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post #81 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:09am
They might have finally figured a way how to distribute papers and sealed a deal with them. Tomorrow the 'iPapers' store will open with full abonnement possibilities of major newspapers around the globe.
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post #82 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:10am
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Funny. Seriously. I hope it comes from Apple love, not Apple hate. Hope you post more if the former.

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post #83 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:12am
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There has been quite a bit of buzz going on in the business world for the past few months because Sony Corp is up for sale and the asking price is well under half the amount of money Apple usually has available in liquid assets just sitting in savings.

I seriously doubt they would announce that sort of thing in this way--too coy, too cute. That kind of serious business move would be given a much more dignified mainstream debut. Wall Street Journal exclusive.
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post #84 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:14am
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Originally Posted by pembroke View Post

Ouch, such egregious grammar!
Can someone puhleeease have a word with Apple's Comms people?!



Either of these would be better:

Tomorrow is just another day...that you'll never forget.

Tomorrow is just another day, a day you'll never forget.

Tomorrow is just another day, and you'll never forget it.


Hey, think different.
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post #85 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post

I seriously doubt they would announce that sort of thing in this way--too coy, too cute. That kind of serious business move would be given a much more dignified mainstream debut. Wall Street Journal exclusive.

Or, Sony's website would just shut down and personnel would just update their linkedin profiles to say they work at Apple.
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post #86 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:20am
"That you'll never forget."


That's a pretty bold statement. It'd have to be something in the order of the release of the iPhone, etc. for me to never forget?

And no press conference? Seems marketing is getting carried away...
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post #87 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:23am
Will it include the implementation of longer song samples?

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...0_seconds.html

or

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...0_seconds.html

I realize the second link says US, but why can't Apple just piss off the global record industry instead of just the US branch?
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post #88 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by jb510 View Post

I still think those expecting to be able to put their own music into the cloud are dreaming. This will be for iTunes purchased media only.

Storage cost is irrelevant since Apple only needs to store one copy of the digital asset for millions of users, this isn't your own personal web disk...

I doubt they'll charge for bandwidth eithier. It'll either be free for all purchased content or it will come along via a MobileMe subscription.

Either way... No you are not going to be able to stream music which you ripped from a CD or downloaded from Amazon or downloaded from TPB.

Sure... I hope I'm wrong and Apple allows all this and more, but I'd put very long odds on it.

I'd also hope for something Pandora-ish... Maybe something that allows you to create stations and share them with friends via ping... Nbut again just don't see apple doing something like that which would be hard to monetize.

You just made sense.

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post #89 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:28am
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Originally Posted by trevc View Post

"That you'll never forget."


That's a pretty bold statement. It'd have to be something in the order of the release of the iPhone, etc. for me to never forget?

And no press conference? Seems marketing is getting carried away...

There are numerous services that they could implement that would be unforgettable. While unlikely, I'd love to see a full out cable TV replacement service through iTunes. Apple can stream you live content as well as any cable provider, with the added benefit of instant streaming of older content. It's just unlikely that they'd be able to work out the content deals to make it happen anytime soon. We'll probably need apps on Apple TV to allow networks to wade into the market at their own pace instead of a full out subscription service from Apple.
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post #90 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:28am
When I look at the times, the only time that has significant 'meaning' beyond being a time is Midnight in Tokoyo.

As Midnight in Tokoyo will be 11/17 - could there be something Significant about 11/17/2010?

as everyone pointed out, 7am Cupertino time is Odd for Apple.
3pm London Time is Odd for London - I'd expect either earlier or later for the Beattles announcement.
I'd expect a 9am, not 10am East Coast Time. And in general, the world ignores Central/Mountain time [I live in Central US myself so I can make that joke].

So I go back to what is special about 11/17?

HMMMM
11/171967 Beatles Ltd and Apple Music Ltd swap names on this day in history.
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post #91 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:29am
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I'll throw in my vote for wireless sync, however unlikely that may be.

If they allowed playlists to include iDisk files you could have another 10 gigs of storage for movies and music. I only have a 16 gig iPhone and 16 gig iPad. So in lieu of actual filesystem management, iDisk gives you some flexibility, but would be greatly improved if you could use iTunes on your mobile to access that content.

