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post #161 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:46am
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Originally Posted by stevetim View Post

$150 for the entire collection is very tempting

4 days of ripping and organizing or a simple purchase?
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post #162 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:46am
I find it kinda sad that so many people feel so compelled to boo hoo this. Just watch that video and see the joy that this band brought and still brings to so many people. Sure, it doesn't personally bring me any benefit. I have every album, most in multiple different masterings and remasterings (ie original mono, remastered mono, stereo, remastered stereo, etc), in apple lossless. However, you're insane if you don't think this will help spread the Beatles even more.

People said that Beatles 1 wouldn't do anything because everybody who wanted those songs already had them, and you could go out and buy the red and blue albums if you wanted. Look at how well Beatles 1 sold. It brought The Beatles to a whole new generation, a generation where single cds were the way you took music in.

This brings The Beatles to the generation of download only. I find it hilarious that a lot of apple fanboys keep going on and on about how you could "just go to walmart or best buy and buy the CD and then rip it". That's a "Microsoft solution" to the problem, taking hours of time, gas and dealing with a retail store, especially if you only want certain songs. The whole thing with iTunes is how easily and seamlessly it all works. I guarantee you that more kids, teenagers and even adults will listen to The Beatles because of this, and a lot of people will be happier in life because of it.
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post #163 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post

They put on a press conference for this? It might be the Beetles (for those are are big fans which I'm not) but this isn't all by itself news. This is a rider for something actually exciting.

Where the hell did you hear or see that they held a press conference.?
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post #164 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by thompr View Post

So relative to the HISTORY OF MUSIC, this is a big deal. There's no denying that.

But relative to the economy of the digital revolution we are in today... it's small potatoes.

Let's keep things in perspective.

Thompson

I agree with you. However Apple is not only about digital revolution, they're also a lot about the cultural stuff.
So I'm not very surprised they've put so much emphasis on it.
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post #165 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z View Post

Yeah still don't get it... the Beatles were pretty much the only band left in the world that wasn't offered up already. It's like showing up at the very end and claiming you were in on the success of the event. The Beatles have no claim here... the digital world was moving along with or without them.

In case I'm more than mildly retarded...what exactly did this change? How will this impact other songs on Itunes? Jobs would have been better off with a 'Mission Accomplished' banner hanging over him 'superimposed' into the album cover.

What it does is close a giant hole in the entire concept of digital delivery. How can one maintain that digital downloads is the future of recorded music when the biggest selling group of all time was not part of it? While I agree with those who feel that fans have bought the CDs anyway (but that's true about 95% of what's on iTunes), as per my other post, there are those who will never again buy a CD. For them, the Beatles on iTunes is important. Not as important as the economy or world peace or the environment, but important. And certainly far more important (IMO) than how most people use either Facebook or Twitter.
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post #166 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:50am
No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.


Oh, wait.
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post #167 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:50am
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

1) My reply posed a question was really an answer to those who are buying the iTS box set, as I figured your response pretty much excluded you from ever buying an album on iTS.

2) Id doubt all but some amazing few people with some amazing equipment could hear the difference between a rippedCD at 320kbps or iTS at 256kbps AAC. The only way I could see decent equipment and decent ears noticing a difference is with better than CD quality audio. Like from the failed SACD.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . CD . . . . . . SACD
. . . . . . Format: . 16 bit PCM . . . 1 bit DSD
Sampling frequency: . 44.1 kHz . . . . 2.8224 MHz
. . .Dynamic range: . 96 dB . . . . . .120 dB[1]
. .Frequency range: . 20 Hz 20 kHz . 20 Hz 50 kHz
. . .Disc capacity: . 700 MB . . . . . 7.95 GB
.Discrete surround: . No . . . . . . ..Yes

#1) For the most part, you're probably right. Though, I do buy the occasional album or song from iTunes. However, when they were still 128k files, I wouldn't buy any.

#2) I used to work with high-end audio gear a few years back and there were many occasions where you could here the various differences between systems. However, the equipment didn't have to be as high-end as some would think it would need to be to pick up subtle differences. In any case, you are right, I think most would be hard pressed to hear the difference between the 256k and 320k version. For me, I just like having the higher bit-rate version. Drive space is not an issue and I don't mind managing the music on my iDevices to accommodate the larger file sizes.
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post #168 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:50am
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Originally Posted by Cbswe View Post

I agree with you. However Apple is not only about digital revolution, they're also a lot about the cultural stuff.
So I'm not very surprised they've put so much emphasis on it.

Nineteen (19) words?
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post #169 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by pembroke View Post

It will be very interesting to see what the Beatles iTunes sales will be. Given that everyone already has all their music ripped in iTunes, rationally, it should be pretty close to nil.

People said this about The Beatles 1. People said this about the recent remastered box sets.

Those people were wrong.

I don't see any reason to think this trend of people predicting new releases of The Beatles material will flop being incredibly wrong won't continue.
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post #170 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:51am
This is their big announcement?!
GIVE. ME. A. BREAK.

