Originally Posted by jimmac
So you're saying you have evidence that these numbers are wrong?
Just asking. If you answer do please try to stay within the confines of black and white. Are they right or wrong? And not a long winded answer that really doesn't answer the question directly.
Are you seriously suggesting that just because someone you agree with states it that it has to be disproven before it has been proven?First this has been covered before because the meme of liberal smart, conservatives dumb isn't a new one. In fact it is the basis of many of their eugenic thoughts.
It doesn't have to be good enough for you but it was for the NY Times.
Gore did have a higher SAT score and as it notes, by the same proxy reasoning, would have a higher IQ than both of them but as for how that ability was applied, well the Washington Post, among others hit on that.In his sophomore year at Harvard, Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale. That was the year Gore's classmates remember him spending a notable amount of time in the Dunster House basement lounge shooting pool, watching television, eating hamburgers and occasionally smoking marijuana. His grades temporarily reflected his mildly experimental mood, and alarmed his parents. He received one D, one C-minus, two C's, two C-pluses and one B-minus, an effort that placed him in the lower fifth of the class for the second year in a row.
For all of Gore's later fascination with science and technology, he often struggled academically in those subjects. The political champion of the natural world received that sophomore D in Natural Sciences 6 (Man's Place in Nature) and then got a C-plus in Natural Sciences 118 his senior year. The self-proclaimed inventor of the Internet avoided all courses in mathematics and logic throughout college, despite his outstanding score on the math portion of the SAT. As was the case with many of his classmates, his high school math grades had dropped from A's to C's as he advanced from trigonometry to calculus in his senior year.
In the midst of all this I should note that Sen. Bill Bradley, certainly not someone I think you would knock as a dummy, had a documented IQ of 103 and a very low SAT verbal score of 485. He was a Princeton Rhodes Scholar as well regardless of those two items.
As for President Obama, we know he went to Occidental College for two years, transferred to Columbia and graduated with his undergrad degree. He was then admitted to Harvard Law and completed his graduate work there. He graduated from Columbia WITHOUT honors which would mean his GPA was lower than 3.3. He did graduate Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law. This is all we know because he has not released anything more.
We know Sarah Palin transferred around quite a bit and graduated with her degree in Communications from the University of Idaho. She graduated in 1987, got married in 1988, and had her first child in 1989 while helping her husband with his business. If any of these things makes someone stupid make sure to let us know because it sounds like a ton of women I know and respect.
Now to answer your question, they are wrong because they are not sourced and are made up shit by teenagers on the internet. We also know they are wrong because the scores are in the realm of borderline intellectual functioning, aka as low as you can go without being labeled retarded.They are usually able to function day to day without assistance, including holding down a simple job and the basic responsibilities of maintaining a dwelling.
Regardless of who we are talking about, all these parties have done well above that.
Finally with regard to disenfranchisement, it should be noted that classic Democratic tactics of voter disenfranchisement involve education, character and money. All have been used by them in the past in the form of poll taxes, literacy or education tests, and grandfather/good character clauses to deny votes or viewpoints from those with whom they disagree.
You're not entitled to your own facts. There are plenty of them here waiting for you to yet again dismiss them with your silly nonsense.