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The second-largest computer manufacturer in the world, Acer, is hedging its bets in the fight for tablet supremacy, with plans to take on the iPad with a 7-inch Android tablet, and two 10.1-inch devices -- one running Microsoft Windows.

Acer's two Android-based tablets will ship in April 2011. The 10.1-inch model is 13.3mm thick with an aluminum casing, and it features a built-in HDMI port with 1080p capabilities.

The larger Android tablet will have both Wi-Fi and 3G connectivity, as well as multi-touch input and an internal gyroscope. No pricing for any of the hardware revealed this week was announced.

The 7-inch Android tablet will sport a 1280-by-800-pixel display with a 16-by-10 aspect ratio. It also comes with a forward-facing HD camera, and like its larger counterpart, it also has an HDMI port and wireless connectivity with 3G and Wi-Fi.

Acer also touted that its 7-inch tablet will feature a dual-core processor, and will run Adobe Flash Player 10.1. It will also offer a "truly amazing sound experience" with Dolby Mobile Technology.



The 10.1-inch Windows 7 tablet is launching sooner, in February 2011. That hardware will come with a docking device that includes a full-size keyboard, and will weigh less than a kilogram at just 15mm thick.

The Windows 7-based device will run an AMD processor and will sport two 1.3-megapixel cameras -- one on the rear and one on the front. Like the Android tablets, it will also include Wi-Fi and 3G connectivity.



Also this week, the company unveiled a dual-screen tablet concept dubbed the "Iconia." Rather than having a keyboard on the bottom half of the clamshell design, the device sports a second touch-panel display.

In August, the chairman of Acer predicted that Apple's iPad will eventually drop to just 20 percent of the total tablet market when competing options are introduced. He said Apple's "closed platform" iOS mobile operating system will ultimately be the downfall of the iPad.

Earlier this year, before the iPad launched to great success, Acer indicated it would not enter the tablet market, citing Apple's advantage with the iTunes ecosystem and App Store digital marketplace. Acer has become one of the top PC makers partially through the sale of low-cost, low-power netbooks.

Last quarter, Acer was the second-largest PC maker in the world, accounting for 13.1 percent of all sales. Acer's 11.5 million unit shipments were behind only HP, which sold 15.4 million PCs, good for 17.5 percent of the total worldwide market.
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I am far from being an Apple fanboy...but to first say they are not entering the tablet market and then to do so, and then to state that the closed ecosystem of the iPad will cause it to loose ground...hmmm. Wasn't the same thing said about the iPod Touch and iPhone? Why do these people make such outlandish claims. If they can do it sure, say it, but to just make this claim and then have to backpedal makes them look like idiots.

Aside from that, I would like to see a Win 7 tablet (with more than an Atom proc PLUS decent battery life) that includes stylus support. The Win 7 handwriting recognition software is very good and works well for me since I am studying Japanese and Mathematics. The iPad is simply too limited in many ways as a device for me while at university.
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Aside from that, I would like to see a Win 7 tablet.

[increduloussarcasm]Yeah, those Windows tablets were a HUGE hit in the past. No doubt they will be again. You're backing a real winner there. On a related note, GoogleTV is nothing at all like Microsoft TV. Nope, not at all. Get behind that baby, too, before it takes off!![/increduloussarcasm]
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scene from Acer and other windows computing-based copy cat companies boardrooms:

Uh, what should we come up with next?

Duh, I don't know...

Anybody got any ideas?

Hey...what's Apple creating?

Ha! That will never sell!

(fast forward six months)

We have been planning to come out with our mp3/video/cell/tablet/laptop product based on windows/xp/7/mobile/droid/etc OS for months, and we will give Apple a run for their money.

It was our idea first..... Jobs just picked up all the touch screens/flash memory/components first.


Yeah, that's the ticket!
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A tablet with a docking keyboard station is.. a laptop.
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A tablet with a docking keyboard station is.. a laptop.

Only when docked. Does your laptops screen come off?
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Yeah, those Windows tablets were a HUGE hit in the past. No doubt they will be again. You're backing a real winner there.

First, they said that about Windows 1.0 and 2.0 PCs. Never count MS out.

Second, it's pretty clear the future is gonna see a melding between the iPad and portable Macs. The iPad needs more horsepower, and should've gotten its own OS from the start.
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A tablet with a docking keyboard station is.. a laptop.

As opposed to the iPad and iPad Keyboard Dock?

Guess the iPad is really a laptop...
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Meh.....the shots at Apple is just exec-speak. They spout this stuff and just hope that investors will believe them.

I don't get the Windows 7 tablets. iOS and Android were designed for touchscreens while 7 has it tacked on. If Microsoft were smart, they would follow Apple's path and create a modified version of their Windows Phone 7 OS and market it for tablets.
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Only when docked. Does your laptops screen come off?

