Samsung's global Galaxy Tab sales lag behind Apple iPad at 600K - Page 7

Its beyond funny. We should start a group for them call the frantic fanboys. They are more worried about everyone else failing that when someone acutally does well they flip out.

They thought they were finally past it all when MS starting to drop now that Google and Android are doing well the inferiority complex is in full swing.

That's a big mistake on samsung's part.

the 'frantic fanboys' should start group for you called the 'pathetic losers'. oh wait, you are a founding father of that group...

Im a fanboy of great technology, no matter who makes it. My Macbook Pro, iPad, HTC Evo and Windows 7 gaming system all get along fine and really they don't fight at all.

They all work together, sync togther, hell I bet I can even have them all sit down for Christmas dinner without any issues.

Yeah and clearly you can't help but come up here and defend the OS you love so much. Clearly the frantic fandriods can't restrain themselves too.

Obviously you haven't read some of the reviews - that indicate the galaxy tab is slow as shit.

2.2 isn't optimized and it shows!

If you are going to hang around here you really need to do better then that. You know something that has a little snap to it. That was just a really bad attempt.

LOL, you're forgetting that he supposedly buys every single Apple product only to then buy a competitors product and realize how crappy the Apple product was. You would think that he would give up on Apple altogether by now and just buy the perfect other product.

Show me where I defended Android in this thread. You are talking out your ass. Been here a month and you already have no clue.

In English?

Here you go. Been here for 4 years plus and yet no clue.

Not at all what I've read, and seeing as how I own a Fascinate still running 2.1, I believe them when they say how quick it is.

I will say the Fascinate used a bad file system not native to linux, but a fix for this was literally as easy as plugging in the usb, and running a file.

So if people are complaining about things like applications list taking a second or two to load, they very well could be talking about Samsung's poor choice for the file system (unless they changed it for the tab.)

Updates for the galaxy S phone apparently deal with this issue, but since I rooted and removed bloatware, I can't apply the update without risking some bad stuff happening (much like someone jumping through hoops to update a jailbroken iphone.)

If the galaxy tab is as fast as my fascinate, then it's definitely a far cry from "slow as shit."

I'm going to bed.

Troll trolling other troll. That's how low this place has sunk to now.

Didn't take you long to sign up anew, did it?

And again. Poor Daharder.

There is no 'perfect' product, but I do endeavor to buy/use any/everything that suits my needs/desires at the time... when it's all said and done, that's entirely my right, and none of it (or anything else I do) is remotely any of your business one way or another.

Maybe you should make a greater effort to lay off the personal attacks/matters and stick to the topic at hand.

Then again it could be that envy/jealously of those who do have the ability to acquire what they want/when they want has made such rational behavior impossible.

Either way, I really don't care what you (or any of these other fanatics) think of me or what I have or do.

Have A Nice Day.

Had to chuckle at this, nice work.

and a fair amount of the commentary comes from a collection of individuals that ironically are well-contained on my ignore list:
appl Archipellago AsianBob bartfat bettieblue blackbyrd Blackintosh Chopper chronster Coolaaron88 cycomiko DaHarder dasanman69 djmikeo erybovic extremeskater Foo2 FreeRange frugality g3pro geekdad gin_tonic grking jayhammy jeffreytgilbert Joe hs joindup knwbuddy kotatsu MenLoveToys mikemikeb Newtron nikon133 Pennywse Prof. Peabody RationalTroll Ricardo Dawkins RichL samab sapporobabyrtrns Scaramanga89 screamingfist SendMe Sensi SHOBIZ Steve-J Superbass Tallest Skil wizard69

When compacted ignoreds occupy as much space as the regular commenters, it's time to give this forum a rest. You reasonable and enthusiastic folks, keep up the good work - and try to leave some of these less reasonable folk simply echoing in the User CP hallways without response.

Briefly back on topic: It is a fact that Samsung reports solely into the channel not retails end purchaser sales. And while Apple did blend in the Best Buy channel supplies - they were only a small percentage of the total number sold to customers by Apple.

So now, I bid you all adieu, may your holidays be as pleasant as you wish them to be.

Yeah, they probably just stuffed the channel with their initial production run and then announce big numbers.

Actual sales to end-users would be infinitely more comparable to the numbers that Apple announces, as the vast majority of stuff Apple produces, it sells directly to customers.

Bingo... and it's not like this is just an Apple/Microsoft thing either. When you have a single solution that is better than other solutions, different groups of smart people will both independently reach the same conclusion. This happens all the time.

However, it's even more pronounced with technology because we keep hitting points where certain technologies become economically feasible, so suddenly something that wasn't used by anyone is being used by everyone... and to the untrained eye it looks like a lot of companies are just copying each other.

Where Apple have the advantage is that one, they sell premium products so their "economically feasible" point for a new technology is earlier than most other companies. Two, they control their products end to end (hardware and software) so it's easier to implement a product line with new technology and three, they have an incredible nimble structure that lets them move from concept to market very quickly.

Look at the new MacBook Air. It comes standard with an SSD (soldered into the board, but still essentially an SSD). In 12 months when SSD's are economically feasible for the mainstream I guarantee that Dell will offer SSD's as standard across the board.

Another example. Apple have announced a Mac "App Store" which we will see next year. Microsoft are also working on a Windows "App Store"... but we won't see it until Windows 8 (around 2012). However, and this is something I would put money on, there will be a lot of people saying "Microsoft copied the Mac App Store in Windows 8" when Windows 8 is released.

That's not to take away from the innovations Apple have made, and there are plenty of them.

People who look at every Apple invention and say "Apple might have done it first, but it was inevitable anyway" are at one end of the spectrum and those who say "Apple did it first, everyone else copied" are at the other. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.

