Apple to release iOS 4.2 for iPad, iPhone and iPod touch today - Page 3

Originally Posted by anonymouse

Actually, a tiger is probably much more powerful than a lion, and certainly more so than a leopard, so there really isn't any relationship between the specific cat and where the OS is going. Also, Apple isn't locked into cat names for Mac OS releases, so even if there were no more cats, they can just switch the code name to something else.

(Re-)Unification of Mac OS and iOS is not imminent.

Originally Posted by mstone

I can't upgrade right now but can anyone see if the AirPrint hack for 10.6.5 still works?

Originally Posted by NIZZARD

Guess what, assholes.... Im a jailbreaker, but I don't have any pirated apps. Any apps that requires a jailbreak to run, Ive paid for.

Originally Posted by tonton

Even the free ones?

Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss

The update progress bar on my iPad is stuck with about 3% left to go, and iTunes reported that this iPad can't be backed up. Any suggestions?

Originally Posted by Pomme

Jailbreakers are pirates.

Originally Posted by tonton

Don't want to update iTunes?

Originally Posted by cmf2

The choice of the term Lion is very symbolic. I felt that 10.7 would be the last iteration of OSX before they announced it, the name simply feels like confirmation to me.

There are plenty of reasons to expect Lion to be the last version of OSX:

1) iOS is going to gain more and more features over the next few years, bringing it closer and closer to the capabilities of OSX.
2) Mobile hardware will become much more capable over the next few years, allowing the hardware to run a full desktop OS.
3) The OSX UI is getting more and more features and not all work that well together. It feels unfocused and inconsistent and will continue to feel that way until they start with a clean slate and drop some of the older UI elements. Lion appears to be the testing ground for some iPad friendly elements that may eventually for the primary means of navigation on the mac.
4) Windows 8 is supposed to be Microsoft's first OS really designed around touch. it should be out around the same time as Apple's next release after Lion.
5) Macs and iPhones running the same OS would instantly destroy Microsofts desktop OS near monopoly. Add a desktop version of Android (not Chrome) into the mix and things get really interesting.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody

I agree with your five points, but I don't think any of them really ensure or even imply that Lion will be the last of OS-X. They are mostly just good reasons to blend the two OS's and the only one that hints at an actual time line (4), is probably the dodgiest of the lot.

OS-X is a huge hit for Apple and the thing that drives their entire business. I don't see them dropping the brand as lightly as others seem to think they will. OS-XI or "OS 11" has no cache and no brand attachments.

Apple would be stupid IMO to drop the OS-X brand until they absolutely have no other choice. It would be a similar gaffe to Microsoft renaming Windows on some kind of whim, in order to look more modern or something. There is a reason that MS put's "windows" in front of everything and it's the same reason the OS-X brand won't be changing any time real soon.

Apps must be compatible with the iPhone for the multitasking to work. This means that the apps must be updated [by the developer] with the proper code. You'll know if your app is configured by whether or not it picks up from where you left off.

http://www.wikihow.com/Do-Multitaski...-or-iPod-Touch

Originally Posted by lav1daloca

Where are my LIVE WIDGETS??? I'm sick and tired of looking at those glossy icons!!!! They don't show me anything useful.

I still can't view important calendar entries on the lock screen! A MUST ON ANY SMART PHONE!!! How bout a calendar widget?

E-mails are not supported on the lock screen as are calls or txts. Why?

Time should be visible on standby mode, aka like in the Nokia N8.


The iPhone is great, but it has some serious shortcomings that sometimes makes me want to throw it out the window. SOMEBODY WITH SOME SERIOUS PULL AT APPLE BETTER TELL JOBS THAT HIS IPHONE IS STILL LACKING!!!

Originally Posted by matrix07

Reject iPad and try again?

Originally Posted by Napoleon_PhoneApart

Not all of us are pirates. Grow up.

Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss

Pardon? What I ended up doing was a reboot, which stuck the progress bar about 2/3 the way through. I rebooted again, same result. While I was searching online for some solution to this problem, the iPad completed booting and all appears to be well again -- though I wonder if a restore might not be a good idea.

Originally Posted by mstone

I noticed similar behavior when upgrading to GM1. The progress bar seemed stuck and then just completed all of a sudden. Maybe a faulty progress bar.

Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss

The first time, it got to 97% and stuck there. I tried waiting it out, until iTunes reported that the iPad could not be backed up. Have you seen that symptom?

Originally Posted by mstone

I can't upgrade right now but can anyone see if the AirPrint hack for 10.6.5 still works?

Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody

Thanks for the clarification and of course you are correct, but that doesn't really change my opinion.

There are often 20 or 30 apps in that list on the switcher, but very very few of them are capable of being switched to without basically restarting the app. I'm not talking about obscure stuff either. I have a couple of expensive EA games that don't even save their state, and with the memory constraints, anything but the last two apps you were using have almost always been switched out of memory by the time you select them also.