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post #92 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by Bandman999 View Post

In marketing, grammar is a pliable concept. Just roll with it.

Indeed, but I'd say "That you'll never forget." is more reminiscent of contortion.
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post #93 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by stevetim View Post

They didn't call a press conference so this probably won't be huge. I bet they will just announce the mac app store is activating.

If it's something familiar to most users, like iTunes, then Apple may feel a press conference would be a waste of time. Besides it gives people time to leak information. Have you noticed how flat Apple's keynotes have been, in terms of audience response lately?

As it's iTunes related i tend to agree with Solipsism and think it'll be a web-based iTunes model.

It's dominating the homepage of most of the Apple sites worldwide so it must be fairly big, as that's a lot of advertising space to give up for something trivial.
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post #94 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:35am
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Originally Posted by calicojoe View Post

Making a big splash on the page suggests it is not a minor announcement like a revised icon for the iTunes app. Allowing people to buy Beatles albums online for download would be a major announcement.

My guess is The Beatles will be available for download including the mono masters.

I really don't see the Beatles being a big enough announcement to warrant a teaser like this on Apple's home page and the iTunes home page as most people won't really care.

My guess is that it's related to the reason they built the North Carolina data center as that's the sort of investment that could lead to something unforgettably new. I also think there should be some hints inside of iTunes 10.1 and iOS 4.2 GM.
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post #95 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:35am
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Could it be an announcement with the BBC, we've been hearing rumours over this side of the pond that iPlayer is going international... AppleTV streaming maybe?

Erm i don't think the Great British tax payer would be too happy about that do you?

It would also be on the the UK Apple TV models now. In the same way we don't get NetFlix.
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post #96 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:37am
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Originally Posted by pembroke View Post

Ouch, such egregious grammar!
Can someone puhleeease have a word with Apple's Comms people?!



Either of these would be better:

Tomorrow is just another day...that you'll never forget.

Tomorrow is just another day, a day you'll never forget.

Tomorrow is just another day, and you'll never forget it.

The phrase "Think different" wasn't too hot on grammar either was it.
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post #97 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:38am
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Originally Posted by cla98 View Post

Could it be an announcement with the BBC, we've been hearing rumours over this side of the pond that iPlayer is going international... AppleTV streaming maybe?

It is for ITUNES!!!!!

It will be the Beatles.
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post #98 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:40am
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Color icons of the sidebar in iTunes -- it would be revolutionary!

Haha. Made me chuckle
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post #99 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by alandail View Post

I really don't see the Beatles being a big enough announcement to warrant a teaser like this on Apple's home page and the iTunes home page as most people won't really care.

I disagree. A Beatles announcement would be huge. Granted, anyone who wants them on their hard drive already has them - having the access on iTunes wouldn't mean much as far as obtaining them. But the mere fact that the Beatles finally are available online... that's huge.
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post #100 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by Wonder View Post

It is for ITUNES!!!!!

It will be the Beatles.

Yoko died?
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post #101 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:42am
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LaLa allowed you to do this for songs that they had in their library. LaLa would "sync" your library with your LaLa account.

Did they sync them or just use relative links? I dont expect Apple to upload all your content to their cloud. At the very least, Id expect it to see what iTunes Store music you have and give you access to that for streaming, but actually touch the content you have in your local iTunes library.

If if does allow you access to any and all content in your local iTunes library, then it would only need to upload the files that are different from what they already have on their servers, and then just link users to that content via a relative link, but I wonder about the legality of this process from the content owners perspective.
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post #102 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by montefuego View Post

The tricky thing here is that they are specifically pointing out time clocks in London and Tokyo, which would seem to not include the possibility of video streaming, that kind of thing, which would presumably be limited to the U.S.

i unfortunately agree, that it is probably the Beatles, which is a bigger deal to Steve Jobs than probably anyone else. I already bought the CD's I want, and imported them into Itunes. Being able to download them is no big deal...

I wish it were something bigger, and still hope it is.