Yes, once on an old Dell laptop. Didn't work too well after that...
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Second, it's pretty clear the future is gonna see a melding between the iPad and portable Macs. The iPad needs more horsepower, and should've gotten its own OS from the start.

It's also pretty clear why U shouldn't be CEO of apple cuz U just haven't got it.
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First, they said that about Windows 1.0 and 2.0 PCs. Never count MS out.

Second, it's pretty clear the future is gonna see a melding between the iPad and portable Macs. The iPad needs more horsepower, and should've gotten its own OS from the start.

Couldn't disagree more. Mans first bomb wasn't the atom bomb. You develop at a level which tests the water, sees demand, watch how a device is used once in the hands of consumers and then build from there. The iPad is perfectly spec'd for it's stated purpose at Launch. It has it's own variant of OS, Apple are keen to avoid the fragmentation of android, and iOS and it's future melding with OS X is a brilliant way to achieve this.

What would you do differently with a dedicated OS for the iPad, and what would you like more horsepower from, and would this come at the expense of battery life?
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Throw enough shit at a wall and maybe some of it will stick... that's Acer's tablet strategy.

All of these Android/Win 7/Whatever tablets will have to be delivered with flawless execution. There is no way these companies can give Apple another year without condemning themselves to complete failure.

Win 7??!! Really??!! I'm waiting for the battery times. I can see Ballmer next year... "Battery times, battery times, battery times!!". As mentioned in another comment, the best strategy is probably Win 7 mobile.

Android... the iOS closed system is its downfall??!! Really??!! The frag issue will become even more prominent as the number of tablets grow. Each manufacturer will have to have its own app store.

Flawless execution guys or you will fail to even make a dent.
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here we go again! another outfit pushing another Android tablet as an ipad killer. Yawn!!!!!
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scene from Acer and other windows computing-based copy cat companies boardrooms:

Uh, what should we come up with next?

Duh, I don't know...

Anybody got any ideas?

Hey...what's Apple creating?

Ha! That will never sell!

(fast forward six months)

We have been planning to come out with our mp3/video/cell/tablet/laptop product based on windows/xp/7/mobile/droid/etc OS for months, and we will give Apple a run for their money.

It was our idea first..... Jobs just picked up all the touch screens/flash memory/components first.


Yeah, that's the ticket!

How do you think Apple comes up with their own innovation?

Staying ahead of the curve doesn't just involve some imaginary line they're always trying to catch up to. They are competing with these companies! This competition is what spurs their innovation, and without these other companies, Apple wouldn't strive for such greatness.

Yes, thank God we have Apple, but thank God it's not JUST Apple as well...
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here we go again! another outfit pushing another Android tablet as an ipad killer. Yawn!!!!!

It'll get more interesting once the other mobile operating systems catch up.
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I took a look at the videos and the write ups on the Acer Iconia. It has nothing that makes me jump at it. Its just a laptop that has dual touch screens with a keyboard that pops up when you place both hands on the bottom screen and allows typing, with a GUI that is OK. It can open two web pages on the separate screens or allows you to have more screen to view if needed. Has the ability to use Some Acer media software and their new ecosystem. But quite frankly, its a bit large, nothing as cool as the MS Courier idea could have been. The form factor looks like something from Dell. Not appealing at all. Not sure if you could use it as a book or magazine, as its really doesn't seem made for that. I don't see this as any type of threat to any one. The GUI is a bit colorful. I guess they thought that they would try something that Apple had thought about and dropped long ago.

The smaller pad/tablet is OK but again, cheap looking and in line with their market, but its just another entry into the market if you ask me. It also speaks volumes of what type of manufacturer they are. Acer just enters safely after someone else breaks open the market and then they just make a copy of a similar product very cheaply. Kind of like throw something against the wall and see if it sticks. Not very impressed with these guys.
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As opposed to the iPad and iPad Keyboard Dock?

Guess the iPad is really a laptop...

I actually like this design better than the apple solution (the keyboard dock, not the tablet design, iPad is way better). At least with this one you can place the keyboard dock comfortably on your lap when on the couch. Unlike Apple's solution. I'd still rather have the iPad, but with Android's already large marketplace of Apps, this device is the right idea to say the least.
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The iPad needs more horsepower, and should've gotten its own OS from the start.

