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post #121 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

All-App Multi-Tasking means just that - The OS allows any/all apps (including 3rd party) to multi-task just as the native apps do.

My iDevices only allow Apple's native apps, and some select 3rd party ones, to run in the background... All others are simply suspended.

What you call "All-App Multi-Tasking" is idiotic to put into a mobile device, for the following reasons:

1. Drain on resources - battery, CPU, and memory.

2. Poor (overall) performance - see #1

3. Due to the UI on mobile devices, not all apps need to be multitasking.

For those apps which need to be multitasking, ios allows those apps access to multitasking services to handle background processing, streaming, etc. Between ios multitasking services, and notifications, battery, CPU, and memory usage are minimized.

That's why IOS devices get excellent battery life and android devices don't.
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post #122 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by Pomme View Post

There is not reason whatsoever that the good, productive members of this forum need be subjected to such behaviour!

Dramatic Much?

You just happen to disagree with some of my posts, and appear to lack the tact/maturity to deal with it respectfully and rationally.

My Mantra: Post and Let Post Alike.
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post #123 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

One click in Spare Parts and a reboot, and all 224 apps I have installed run beautifully at full screen with no pixelation to be seen (love that nice/tight pixel density).

They have 224 apps for Android!?!?!?!
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post #124 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

I call bullshit on the 600,000 "sold"... maybe 600,000 shipped with only 150,000 actually sold.

It might not even be 600K shipped--just orders for 600K--with far fewer actually in end-users' hands.
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post #125 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by jca666us View Post

They have 224 apps for Android!?!?!?!

No, no, no ,no... 224 versions of the same app...
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post #126 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:45pm
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

DaHarder bought 300,000 of those.

Well, the man does have a lot of pockets!

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post #127 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post

It might not even be 600K shipped--just orders for 600K--with far fewer actually in end-users' hands.

This is great, how about we all sit around and try to justify in our head how these numbers can't be real. Funny how I didn't see anyone doing then when Apple iPad rumors were out without any real numbers or infomation from Apple. The people on this site are amazing.
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post #128 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by tangomoo View Post

To be more accurate, Samsung sold 600K to its (tens of) carriers. How many end users bought it or the number in their stock or supplier chain is still unknown. Anyway the 600K looks not that bad.

Bingo! Is this "shipped to retailer", or "sold to consumer"? Classic accounting distinction that means everything. Which is it?
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post #129 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

How many iPad users here on AI feel an overhwleming desire to join Android rumor sites and post continually to extoll the superiority of your iPad over Android devices?

Any ideas why posters like DaHarder do it? It sure sounds like an inferiority complex to me. I mean. come on, over a thousand posts in just over a year, all negative, derisive. and demeaning to all things Apple. And why do the moderators allow this to go on and on, day after day when the intent is obvious?

Not me. I love my iPad. And so do millions of other people. We got nothing to prove. And that's good enough for me.
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post #130 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post

Please stop talking about Human Factors/Ergonomics.

As a Mechanical Engineer who also decided to add Ergonomics electives to my degrees the entire "science" behind it borrows 99% from Kinematics [minus the actual Kinematics calculated as it's punted to us Engineers] and 1% Psychology BS.

Funny, that's the same ratio of perspiration to inspiration as in genius...

You can't get very far with a Psychology BS...more like Psychology PhD. Try to design systems based on 99% kinematics results in systems that miss the human aspect and addresses only the body aspect. As in "nice feeling tablet...too bad the workflow and usability sucks and it's as ugly as a brick".

I don't recall Tog's background but Jef's was CS and philosophy or music if I remember right.
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post #131 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

The people on this site are amazing.

Why thank you.
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post #132 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Why thank you.

Well I understand that someone like you has to use the internet. If you went out in person you would most likely spend half your life getting bitch slapped around.
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post #133 of 336
11/22/10 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by deuxlavabo View Post

...I think you missed his point -- if there are three of you, and you have "three each" in your household, that means your household has 9 of them.

He whines all about ios but still fails to clarify his ambiguous statement.
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post #134 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Sure You Were...

Anyway, regarding your claims of my allegedly questionable 'grammar', 3 Each means 3 of Each Individual Item, as used often used in military vernacular, so maybe it's you who has the writing/reading comprehension issue.

Go back to school and learn some decent English before you com here and whine like a little boy. Everyone would agree your first statement meant that each member of your family has 3 tabs.
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post #135 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:07pm
this $99 Walgreens 7-inch Android Chinese knockoff that runs 1.6 is better than an Ipad also...

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/revie...0#comments-bar

the reviewer actually said to burn it..

Google whores its OS to any dirty knockoff company? it eFF-ing looks exactly like an iPad except for the WHITE home button.. see, see what they did there. It's a white home button editon iPad. The blatant copyin has me throwin up in my mouth a lil..

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post #136 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Well I understand that someone like you has to use the internet. If you went out in person you would most likely spend half your life getting bitch slapped around.

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post #137 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:09pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

So clearly there are those in the world that would just rather have the Android OS, with no buyers remorse.