Who cares?!??!?!?
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post #171 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:55am
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Originally Posted by Wovel View Post

You essentially just called the entire concept of the ITMS irrelevant and I am fairly certain there is not a single person working in any aspect of the music industry that would agree with you.

Exactly
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post #172 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by Onhka View Post

Nineteen (19) words?

I'm not sure I'm following you..
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post #173 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:56am
Honestly for me, this is pretty big. I do have most of the Beatles stuff -- on LP. The problem is, I haven't had a working turntable in a few years. And sure, I will eventually try and find one that's both good and affordable.

But given my living situation right now, I would rather click one button and have everything. It makes sense. It's simple. And I live far more "digitally" these days, obviously, anyways.

But beyond all of that, this IS a big deal for Apple. Over time, this will really pay off, I think.
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post #174 of 378
11/16/10 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by saarek View Post

So this is their big announcement?! This is what caused so much speculation and excitement? A popular band finally comes to iTunes and they deem it worthy of their websites front page.. WTF

Dont get me wrong the Beatles are great and all, but I think Steve Jobs classes them as way more important than they are to Apples bottom line, its not like Apple even makes much money out of selling music.

Now how about announcing something good like the rest of the world finally gets all of the TV shows and movies that the American customers gets at the same price (fat chance). Now that would be big or something like the Apple TV gets an app store!

yes, having access to all the sh*t tv shows is important for the trailer dwellers.
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post #175 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by Rob55 View Post

Why would I pay Apple $149 for the Beatles Box set when I can get the CD box set from Amazon for $129.99?
Meh

Yes, why would you pay Apple £z.zz to buy XXX from The YYY's when you can get the CD from Amazon for £z.zz - £2?

Search me ... I guess the entire iTunes music store concept won't be going anywhere.

Oh ... hold on a minute
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post #176 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by Rob55 View Post

In any case, you are right, I think most would be hard pressed to hear the difference between the 256k and 320k version. For me, I just like having the higher bit-rate version. Drive space is not an issue and I don't mind managing the music on my iDevices to accommodate the larger file sizes.

Have you considered ripping as ALAC or FLAC as backup files? Drive space is cheap and having a lossless copy is the best option for backing up. Of course, if you plan to also keep your CDs, that makes keeping such a copy less important.
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post #177 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:08am
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Originally Posted by Cbswe View Post

I'm not sure I'm following you..

The original announcement was only composed of 19 words. And only on their web site. There was no press release or press conference.

Just how did you conclude, "…I'm not very surprised they've [Apple] put so much emphasis on it?"

Or were you referring to something else?
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post #178 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by dfiler View Post

Yes, saying that it is a day "you will never forget" is certainly hype. Exactly as I described, "one sentence of hype".

When Apple feeds the hype by being purposefully ambiguous and building suspense, it is only reasonable to comment on that hype. If Apple had merely announced "Beatles - Now available on the iTunes Store", you wouldn't be reading about reactions to a "day you will never forget".

Apple's advertising was clearly designed to build hype by getting people to talk about what that one sentence was referring to. And yes, we're talking about that one sentence of hype.

There were several clues in their message and they made it fun. Damn them for being good at marketing..

The real problem is people that over-invest themselves in forthcoming Apple announcements. It is Ok to be interested in seeing whats coming, maybe even a little excited. Getting angry because every announcement from a massive corporation does not appeal to you personally is sick and sad.
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post #179 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:09am
I saw this on CNET ... sorry if it's already been posted here. Weird that it is time limited so drastically or is this BS?

"The digital content is exclusive to iTunes, a representative of The Beatles' record company, EMI, told CNET. The exact length of that deal is unknown, but it will expire some time next year."

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20...#ixzz15SxMRfHt
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post #180 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by KiltedGreen View Post

Yes, why would you pay Apple £z.zz to buy XXX from The YYY's when you can get the CD from Amazon for £z.zz - £2?

Search me ... I guess the entire iTunes music store concept won't be going anywhere.

Oh ... hold on a minute

That's not what I was saying. I obviously realize the iTMS is highly successful. I was just pointing out that the CD box set represents a compelling alternative in this particular instance.
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post #181 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:12am
A memorable day for Steve Jobs. Another obsession that he can lay to rest.

Don't get me wrong i respect the Beatles for their massive contribution to music but today was all about SJ.

Now get iOS 4.2 out to us pronto!! Please!
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post #182 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:15am
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I saw this on CNET ... sorry if it's already been posted here. Weird that it is time limited so drastically or is this BS?

"The digital content is exclusive to iTunes, a representative of The Beatles' record company, EMI, told CNET. The exact length of that deal is unknown, but it will expire some time next year."

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20...#ixzz15SxMRfHt

I think what they're saying is limited isn't The Beatles being on iTunes, its the electronic files being exclusive to iTunes that's limited. ie you can't go to the Amazon mp3 store and buy The Beatles stuff.
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post #183 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Have you considered ripping as ALAC or FLAC as backup files? Drive space is cheap and having a lossless copy is the best option for backing up. Of course, if you plan to also keep your CDs, that makes keeping such a copy less important.