That's what iOS is. Designed from ground up for touch screen devices without keyboards. Rather than recycling the aging OSX, Apple started fresh. Some competitors shoehorn the old Windows OS with its decades of baggage into this new class of machine. Then try as hard as they can to turn the tablet paradigm into just another laptop. Silly.
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I took a look at the videos and the write ups on the Acer Iconia. It has nothing that makes me jump at it. Its just a laptop that has dual touch screens with a keyboard that pops up when you place both hands on the bottom screen and allows typing, with a GUI that is OK. It can open two web pages on the separate screens or allows you to have more screen to view if needed. Has the ability to use Some Acer media software and their new ecosystem. But quite frankly, its a bit large, nothing as cool as the MS Courier idea could have been. The form factor looks like something from Dell. Not appealing at all. Not sure if you could use it as a book or magazine, as its really doesn't seem made for that. I don't see this as any type of threat to any one. The GUI is a bit colorful. I guess they thought that they would try something that Apple had thought about and dropped long ago.

The smaller pad/tablet is OK but again, cheap looking and in line with their market, but its just another entry into the market if you ask me. It also speaks volumes of what type of manufacturer they are. Acer just enters safely after someone else breaks open the market and then they just make a copy of a similar product very cheaply. Kind of like throw something against the wall and see if it sticks. Not very impressed with these guys.

Yeah, the problem with all these tablet wanna-be's is that Apple started a project almost ten years ago to study what kind of form factor would be the best for tablets. They tried and tested a lot of different configurations and rejected most of them. Almost certainly, years from now when it doesn't matter anymore, we will find out that Apple had a two page tablet mock-up long before courier. It's not exactly a new idea to do the two screen thing, I remember seeing drawings of the idea in 1970's magazine articles about computing and "the future."

The point is, Apple already *rejected* most of the tablet ideas that the other manufacturers are cranking out in opposition to them. It's not like Apple had a lucky hit with the iPad, it's the end result of almost a decade of research, thinking, and testing.
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If it"s cheap enough it will be a hit. If the price is close to iPad then forget it.
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These people should learn to be very careful what they predict. Anything too negative about Apple tends to come back and bite them in the ass.
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According to this article the tablets won't ship until Feb/April 2011, and they'll only be matching the specs of the CURRENT iPad? They'll be competing against the iPad2 by then.

What's the point of pre-announcing a product 5 months early that's barely comparable to what's already out there for sale today?
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Yes, thank God we have Apple, but thank God it's not JUST Apple as well...

What does he have to do with any of this?

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Yeah, the problem with all these tablet wanna-be's is that Apple started a project almost ten years ago to study what kind of form factor would be the best for tablets. They tried and tested a lot of different configurations and rejected most of them. Almost certainly, years from now when it doesn't matter anymore, we will find out that Apple had a two page tablet mock-up long before courier. It's not exactly a new idea to do the two screen thing, I remember seeing drawings of the idea in 1970's magazine articles about computing and "the future."

The point is, Apple already *rejected* most of the tablet ideas that the other manufacturers are cranking out in opposition to them. It's not like Apple had a lucky hit with the iPad, it's the end result of almost a decade of research, thinking, and testing.

Exactly. I'd also add that innovating must be a hell of a lot more exciting than copying. I suspect the iPad team are very motivated and happy. These feelings show in their work. Spending all day trying to get as close as possible to another product must be pretty miserable and that shows too.
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I don't know why they are announcing an Android tablet scheduled to ship in April now. Perhaps this is the only time they felt it would generate a buzz. In April, the iPad 2 will be out and many Android tablets will likely beat this to the market.
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First, they said that about Windows 1.0 and 2.0 PCs. Never count MS out.

Things have changed dramatically since then and MS doesn't have an dominant company like iBM to carry them in the handheld market.

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Second, it's pretty clear the future is gonna see a melding between the iPad and portable Macs. The iPad needs more horsepower, and should've gotten its own OS from the start.

There will be some "melding" only in the sense that some advantages of multi-touch on iPad will be brought over to the next OS X like they showed in the Back to Mac keynote, but that's about it.

Not sure why you think the iPad needs "more power". It is a very quick responsive device.
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Second, it's pretty clear the future is gonna see a melding between the iPad and portable Macs. The iPad needs more horsepower, and should've gotten its own OS from the start.

Do you care to explain in what way the OS it has is limiting to the iPad?
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According to this article the tablets won't ship until Feb/April 2011, and they'll only be matching the specs of the CURRENT iPad? They'll be competing against the iPad2 by then.

What's the point of pre-announcing a product 5 months early that's barely comparable to what's already out there for sale today?

Trying to kill iPad sales over Christmas would be my bet. Remember how many trolls here were saying they would not buy the iPad at launch as the Courier was just around the corner? The anti-Apple or about to convert to Apple types are their targets with this IMO.

As you say they will be up against Mk II iPad by the release not to mention all the other clones ... all eating each other's lunch.
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post #31 of 170
HEre's my question.