One might wonder if the plethora of sanctioned pornography is the so-called "killer app" of Android?
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post #138 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

How many iPad users here on AI feel an overhwleming desire to join Android rumor sites and post continually to extoll the superiority of your iPad ove

No. I simply don't care about Android

iPad is one of the few items I have bought which I like more each day I use it.
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post #139 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by fila97 View Post

Go back to school and learn some decent English before you com here and whine like a little boy. Everyone would agree your first statement meant that each member of your family has 3 tabs.

If by 'everyone' you mean you and your lacking ability to comprehend written language, then Yes, 'everyone.'

Now do you have anything constructive/intelligent to add to the topic at hand, or is your mission solely to wage personal attacks?
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post #140 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:11pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Any claims I've ever made have all been 100% factual, and proven on numerous occasions, so take your Hate/Vitriol/Lies Elsewhere...


EDIT: BTW... I Challenge You To Prove Any of Your Lies.

who sells the galaxy tab with no additional cost for using the 3g hotspot
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post #141 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by Pomme View Post

One might wonder if the plethora of sanctioned pornography is the so-called "killer app" of Android?

with .flv running the porn vids, the battery might/not last long enough to be useful. ahem..
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post #142 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by screamingfist View Post

who sells the galaxy tab with no additional cost for using the 3g hotspot

Neither Verizon nor T-Mobile charge anything extra to utilize the Galaxy Tab's 3g Mobile Hotspot feature.

It's a very nice 'value added' bit from both carriers - IMO.
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post #143 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by Pomme View Post

One might wonder if the plethora of sanctioned pornography is the so-called "killer app" of Android?

I would think Apple fanboys would want porn more seeing more of them can't get girlfriends.
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post #144 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by crift2012 View Post

with .flv running the porn vids, the battery might/not last long enough to be useful. ahem..

So what are you saying that Android users can last longer and iPad users have premature issues?
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post #145 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by Pomme View Post

It is a well known fact that Android apps are vastly inferior to their iOS brethren.

i think vlingo is better on android especially since you can't run 'incar' on ios yet.

but there is that 'not quite there' zone with many android apps.

when apple stops banning whatever they feel like banning in app store and tones down the whole control freak attitude i would go back to iphone (maybe).
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post #146 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

I would think Apple fanboys would want porn more seeing more of them can't get girlfriends.

in my case, I have 3 gfs, and 2 of them know about each other, and like, I mean LIKE each other. I have no need for porn. My computer all macs, make me thousands a months a piece. My Macs are only non-productive is when I sit and post against all of the rhetoric on AI made by hyperbolic insults by trolls.
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post #147 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

If by 'everyone' you mean you and your lacking ability to comprehend written language, then Yes, 'everyone.'

Now do you have anything constructive/intelligent to add to the topic at hand, or is your mission solely to wage personal attacks?

Yes I meant everyone and that means anyone with proficient English.
Now do you have anything constructive/intelligent to add to the topic at hand, or is your mission solely to prove every iDevices is inferior compared to any other consumer electronic device?
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post #148 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

So what are you saying that Android users can last longer and iPad users have premature issues?

no the android users running flash would have the premature issues, because iPad users get at least 10 hours running HD video
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post #149 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

This is great, how about we all sit around and try to justify in our head how these numbers can't be real. Funny how I didn't see anyone doing then when Apple iPad rumors were out without any real numbers or infomation from Apple. The people on this site are amazing.

Where were you? People on this site did question what the sales figures from Apple meant, particularly since Apple has been the groundbreaker/innovator in these new markets with so many naysayers trying to stop the stampede. You might also give us credit for recognizing daft engineering when we see it and questioning the gullibility of consumers to buy it.
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post #150 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:33pm
600k devices may not match Apple, but its still pretty impressive. Microsoft would probably cream their pants if they could sell 600k Zunes in one month against Apple, so hats off to Samsung.
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post #151 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by fila97 View Post

Yes I meant everyone and that means anyone with proficient English.
Now do you have anything constructive/intelligent to add to the topic at hand, or is your mission solely to prove every iDevices is inferior compared to any other consumer electronic device?

Hmmm?

I own enough Apple wares to fully understand both their attributes as well as their deficiencies.

Additionally: You might want to read the thread topic again, given that it is worded in a manner that directly compares its sales numbers against those of Samsung's Galaxy Tab (among other underlying things).
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post #152 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

No more so than there exsist a solution for the 'fragmentation' that exists for all those early iDevice owners that can't run many of the newer iOS apps.

I think you're trolling but WTF, I'm bored and maybe you're open to reason.

I'm running the latest version of iOS on my 2-and-a-half-year-old iPhone 3G and have yet to find a newer app that doesn't run well on it. My Android phone, barely over a year old at this point, is already stuck at v. 2.1 and has problems even with running apps that came out when it was new.

I suspect you don't actually have intimate, firsthand experience with both platforms. If you did, you'd see clearly that, while there may be fragmentation on both, only one actually suffers to such a degree that it affects user experience and degrades device functionality.