I agree...it could be The Beatles or even ACDC. Probably the former if it is a music announcement. However, if so, would the catalogue be available to the whole world not just US and UK etc? If it is released worldwide then The Beatles would be No1 around the globe this Christmas.

Of course it could be the cloud based iTunes that has long been rumored or a subscription model. This would both suit Apple's current products e.g. Apple TV.

Does anyone know if a live video feed is available?
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post #103 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by Motlee View Post

Maybe when more than 10 people in a given population understand what the hell you are talking about without explanation, Apple would consider it.

While storage on a HDD may be a non-issue, on iDevices it is.

Even if storage wasn't an issue these "audio philes" would still tell you they can hear the difference on the single mono speaker on iDevices.
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post #104 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:43am
Hmmmm

Event at 10AM EST not PST.......

Means the event in Cupertino.

Now, where could Apple be having this event on the east coast?

Its probably just iOS 4.2
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post #105 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by mobycat View Post

I disagree. A Beatles announcement would be huge. Granted, anyone who wants them on their hard drive already has them - having the access on iTunes wouldn't mean much as far as obtaining them. But the mere fact that the Beatles finally are available online... that's huge.

Perhaps for a Beatles fan who hasn't already bought them all on CD, but not so much of a big deal for the general public and certainly not one worthy of this teaser. If it is just a Beatles announcement, a lot of people really won't care, which is why it pretty much can't be the Beatles.
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post #106 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:44am
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There has been quite a bit of buzz going on in the business world for the past few months because Sony Corp is up for sale and the asking price is well under half the amount of money Apple usually has available in liquid assets just sitting in savings.

Apple's acquiring Sony would be a boom to all of its divisions, but the first to feel the love would have to be iTunes and the iTunes Music Store. Sony entertainment holdings include the major conglomerate known as Columbia/Tri-Star in the film and video division and that also includes a couple of dozen other major studio brands that are either owned or which they hold the distribution rights to. Then there is the music side of things where you have the huge Sony label, which owns the Michael Jackson catalog, and also owns several major labels like A&M and the distribution rights to several other major labels including some of the major players in key markets like Christian/Gospel music. I believe at one time Sony even owned the golden goose Apple Music, which, of course, if that is true and they still hold that property, would mean that Apple would have finally ended the feud between them and Apple Music, owners of the Beatles catalog.

The announcement of a Sony Acquisition would be a sweet addition that would at least double their content delivery offerings, which not only increases the pleasure for the end user, but means that a whole slew of new users would be drawn over to iTunes, the iTunes Music Store, and the products that receive and manipulate content from them. Not to mention, what a boon to the advertisers that will be if such an announcement could potentially dramatically increase the number of iOS devices out there, ramping up from now through year's end.

I agree there would be some very good fits to Apple. However the cynic in me thinks if Apple wanted to buy Sony, Google would be in there already trying to get them first. The fact Google isn't, makes me think Apple isn't interested.
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post #107 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by reliason View Post

When I look at the times, the only time that has significant 'meaning' beyond being a time is Midnight in Tokoyo.

As Midnight in Tokoyo will be 11/17 - could there be something Significant about 11/17/2010?

as everyone pointed out, 7am Cupertino time is Odd for Apple.
3pm London Time is Odd for London .

NYSE opens about 9:30 so 10 EST could be possibly positioning itself for the market to have a full day to react rather than the normal 1PM EST events. So this makes me think that it could possibly appeal to investors and have a large financial investment announcement. Just a thought.
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11/15/10 at 9:45am
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The phrase "Think different" wasn't too hot on grammar either was it.

The grammar of, "Think different," was fine.
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post #109 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:46am
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post #110 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:48am
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I have a feeling we'll see ping integration with Facebook.
Also they're sending me a mac book air and just want to let the world know.

flick.

I thought about that but not everybody uses Facebook. The world clocks indicate that whatever it is will just be a flick of a switch, an upload, an online launch, something that people across the world could enjoy as it happens. Hence the early start in California with Midnight in Tokyo.