If Apple adds Flash to MobileSafari, will all the rest of these guys have ANYTHING to advertise?

I think they will essentially just give up at that point.

Both Blackberry, and the Android makers are depending on Flash as the lone differentiating factor.
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How do you think Apple comes up with their own innovation?

Staying ahead of the curve doesn't just involve some imaginary line they're always trying to catch up to. They are competing with these companies! This competition is what spurs their innovation, and without these other companies, Apple wouldn't strive for such greatness.

Yes, thank God we have Apple, but thank God it's not JUST Apple as well...

Historically, Apple has not to compete with anyone but themselves? Everyone has copied Apple from Microsoft to Google, and they have always reversed engineered Apple's previous offerings with lower UI standards,half-assed quality, and even more laughable User Experience. They never get it right, and they do not get it. I wager no can, or has EVER given apple ANY competition since OS 9. Apple does their own thing, they march to the beat of their own drum. Everyone else scrambles to copy and throw their poor offerings hoping to ride the wave. The delusional CEOs say they will over take Apple in quality and experience. The only company that has more experience in personal computer that sells wares to consumers is Microsoft and Dell. The problem there is their CEO's Michael and Steve. They are flip-flopping about Apple's devices while sprinting to reverse engineer their own. Hell even Microsoft rushed the Slate and the name to "get" Apple, yet it's still not OUT! Cause once the iPad came out, they had to completely retool it.

And you think ACER, really, ACER the bargain bin PC maker is even going to even be able to product a quality product worth even a quarter of apple's build? they make plastic boxes. No wonder there is no video of this devices, they are too sad to show live.
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First, they said that about Windows 1.0 and 2.0 PCs. Never count MS out.

Second, it's pretty clear the future is gonna see a melding between the iPad and portable Macs. The iPad needs more horsepower, and should've gotten its own OS from the start.

the OS was INTENDED/DESIGNED for a TABLET the WHOLE TIME...then once jobs saw it said it would be good as a phone OS also... and TADA!!!!

you think that a tablet that has been in the works since the days of the newton pad has not been tried over and over again with a full-blown OS to a bare minimal OS, and tested, tested and then tested even more then finding the median?
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Trying to kill iPad sales over Christmas would be my bet. Remember how many trolls here were saying they would not buy the iPad at launch as the Courier was just around the corner? The anti-Apple or about to convert to Apple types are their targets with this IMO.

As you say they will be up against Mk II iPad by the release not to mention all the other clones ... all eating each other's lunch.

Hmm. Although the 10" model may be an attempt do this, I think they are just as much trying to put down a marker with the-already-against-Apple-because-they-use-Android-phones types

i.e. to those whose only option at present is a Samsung Galaxy Tab, they are saying 'Hey, there is an alternative on the way'.

For all their talk of competing with the iPad, these 2nd tier cloners have to have just as much of an eye on competing with each other.
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Just more fail to add to the pile. The competition so far has been brutally lame. These are no exception.
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Trying to kill iPad sales over Christmas would be my bet. Remember how many trolls here were saying they would not buy the iPad at launch as the Courier was just around the corner?

Kind of a long shot though. Are they really expecting people to postpone their xmas gift giving?

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" . . . will have . . . will ship . . . will . . . should . . . might . . . ought to . . . plans to . . . uh . . . could . . . uh . . .

Once again, and at the risk of repeating myself . . . This is all vaporware! V-A-P-O-R-W-A-R-E! This is little more than pie-in-the-sky. Potemkin Villages! Cardboard and dreams! These devices WILL be able to do anything, right? Change your oil, babysit your children, pay your taxes. In short . . . EVERYTHING!

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" . . . will have . . . will ship . . . will . . . should . . . might . . . ought to . . . plans to . . . uh . . . could . . . uh . . .

Once again, and at the risk of repeating myself . . . This is all vaporware! V-A-P-O-R-W-A-R-E! This is little more than pie-in-the-sky. Potemkin Villages! Cardboard and dreams! These devices WILL be able to do anything, right? Change your oil, babysit your children, pay your taxes. In short . . . EVERYTHING!

Promises are made of platinum, ladies and gentlemen. It's reality that's made of iron (and, of course aluminum). I'll live with genuine, shipping products and not phantomware!

If it does my dishes... I'm in!!
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post #39 of 170
"hedging its bets in the fight for tablet supremacy"

What is "supremacy" worth without the margins and profits to go with it? That's what I don't understand about the market share argument. Even Fake Steve Jobs (Dan Lyons) stated the obvious a few months ago. To paraphrase FSJ "In 3 years Android will dominate in market share but we (Apple) will have the better business."
post #40 of 170
Silly Acer!, people who use real technology don't want tablets!

Let Apple produce its latest fad for the sheep.
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