Believe me, I have thought of it. I recently moved to a new house and boxes 9 though 26 of my CDs are still waiting to be unpacked. BTW, have you ever used the feature in iTunes where it'll convert to 128k on the fly and copy those files to your iDevices? I've seen it but haven't tried it yet. Just curious. Perhaps I'll give it a shot this weekend.
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post #184 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:15am
I'm done with apple. I want live stream. People can buy a cd god bloody fools at apple
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post #185 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by Rob55 View Post

That's not what I was saying. I obviously realize the iTMS is highly successful. I was just pointing out that the CD box set represents a compelling alternative in this particular instance.

But when ISN'T that true? If you're willing to go to the store, grab up a CD, come home, rip it, organize it, etc.; you can say that about anything.

OTOH, that seems like it is missing the point of iTMS.
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post #186 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:17am
Having The Beatles on Itunes is truly about everyone involved agreeing that Itunes is a major souce of music (of course we all new hat already) . Its more monumental showing Itunes as a structure that will survive going forward.
It's also about showint the Newspaper, Publication Industry and TV broadcasters that Itunes is a source that even The best Artists have adopted for their distribution.

BEATLES = Yesterday & Today
TV Shows, Magazines. Newspapers = Tomorrow
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post #187 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:18am
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BTW, have you ever used the feature in iTunes where it'll convert to 128k on the fly and copy those files to your iDevices? I've seen it but haven't tried it yet. Just curious. Perhaps I'll give it a shot this weekend.

It's nice, but it takes FOREVER, I did it once with my iPod and it took like 36 hours. It was an 80 gb iPod, but still.
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post #188 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:19am
Wait! Paul McCartney and John Lennon were in the same band at one time? Man. Learn something everyday!

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post #189 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:19am
saw this in the comments at giz

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post #190 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by Ozz View Post

I'm done with apple. I want live stream. People can buy a cd god bloody fools at apple

You're done with Apple because they have offered you an option that you don't have to take?
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post #191 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:20am
For some of us, this is HUGE!

Waited 7 years for this. And yes, I have the music on vinyl, on CD, but having it on iTunes is different. Enjoying the LP version is delightful.
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post #192 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:22am
Depends on your satisfied with files that are half the quality of a CD.

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4 days of ripping and organizing or a simple purchase?
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post #193 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:22am
Every time I see that I can't stop laughing.

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saw this in the comments at giz
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post #194 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:24am
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post #195 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:24am
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Originally Posted by bdkennedy1 View Post

Depends on your satisfied with files that are half the quality of a CD.

Have you ever blind tested yourself against 256 kbps AAC and a CD? I've NEVER seen anybody pass that and I work in studios. I know a guy who can hear the difference between lithium and alkaline batteries in his distortion pedal, but can't hear the difference in 256 kbps and CD.
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post #196 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by FJRabon View Post

Have you ever blind tested yourself against 256 kbps AAC and a CD? I've NEVER seen anybody pass that and I work in studios. I know a guy who can hear the difference between lithium and alkaline batteries in his distortion pedal, but can't hear the difference in 256 kbps and CD.

And certainly if there are people who can, they represent what percentage of the population?
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post #197 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:30am
With headphones on, I can't tell the difference. In my car with an Infinity sound system, I can completely tell the difference.

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Have you ever blind tested yourself against 256 kbps AAC and a CD? I've NEVER seen anybody pass that and I work in studios. I know a guy who can hear the difference between lithium and alkaline batteries in his distortion pedal, but can't hear the difference in 256 kbps and CD.
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post #198 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:36am
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Originally Posted by ascii View Post

The free concert video is worth a watch. It's amazing to see the reactions of people (especially women) to rock and roll back when it was new.

I can't imagine such hysteria to even the biggest stars of today.

I think I agree with your last statement! I have a 14 3/4 year-old granddaughter -- loves music, but wouldn't react as in the past.

But, it (swooning) didn't start with the Beatles in the 1960s.

Rock and Roll started in the 1950s -- Bill Haley and the Comets recorded a song named "Rock around the Clock" that was used in a controversial movie "Blackboard Jungle"

The swooning women go back at least to the 1940's. The accepted male singers (by adults) were the likes of Bing Crosby, Frankie Laine, Vaughn Monroe, etc. The teen age girls of those years were called "Bobby Soxers" and swooned to the rebel Frank Sinatra.


... And through all these decades -- Willie Nelson, just singing' everything!


...Everything Old is New Again.
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post #199 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:38am
That is the big announcement? You can buy Beatles on iTunes? I recognize the contribution to music that the Beatles have made, but you have always been able to buy their music. I think the fact that you can now buy it on iTunes really is not worthy of a big announcement.
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post #200 of 378
11/16/10 at 9:38am
If we are missing something, when was the last time that Apple was able to introduce a music service to such an wide international audience at the same time?

For example, the USA, Canada, UK, France, Germany, Austria, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Italy, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, etc.
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