Originally Posted by blueeddie
So, in the end, will Intel's Sandy Bridge be available for MBP 15/17in during February? If no, why not? Is it because of the Graphics support?
I highly doubt Apple will not have any updates to the Macbook pro early 2011 (not as late as april, maybe feb), im just wondering, will this include Sandy bridge?
There's nothing stopping the 15"/17" coming out with Sandy Bridge even in January. The graphics issue only affects the lower-end where Apple rightly choose to have NVidia IGPs instead of Intel's.
13" - GPU comes with motherboard (NVidia) paired with Intel Core 2 Duo as NVidia have a license for it
15" - motherboard is Intel's and NVidia GPU is dedicated as NVidia have no license to make motherboards for Intel i-series processors
Apple have now skipped out on 2 generations of i-series chips in the low-end but the i3 mobile chips aren't all that fast. The desktop ones perform really well as they have a higher clock speed but the mobile i3 only performs about 15% faster than the Core 2 Duo. If they go Intel on the low-end, it's a 15% bump in CPU with a 100% drop in GPU.
The only chips worth using are the mobile i5 and i7 and since they are in the 15/17, they likely won't go into the low-end.
Apparently Intel have have hired one of the guys from AMD's GPGPU dept:http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...-to-intel.aspx
So the whole OpenCL deal on the GPU might happen but not in time for Sandy Bridge.
Macbook 2.4GHz, 250GB, 2GB, 320M, $999
MBA 1.4GHz, 64GB SSD, 2GB, 320M, $999
MBA 1.86GHz, 128GB SSD, 2GB, 320M, $1299
MBP 2.4GHz, 250GB, 4GB, 320M, $1199
MBP 2.66GHz, 320GB, 4GB, 320M, $1499
MBP 2.4 i5, 320GB, 4GB, 330M, $1799
MBP 2.53 i5, 500GB, 4GB, 330M, $1999
MBP 2.66 i5, 500GB, 4GB, 330M, $2199
What they could do is the following:
MBA 1.86GHz, 128GB SSD, 2GB, 320M, $999 ($1099 with 256GB)
MBA 2.13GHz, 256GB SSD, 4GB, 320M, $1199 ($1399 with 512GB)
MBP 2.5 i5, 256GB SSD, 4GB, 420M, $1699
MBP 2.6 i5, 512GB SSD, 4GB, 420M, $1999
Any lack of internal storage is made up with Light Peak external drives, the 15" i5s can have a 2.5" extra internal drive. No optical, all instant-on, all have Light Peak, all have good NVidia GPUs.
The entry Air will be 30% slower than the old MB but the SSD and weight will more than make up for that in terms of overall experience. If it doesn't happen at this revision, it will happen soon. Given that the MBA just launched, it's likely they would save this kind of change for late 2011 but Intel has given them nothing to use for the next update. They have 3 choices on the low-end:
- cram an i5 + 415M dedicated into a 13"
- use minor CPU bumps with NVidia IGP = 2.66GHz C2D + 320M IGP
- drop the 13" MB and MBP in favour of the Air.
Marketing-wise, I reckon the 3rd option is the best if they can get the 1.86GHz into the entry model.