Samsung's global Galaxy Tab sales lag behind Apple iPad at 600K - Page 7

Yeah, they probably just stuffed the channel with their initial production run and then announce big numbers.

Actual sales to end-users would be infinitely more comparable to the numbers that Apple announces, as the vast majority of stuff Apple produces, it sells directly to customers.

Bingo... and it's not like this is just an Apple/Microsoft thing either. When you have a single solution that is better than other solutions, different groups of smart people will both independently reach the same conclusion. This happens all the time.

However, it's even more pronounced with technology because we keep hitting points where certain technologies become economically feasible, so suddenly something that wasn't used by anyone is being used by everyone... and to the untrained eye it looks like a lot of companies are just copying each other.

Where Apple have the advantage is that one, they sell premium products so their "economically feasible" point for a new technology is earlier than most other companies. Two, they control their products end to end (hardware and software) so it's easier to implement a product line with new technology and three, they have an incredible nimble structure that lets them move from concept to market very quickly.

Look at the new MacBook Air. It comes standard with an SSD (soldered into the board, but still essentially an SSD). In 12 months when SSD's are economically feasible for the mainstream I guarantee that Dell will offer SSD's as standard across the board.

Another example. Apple have announced a Mac "App Store" which we will see next year. Microsoft are also working on a Windows "App Store"... but we won't see it until Windows 8 (around 2012). However, and this is something I would put money on, there will be a lot of people saying "Microsoft copied the Mac App Store in Windows 8" when Windows 8 is released.

That's not to take away from the innovations Apple have made, and there are plenty of them.

People who look at every Apple invention and say "Apple might have done it first, but it was inevitable anyway" are at one end of the spectrum and those who say "Apple did it first, everyone else copied" are at the other. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.

I like to think that I'm moderately objective about Android's strengths and weaknesses, just as I am about Apple products. I generally have what some would perceive to be an Apple bias, though that's usually just because the products are better.

That said...

I think the Galaxy Tablet is garbage. Well, not garbage, but why anyone would buy this over an iPad is beyond me. I didn't find the user experience to be nearly as functional and elegant as the iPad's is. I felt like I was using a clunky OS, and generally I don't think Android is that bad. It just doesn't feel right on a larger screen and the touch elements simply aren't as natural as that of the iPad.

And after owning an iPad from day one, I'll tell you that I can't imagine using a 7" tablet. I felt like I was using an over-sized Evo 4G. Some people may like the smaller size, but I was honestly shocked by how dramatic of a difference there was. It just felt too small. If I'm going to go small, I want it to be small enough to fit in a jeans pocket. If I'm going tablet, I'm with Jobs on this one, give me that 10" screen. It's far better for reading, surfing the web, e-mail.

I'll definitely give the Galaxy an edge for video watching though as you can skip the black bars as it's 16:9. For video, that is nice in this day and age, but for a tablet that will function for more than just video, 4:3 really is a better aspect ratio. I also like that it will work with any carrier. Hopefully the iPad will work that out in version 2, which I will be buying day one once again.

600k units in the first month is a really respectable start for a product that's clearly launching in the shadow of the iPad, and perhaps more so, the entire Apple iOS line. I am shocked by these numbers to be honest, but good for them. We'll see how it sustains though, as I really believe that the iPad is objectively a far superior product in the majority of ways, and I expect iPad 2 to be even better.

If you're dumb enough not to see my respond then I guess big bitch applies to you yourself. Your shitting out of your mouth so you just decided to respond with something fucked up.

It would appear that you fail to appreciate that a 7 inch screen is insufficient to properly express tablet applications. This may become increasingly clear as usage is accumulated.

Indeed the capabilities of the iPad include the ability to display video content encoded in 720p. The android contingent claims that because the iPad cannot display such content at 720p, it is therefore "not HD". But their semantic considerations cannot overcome the reality of 720p content being displayed by an iPad.

Which is exactly what my iPad's UI is... except the excessively wide placement of the icons on the iPad makes it look even less space efficient than on the iPhone/iPod Touch.

Essentially, iOS works because it's as simplistic as humanly possible, and so familiar to many, though it's hardly ideal or flexible for the more demanding user.

At least Android allows for the use of live widgets, various home-screen apps, and user selectable icon spacing, and maybe your 'disagreement' stems from a lack of creativity/wherewithal to truly utilize its bountiful customization features/options.

Oh Well... More for the rest of us.

Isn't it long past time you tweaked your Android's UI, adjusted the power settings, maybe killed a few apps, swapped a battery, or rebooted? Google knows, how you have time to comment here. Seriously. Google also knows when you have time to comment here.

Yes. Type s-l-o-w-e-r.

He almost had me until he said "the spouse". Never happen.

Probably for the best given that I Really Don't Want You (or your approval) -

So you think Apple doesn't tend to mass deploy technology and ideas before other companies?

That's funny.

for the interface, which was all I talked about.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...wdown?page=0,1



I have never declared that any other device or item had a clearly preferable user experience. OTOH, I do not take the view, that many here express, that simply because it is not Apple, the item under discussion is a priori worthless and a piece of crap. So, for example, I have consistently said that if one's needs do not exceed that of a High School student then iWork is great, and Office is overkill. OTOH, iWork has serious limitations for more professional work, particularly Numbers vs Excel. Thus, I never said that Office was clearly preferable, I said that it depended on one's needs.


There is no drive to refute "fan boys" unless you consider correcting factually incorrect statements a "fucked up mental illness", although in this day and age where facts no longer exist or are at least irrelevant, and demagoguery is king, your statement makes a certain sense. So for example, I posted a response to a post that claimed the iPhones not running iOS 4.2 been discontinued for 2 years. This is not true, as the 3G has not been discontinued for 2 years, but actually less than a year.