FWIW, Froyo has been out for over six months at this point and it still isn't the predominant version of Android out there.

http://developer.android.com/resourc...-versions.html

You seriously consider that to be comparable to whatever negligible fragmentation exists amongst iOS devices?

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post #153 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:36pm
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Originally Posted by crift2012 View Post

no the android users running flash would have the premature issues, because iPad users get at least 10 hours running HD video

Too bad my iPad (or anyone else's) can't even display HD Video.
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post #154 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by blursd View Post

600k devices may not match Apple, but its still pretty impressive. Microsoft would probably cream their pants if they could sell 600k Zunes in one month against Apple, so hats off to Samsung.

It will be impressive if it's sustained. Remember, there's always a burst of sales for a device that gets any amount of publicity or hype and the Galaxy has certainly not lacked either of those. If they can continue to sell in those numbers in the coming months, then sure, it will be impressive. Initial sales of a device, especially where there's pent-up geek demand, is almost meaningless.

And yes, that applies to Apple's products too. I don't ever buy into the hype over initial sales. I think that's pointless.

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post #155 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by inkswamp View Post

I'm running the latest version of iOS on my 2-and-a-half-year-old iPhone 3G and have yet to find a newer app that doesn't run well on it. My Android phone, barely over a year old at this point, is already stuck at v. 2.1 and has problems even with running apps that came out when it was new.

You seriously consider that to be comparable to whatever negligible fragmentation exists amongst iOS devices?

The discussion wasn't about 'degree' of fragmentation, merely that it exists on both platforms... which it certainly does.

Thanks for the input nonetheless.
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post #156 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by inkswamp View Post

I think you're trolling but WTF, I'm bored and maybe you're open to reason.

I'm running the latest version of iOS on my 2-and-a-half-year-old iPhone 3G and have yet to find a newer app that doesn't run well on it. My Android phone, barely over a year old at this point, is already stuck at v. 2.1 and has problems even with running apps that came out when it was new.

I suspect you don't actually have intimate, firsthand experience with both platforms. If you did, you'd see clearly that, while there may be fragmentation on both, only one actually suffers to such a degree that it affects user experience and degrades device functionality.

FWIW, Froyo has been out for over six months at this point and it still isn't the predominant version of Android out there.

http://developer.android.com/resourc...-versions.html

You seriously consider that to be comparable to whatever negligible fragmentation exists amongst iOS devices?

android is a f'ed up mess.
anyone buying an android device without putting in a lot of study time into just what you are getting is a fool. new devices with 1.6? its just f****** dumb. i really hope they put the stops on that crap.
but you can walk in off the street, buy an iphone 4 and know next to nothing and be pretty happy with it.
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post #157 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by inkswamp View Post

It will be impressive if it's sustained. Remember, there's always a burst of sales for a device that gets any amount of publicity or hype and the Galaxy has certainly not lacked either of those. If they can continue to sell in those numbers in the coming months, then sure, it will be impressive. Initial sales of a device, especially where there's pent-up geek demand, is almost meaningless.

And yes, that applies to Apple's products too. I don't ever buy into the hype over initial sales. I think that's pointless.

i am amazed that there are 600k idiots out there who would buy this thing. even google says 2.2 is crap for tablets. has to be BS on that number?
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post #158 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by blursd View Post

600k devices may not match Apple, but its still pretty impressive. Microsoft would probably cream their pants if they could sell 600k Zunes in one month against Apple, so hats off to Samsung.

I am wrong? But didnt Apple sell a million in less than month only in North America? w/o 3G? full price, no contracts?

And doesn't everyone remember when the Palm Pre "sold" 300K units, but it was more like 300K units shipped to vendors? Then they promptly went BOGO on the PRE, and even quicker to bankruptcy. So 600K shipped to multiple international vendors sounds like the whole production run shipped to vendors.

Apple SOLD everything they had, and had to cut off the sales off their site. Where were the lines for the Galaxy Tab? I have yet to see one anywhere.
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post #159 of 336
11/22/10 at 4:56pm
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I am wrong? But didnt Apple sell a million in less than month only in North America? w/o 3G? full price, no contracts?

And doesn't everyone remember when the Palm Pre "sold" 300K units, but it was more like 300K units shipped to vendors? Then they promptly went BOGO on the PRE, and even quicker to bankruptcy. So 600K shipped to multiple international vendors sounds like the whole production run shipped to vendors.

Apple SOLD everything they had, and had to cut off the sales off their site. Where were the lines for the Galaxy Tab? I have yet to see one anywhere.

Could simply be that consumers buying Galaxy Tabs are just far less fanatical/cultish than their Cupertino-loving counterparts.

Who Knows... Who Really Cares, because the numbers are solid, and the device is outstanding for those who embrace what it has to offer.

Personally, I don't care if they sold but one, as long as that one was to me, because I absolutely appreciate mine.
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post #160 of 336
11/22/10 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

I guess I misunderstood when you countered that my statement was entirely untrue when I replied to another poster as to why the moderators have not kicked him off the site.

Ah. Naw, I was just weighing in on my perception of DaHarder in general.
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