different culture... like day and night. Besides, he was already rich being a VP at IBM with deferred comp plans, defined retirement plans, stock options, etc.

Hopefully, it will work out for him with Cisco... whose culture is similar to IBM.

Yeah, based on what I read this seems like a better fit.
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OMG NO WAY!!!11!!

So the guy got another job.
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Lucky it's not "Jane"

Jayne.
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Papermaster is becoming quite the whore eh, in anyone's corporate bed it would seem

Daaaaaaaa**!!!!!
Oh no you didn't!!
post #18 of 31
"Interestingly enough, Cisco happens to 'share' the iPhone trademark with Apple, as a result of a settlement over a trademark dispute. That fact, however, likely has no bearing on Papermaster's role at Cisco."

And exactly HOW does Cisco having a similarly named TRADEMARK have any !%@$ bearing on hiring technical talent? Or do you get paid by the word so this idiot paragraph netted you an extra couple bucks?


Gordon
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"Interestingly enough, Cisco happens to 'share' the iPhone trademark with Apple, as a result of a settlement over a trademark dispute. That fact, however, likely has no bearing on Papermaster's role at Cisco."

And exactly HOW does Cisco having a similarly named TRADEMARK have any !%@$ bearing on hiring technical talent? Or do you get paid by the word so this idiot paragraph netted you an extra couple bucks?


Gordon

Uh, he was being a bit facetious. And you really, really need to get back on your meds.
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I have a bad feeling about this.

For what? Seriously, for what?
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When Steve came back, the first thing he asked Papermaster was if he was a virgin. It was all downhill from there.

(I finally managed to see Pirates of Silicon Valley last night )
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I have a bad feeling about this.

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For what? Seriously, for what?

Maybe he's worried Cisco will come out with a smartphone and/or tablet.
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Maybe he's worried Cisco will come out with a smartphone and/or tablet.

They don't have the consumer tech pedigree, the brand name, or the software/hardware ecosystem to make any meaningful impact in this area.
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People seem to fault Mr. Papermaster for 'AntennaGate'.

I think he would also have been responsable for the White iPhone problems.

Also, there seems to be a big problem with the production process. Not enough iPhones and iPads to make possible better sales.

I am not sure if he was still around then. But these things have to take awhile to set up.

Just my 1 cent worth.
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Papermaster has worked for many biggies. Now Cisco, soon he'll run out of companies.
He must be talented if Apple hired him, However NOT indepensable!
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However, sources told The Wall Street Journal that Papermaster's departure came because of a "falling out" with Apple CEO Steve Jobs. According to the report, Papermaster "had lost the confidence" of Jobs several months prior to his departure and was seen as incompatible with Apple's corporate culture. The report also noted that Papermaster had joined Apple while Jobs was on sick leave and may have been "ill-prepared" for Jobs' return.

Steve:
"You look like an IBM type..."
"You don't fit in here. Why are you even wasting our time?"

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Steve:
"You look like an IBM type..."
"You don't fit in here. Why are you even wasting our time?"

Yeeaaahhh... Ha ha
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Yeeaaahhh... Ha ha

Imagining the conversation now...

"Mark, are you a virgin?"
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Yea, Steve unless you count the time I did a panty raid on your wife's underwear drawer.

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Imagining the conversation now...

"Mark, are you a virgin?"
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People seem to fault Mr. Papermaster for 'AntennaGate'.

While at the same time dismissing 'AntennaGate' as a "non-issue" and telling people "just don't hold it that way". So is there an antenna issue or not?
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

They don't have the consumer tech pedigree, the brand name, or the software/hardware ecosystem to make any meaningful impact in this area.

Apart from the tablet they have already announced of course...



http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps11156/index.html

Have you really any idea of how many people use a Cisco phone at work around the world?

Don't have the brand name??? Don't have any meaningful impact??? Are you nuts?

Cisco have sold 30,000,000 phones, which while not quite the 50,000,000 that Apple have sold. It is an amazing feat when you consider Cisco only sell phones to medium to large enterprise customers and not end users.

Can you imagine what impact they are going to make with mobile devices in the enterprise?
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