I own only Apple equipment, and there is much to love about Apple, and much that is wrong with other equipment, without the need for blind, mindless Apple is perfect attitude, and the believe that any false statement about other companies (e.g., MS) is perfectly fine.

you mean the first Iphone thats over three years old. Thats a big difference from buying a new phone and 3 months later a new update to the os comes out with new features and you can't update your $500 phone

No tablet can compare to the iPad launch, since the iPad was firstthe one that created the category. After that, anything else is following the trail of an already-accepted product type.

But the only sales number I care about is the one unit that goes to me

It is wonderful that those who enjoy Android can be unmercifully insulted here. This is an incredible forum!

In theory you might be right, but in practice, that simply isn't the case. So many applications are poorly written that, when combined with Android's multitasking, create serious issues in terms of performance, battery life and usability.

Remember when the Facebook app was overhauled to try to match the iOS version? There was a partial wake lock bug. My Droid dropped 30% battery between 8 am and lunch from just sitting on my desk.

No tablet? Not even this one?

DYNAMIC...CUSTOMIZABLE...MODERN!!! That's all that matters, right?

Sure... Whatever...

That 'thing' isn't remotely comparable to the Samsung Galaxy Tab or iPad, as one must first have a solid hardware foundation on which to build, so even presenting it as such (even in jest) only shows just how much of an unlearned TROLL you truly are.

Enough Said!

IGenius/bunch of other I can't remember/Steve-j/Bill G/Pomme. One appearing with 24 hours of the previous identity being banned, always with a rapid post run-up in clusters in the morning and evening.

And always tending towards lame affirmations that he apparently thinks are artful parodies of fan boys. Honestly, this has been going on so long I think he's literally insane. I don't think that generally about trolls, but this guy is so persistent, and so one note, as to be vaguely horrifying.

Like a guy sitting at the end of the bar with a little fixed grin repeating everything he hears with a weird accent.

I'm not the one with over a thousand troll posts, buddy

... and you certainly aren't the one who actually thinks for himself, posting according to actual experience with these devices, rather than regurgitating each/every lame taking point read on some fanatical internet forum.

did you buy joojoo

One for each slot that anyone has.

You are somehow a genius in disguise

Do you

Quick question how to add multiple users to ignore list.

That's awesome how yours is the first post and touting the joys of Samsung and Android. I propose to you, Sir, if you aren't getting paid for this, you really should. Really.

Wow you are making your own Samsung advertising graphics now! Great font by the way, you are certainly suited for Windows/ Linux/ Android. So how much will you be selling your Apple devices on eBay? Enquiring minds want to know.

Battery life is nice too.

It *is* truly horrifying, not just vaguely. Like, honestly, it is psychiatrically disturbing.

Anyways this thread got raped from the very first post so toodles people.

Not Linux it doesn't need such retards. He is meant for windows 95/98/me/Vista.
I think he is Son of Steve Ballmer

Oh man, this is not the topic I want to participate but pls do not resort to outright lie. This is not only opposite to my personal experience but also contrary to a recent survey. Shame on you.

So, you're trying to say there is some truth in the rumour that all Mac users are arrogant snobs?

Looks like he must be getting paid for providing all the tech support (changing home screen UI's) for Andriod hence Andriod pays him.

Android allows the use of a lot of things, which is why the UI looks like a mess. It's easy to slap things together (android), but much harder to keep things organized and cohesive (apple), but from a UI perspective, Apple's approach is better.

Actually the iPad's UI is not the same as the iPhone. Apple made a few enhancements to allow the UI to take advantage of the screen real estate.

As for customization - like copy/paste, multitasking, video chatting, etc. When apple gets around to fixing notifications, and offering widgets, etc. they will do it better than everyone else.

Thanks for the link and the link to the link of the photos of the many possible uses for it.
Seriously, good Android products will be like finding the proverbial needle in the haystack. Not so much now, but say in 6 or 12 months time. There will be hundreds and hundreds of these, from the el-cheapo $50 up to the $1,000 plus units. So how would one choose ? Sure a android nerd could easily, and most likely will be picturing rooting it while he rubs his hands over it with glee.
But what about the typical consumer, those that don't have that much to spend, they will be tricked into buying an inferior product.

You know what, I'm going to stay with my iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch, and Macs.
We now have one iOS, which is common to most idevices, I know when I will get updates and will not have to beg the carrier/manufacturer for one.
I will officially hand over my iPad to my kids and let them fight over it while I gleefully play with iPad 2, until my wife/kids notice it and steal it too.

Pardon my spelling as its late here in Australia.

Apple rules and Androids drools

OK, to balance thing a bit from numerous DaHarder' posts, this is a quote posted in MacRumor forum:
I love all my Apple products, today for the fifth time going into Best Buy playing with the Galaxy Tab I decided to buy one to get more hands on feel knowing that I have 30 days to get a full return on it. To start I have the EVO phone and I love it for the Hot Spot for my iPad. Anyways I did return the Galaxy Tab already its no where smooth like the iPad, The iPad just feels so much better, the icons on the G-Tab where lagging and the web the script would have a buzz look while scrolling then it would get clear plus I felt like I had two phones so in the end that was my 3 hour tour of the Galaxy Tab, cant wait for generation 2 on the iPad.

The reason I post this is his experience is as same as mine (when I played with the Tab). The only difference is I don't have to buy it to know it's not for me.