I'm not trying to overly criticise the setup they have, it's a good way to get effective multi-tasking. I just don't like the fact that this long, long, list get's populated and that it's essentially a meaningless list.

Meaningless stuff bothers me, and stuff not under my control bothers me. This list of apps is a double-whammy in that respect. None of those apps (past the first one or two) are really available to switch to. There is no reason in my mind why they should be there, since they perform no function other than showing that yes, you ran that program last week or whatever. In that respect the only concrete effect of them being there is to provide a (small, minor) security hole in the UI as any "recently used" list does.

Originally Posted by cmf2

The choice of the term Lion is very symbolic. I felt that 10.7 would be the last iteration of OSX before they announced it, the name simply feels like confirmation to me.

There are plenty of reasons to expect Lion to be the last version of OSX:

1) iOS is going to gain more and more features over the next few years, bringing it closer and closer to the capabilities of OSX.
2) Mobile hardware will become much more capable over the next few years, allowing the hardware to run a full desktop OS.
3) The OSX UI is getting more and more features and not all work that well together. It feels unfocused and inconsistent and will continue to feel that way until they start with a clean slate and drop some of the older UI elements. Lion appears to be the testing ground for some iPad friendly elements that may eventually for the primary means of navigation on the mac.
4) Windows 8 is supposed to be Microsoft's first OS really designed around touch. it should be out around the same time as Apple's next release after Lion.
5) Macs and iPhones running the same OS would instantly destroy Microsofts desktop OS near monopoly. Add a desktop version of Android (not Chrome) into the mix and things get really interesting.

Now I don't think the reunification of iOS and Mac OS is a sure thing, but I do expect a major shakeup of Mac OS because of iOS, and that may include unifying the two platforms. As of today, the iPhone and iPad run the same version of iOS. Apple TV also runs iOS, and I'm sure Apple is working on having it catch up with the iPhone and iPad, despite having a different UI. Is it really that hard to believe that macs may also be running a unified OS 3 or 4 years from now?

Originally Posted by lav1daloca

I still can't view important calendar entries on the lock screen! A MUST ON ANY SMART PHONE!!! How bout a calendar widget?

E-mails are not supported on the lock screen as are calls or txts. Why?

Time should be visible on standby mode, aka like in the Nokia N8.


The iPhone is great, but it has some serious shortcomings that sometimes makes me want to throw it out the window. SOMEBODY WITH SOME SERIOUS PULL AT APPLE BETTER TELL JOBS THAT HIS IPHONE IS STILL LACKING!!!

Originally Posted by cmf2

Now I don't think the reunification of iOS and Mac OS is a sure thing, but I do expect a major shakeup of Mac OS because of iOS, and that may include unifying the two platforms. As of today, the iPhone and iPad run the same version of iOS. Apple TV also runs iOS, and I'm sure Apple is working on having it catch up with the iPhone and iPad, despite having a different UI. Is it really that hard to believe that macs may also be running a unified OS 3 or 4 years from now?

Originally Posted by mstone

Sorry no, but then I had almost no content at that time. Now I have it completely full of movies so it will be interesting tonight when I upgrade.

Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Other new features that iOS 4.2 brings to the iPad include: the ability to rent TV episodes directly to iPad using the iTunes App with a 30 day viewing window and a 48 hour session window once playback is started...

Originally Posted by MacDevil

Find My iPhone is now free? What the heck am still I paying that $100 to MobileMe for? Apple might as well make the whole service free, as Find My iPhone is the only MobileMe feature really worth paying for.

Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss

Sync first is my suggestion, though I suspect I don't need to make it. If I do a restore now, will it take me back to iOS 3.0, or directly to 4.2 with my backed up apps and data? I feel like an idiot for even asking this question, but I've never had to do a reset on any i-device before. I'm holding off on updating my iPhone to 4.2 until I feel better about this.

Originally Posted by pondosinatra

Removing the functionality of the screen orientation lock means I won't be upgrading. I don't care how 'insanely great' the upgrade is.

Originally Posted by pondosinatra

Removing the functionality of the screen orientation lock means I won't be upgrading. I don't care how 'insanely great' the upgrade is.

Update: I read somewhere all you have to do is press the home button twice? Can someone confirm? If so, this is different from previous reports that it took half a dozen 'clicks' and menu options to set.

Originally Posted by MacDevil

Find My iPhone is now free? What the heck am still I paying that $100 to MobileMe for? Apple might as well make the whole service free, as Find My iPhone is the only MobileMe feature really worth paying for.

Originally Posted by anonymouse

I don't understand the big deal about this, the functionality is still there, just through a different mechanism. The software lock is pretty easy to use, easier than the hardware with a case on.

Home button twice, scroll to left (swipe right), lock orientation.

Originally Posted by pondosinatra

Ok, so four actions for what used to take one. I fail to see how this is anything but a step backwards...even if it is somewhat less onerous than originally thought.

Originally Posted by anonymouse

Four actions, but with a case on, probably half the time.