You didn't answer the question. Where in this thread did I defend Android or say it was better then iOS? Which was your big bitch. You couldn't answer the question so you just decided to respond with something stupid.

I like to think that I'm moderately objective about Android's strengths and weaknesses, just as I am about Apple products. I generally have what some would perceive to be an Apple bias, though that's usually just because the products are better.

That said...

I think the Galaxy Tablet is garbage. Well, not garbage, but why anyone would buy this over an iPad is beyond me. I didn't find the user experience to be nearly as functional and elegant as the iPad's is. I felt like I was using a clunky OS, and generally I don't think Android is that bad. It just doesn't feel right on a larger screen and the touch elements simply aren't as natural as that of the iPad.

And after owning an iPad from day one, I'll tell you that I can't imagine using a 7" tablet. I felt like I was using an over-sized Evo 4G. Some people may like the smaller size, but I was honestly shocked by how dramatic of a difference there was. It just felt too small. If I'm going to go small, I want it to be small enough to fit in a jeans pocket. If I'm going tablet, I'm with Jobs on this one, give me that 10" screen. It's far better for reading, surfing the web, e-mail.

I'll definitely give the Galaxy an edge for video watching though as you can skip the black bars as it's 16:9. For video, that is nice in this day and age, but for a tablet that will function for more than just video, 4:3 really is a better aspect ratio. I also like that it will work with any carrier. Hopefully the iPad will work that out in version 2, which I will be buying day one once again.

600k units in the first month is a really respectable start for a product that's clearly launching in the shadow of the iPad, and perhaps more so, the entire Apple iOS line. I am shocked by these numbers to be honest, but good for them. We'll see how it sustains though, as I really believe that the iPad is objectively a far superior product in the majority of ways, and I expect iPad 2 to be even better.

Apple never comes to the table with new technology before others. Hell they just started to put quad core in their "desktop" iMacs. Lets talk about RAID. Lets talk about they charge twices as much for a GPU that has been around for a year.

SSD are offered by almost everyone.

New technology get real.

If you're dumb enough not to see my respond then I guess big bitch applies to you yourself. Your shitting out of your mouth so you just decided to respond with something fucked up.

It would appear that you fail to appreciate that a 7 inch screen is insufficient to properly express tablet applications. This may become increasingly clear as usage is accumulated.

Indeed the capabilities of the iPad include the ability to display video content encoded in 720p. The android contingent claims that because the iPad cannot display such content at 720p, it is therefore "not HD". But their semantic considerations cannot overcome the reality of 720p content being displayed by an iPad.

Which is exactly what my iPad's UI is... except the excessively wide placement of the icons on the iPad makes it look even less space efficient than on the iPhone/iPod Touch.

Essentially, iOS works because it's as simplistic as humanly possible, and so familiar to many, though it's hardly ideal or flexible for the more demanding user.

At least Android allows for the use of live widgets, various home-screen apps, and user selectable icon spacing, and maybe your 'disagreement' stems from a lack of creativity/wherewithal to truly utilize its bountiful customization features/options.

Oh Well... More for the rest of us.

Isn't it long past time you tweaked your Android's UI, adjusted the power settings, maybe killed a few apps, swapped a battery, or rebooted? Google knows, how you have time to comment here. Seriously. Google also knows when you have time to comment here.

Yes. Type s-l-o-w-e-r.

He almost had me until he said "the spouse". Never happen.

Probably for the best given that I Really Don't Want You (or your approval) -

So you think Apple doesn't tend to mass deploy technology and ideas before other companies?

That's funny.

for the interface, which was all I talked about.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...wdown?page=0,1



I have never declared that any other device or item had a clearly preferable user experience. OTOH, I do not take the view, that many here express, that simply because it is not Apple, the item under discussion is a priori worthless and a piece of crap. So, for example, I have consistently said that if one's needs do not exceed that of a High School student then iWork is great, and Office is overkill. OTOH, iWork has serious limitations for more professional work, particularly Numbers vs Excel. Thus, I never said that Office was clearly preferable, I said that it depended on one's needs.


There is no drive to refute "fan boys" unless you consider correcting factually incorrect statements a "fucked up mental illness", although in this day and age where facts no longer exist or are at least irrelevant, and demagoguery is king, your statement makes a certain sense. So for example, I posted a response to a post that claimed the iPhones not running iOS 4.2 been discontinued for 2 years. This is not true, as the 3G has not been discontinued for 2 years, but actually less than a year.

I own only Apple equipment, and there is much to love about Apple, and much that is wrong with other equipment, without the need for blind, mindless Apple is perfect attitude, and the believe that any false statement about other companies (e.g., MS) is perfectly fine.

you mean the first Iphone thats over three years old. Thats a big difference from buying a new phone and 3 months later a new update to the os comes out with new features and you can't update your $500 phone

Okay again. Show me a quote where I was defending Android or knocking iOS in this thread. You yet again said nothing other then making yourself look like an ass. Which appears to be the only thing that comes easy to you.

"If you're dumb enough not to see my respond "

LOL, yeah that must be it.

No tablet can compare to the iPad launch, since the iPad was firstthe one that created the category. After that, anything else is following the trail of an already-accepted product type.

But the only sales number I care about is the one unit that goes to me

It is wonderful that those who enjoy Android can be unmercifully insulted here. This is an incredible forum!

In theory you might be right, but in practice, that simply isn't the case. So many applications are poorly written that, when combined with Android's multitasking, create serious issues in terms of performance, battery life and usability.

Remember when the Facebook app was overhauled to try to match the iOS version? There was a partial wake lock bug. My Droid dropped 30% battery between 8 am and lunch from just sitting on my desk.

No tablet? Not even this one?

DYNAMIC...CUSTOMIZABLE...MODERN!!! That's all that matters, right?