I haven't got a bleeding clue have i?
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post #111 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:49am
Apple just bought Netflix and if you purchase a dot-Mac account you get unlimited streaming of their entire movie library.

But this wouldn't be important news outside the US, so I dunno. However, I bet it has a lot to do with the billion-dollar server farm just down the road from me.
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11/15/10 at 9:50am
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Erm i don't think the Great British tax payer would be too happy about that do you?

It would also be on the the UK Apple TV models now. In the same way we don't get NetFlix.

Don't think we get a choice on it...

http://www.t3.com/news/bbc-iplayer-t...rollout?=50747
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post #113 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:50am
I think it's obvious that they will be allowing you access to previously purchased media (e.g. if you've suffered crash) so you won't "forget" what you've lost. This ups the ante for other wannabe online stores. Apple has the ability to do so at low prices, if not for free, it's not like they have to keep a billion copies of lady Gaga, only 1, and a record of your purchase (which they obviously already have). And Apple shouldn't even care if THEY lose it since the record companies own the "original" and only "redistribute" it.

How this affects anything, I don't know, but it looks great for Apple to advertise it. It doesn't really affect much because only X% of people lose all their music (and how much did they actually pay for?). It's more of a "confidence" feature. I don't even use iTunes, but I would rather have a feature to allow me to CLEAR the records of what I purchased.
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post #114 of 262
11/15/10 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by pembroke View Post

"Back to the Mac' is a catch phrase, as is "Think different". However, "That you'll never forget." is simply embarrassing and shameful. That is English being ripped apart with 'extreme prejudice', to coin an Apocalypticly Now phrase.

I find it humorous that you think the English language is somehow more precise than the jumbled hodge podge of other languages and messy rules-with-exceptions that it actually is.
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11/15/10 at 9:57am
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Originally Posted by reliason View Post

When I look at the times, the only time that has significant 'meaning' beyond being a time is Midnight in Tokoyo.

As Midnight in Tokoyo will be 11/17 - could there be something Significant about 11/17/2010?

as everyone pointed out, 7am Cupertino time is Odd for Apple.
3pm London Time is Odd for London - I'd expect either earlier or later for the Beattles announcement.

Interesting observations.

The fact that these times appear in the announcement suggest that it is relevant to all of these markets.

It's also early enough to have a significant impact on stock tradings for the day.
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11/15/10 at 9:57am
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Originally Posted by Not_Sure View Post

Will it include the implementation of longer song samples?

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...0_seconds.html

or

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...0_seconds.html

I realize the second link says US, but why can't Apple just piss off the global record industry instead of just the US branch?

Increasing the length of the music previews doesn't seem like an "unforgettable" event to me. Does it to you?

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11/15/10 at 9:58am
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The grammar of, "Think different," was fine.

Perhaps you speak English 'different' from me?

Some good comments here, I know it was just a slogan , I was kidding around. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_Different
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post #118 of 262
11/15/10 at 10:00am
Ok, I'm convinced, it's iLaLo.

for non-itunes content (not purchased from iTunes) we will have to load them to mobileMe...
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11/15/10 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by Headrush69 View Post

Even if storage wasn't an issue these "audio philes" would still tell you they can hear the difference on the single mono speaker on iDevices.

hmmm... The world has changes. We can get the best of both worlds, in fact every worlds. Starting with Lossless music on iTunes, then streaming and lastly AirPlay. Do you see now what will happen?

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11/15/10 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by Mr Underhill View Post

If it's something familiar to most users, like iTunes, then Apple may feel a press conference would be a waste of time. Besides it gives people time to leak information. Have you noticed how flat Apple's keynotes have been, in terms of audience response lately?

As it's iTunes related i tend to agree with Solipsism and think it'll be a web-based iTunes model.

It's dominating the homepage of most of the Apple sites worldwide so it must be fairly big, as that's a lot of advertising space to give up for something trivial.

I think the web-based iTunes model is much too big a deal not to have a press conference or keynote involved. Perhaps Gruber's guesses are the most accurate. He thinks it could be as simple as 4.2 announcement. He admits he is totally speculating. His point is similar to mine What could Apple announce without a media event to explain and demo it?.
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